OT: Manning HGH Controversy Deepens; Sly was Indeed Employed in 2011

Submitted by BornSinner on

Many ESPN reporters, ie Mort, instantly "debunked" Al-Jazeera's source Charlie Sly as an intern in 2013 instead of 2011 when Manning was receiving neck treatment from the Guyer Institute. 

Well, after all the scrutiny Al-Jazeera's Deborah Davies just released a video containing a verification call to the Guyer Institute a month ago to confirm that Sly was indeed employed for 3 months after October 17th, 2011. 

This goes directly against Dr. Guyer's statement saying that Sly was employed in 2013.

Oh snap. (Inserts popcorn.gif here) 

 

RobM_24

December 29th, 2015 at 1:17 AM ^

Manning seemed a little disheveled in his interview. Maybe just bc he was in the middle of a workout. I was surprised he talked as aggressively as he did. I thought he'd just be his usual, calm self and just say "gee, shucks, that's silly, darn it." But he came out swinging, which seemed out of character.

wolverine1987

December 29th, 2015 at 9:20 AM ^

Have people missed the fact that Sly has already said that the deliveries never happened? There is no story. It doesn't rest on whether he was employed, it rested only on him saying a delivery went to Payton's house--now he says that never happened and that he was testing the reporter. Story over. 

Not to mention, Al Jazeera has ZERO credibility as a news organization.

aratman

December 29th, 2015 at 10:08 AM ^

Have you watched it?  Al Jazeera America seems to be pretty middle of the road news source the times I have watched it.  They seem to break stories that others would not.  Why they did this report I don't know.  The times I have watched it to see what other places are saying about the news, it seemed pretty good. 

wolverine1987

December 29th, 2015 at 12:34 PM ^

Several of their own journalists have quit because they slant the coverage while claiming objectivity. And please, no Fox News rejoinders--there are no ex-Fox people, nor ex-CBS/NBC/ABC journalists who claim the same. Al Jeezera exists to influence on behalf of a specific objective--that's fine as long as you state that.

wolverine1987

December 30th, 2015 at 8:15 AM ^

you saw this post and instantly assumed something about my political beliefs, (maybe because said the word Fox) and news watching? Just a guess. You'd likely be wrong, but stereotypes and snap assumptions are powerful temptations, especially on the internet. 

BVB1

December 29th, 2015 at 9:19 AM ^

Or you're angry because of baseless allegations. I'm not taking a side in this debate yet, but for a site that has questioned journalistic integrity/story breaking (re: Harbaugh hiring), it sure seems like a lot of people on this site are quick to jump on the Al Jazzeera train even in the face of a source recanting his statements.

BornSinner

December 29th, 2015 at 9:32 AM ^

Dude recanting because he feels the pressure and scrutiny after telling the truth of his operations to undercover athletes (and his employer unknowingly confirming Al-Jazeera's report of his employment) 

or... 

Dude completely fabricating things for shits and giggles unknowingly for some reason while his former employer changes their tune on his employment when the cameras are rolling. 

I'm more inclined to believe someone tells the truth when the spotlight isn't on him and Guyer is lying their ass off to save their illegal operation. 

Then again.. crazier things have happened. Who knows. 

BVB1

December 29th, 2015 at 9:42 AM ^

The fact that I said to wait to believe the story of a questionable news agency who's source has recanted his story is grounds for multiple downvotes? Are people really that bad at reading comprehension or just that douchey? Given that "breaking" a story has become more important to "journalists" these days than accuracy, I just find it hard to believe an expose that's key source has recanted.

BVB1

December 29th, 2015 at 9:50 AM ^

Hah, sorry to whine about the points. And I'm not defending Peyton here because like everybody else I have no idea. And I get how past revelations have proven to be true with some other athletes (Lance Armstrong). I'm just not willing to buy the story with the source going back on it, though I can see your point about him having second thoughts for other reasons, too. Either way, the truth will likely come out eventually as we have seen in other PED cases.

BornSinner

December 29th, 2015 at 2:35 AM ^

HGH was still a banned substance. This is known because in 2007 Rodney Harrison was suspended for 4 games after being caught by the Feds for knowingly buying HGH due to injury. 

Thus Manning using HGH would still be illegal according to NFL rules. 

Mi Sooner

December 29th, 2015 at 8:31 AM ^

The deflated football story was NFL sponsored. So it was more than okay to report every detail that the league leaked through the 'independent' journalist. This story isn't NFL sanctioned and therefore isn't okay to 'investigate'.

blueinbeantown

December 29th, 2015 at 9:22 AM ^

The NFL and their lackies at ESPN and SI (that's you Peter King) better look into this with the same Gestapo - Jihad like tactics that they've used against Brady for Deflategate.  2011, still with Indy, probably getting a little somethin somethin from Jimmy (thanks Dad) Irsay's suppliers.