OT: Man U v Man City -- WHO YOU GOT?
Nice try Fox Soccer Network marketing guy
But seriously, go Man U.
Go Blue. ManU reminds me of the Yankees anyhow.
Man City would be the closest to resembling the Yankees. They recently have rich owners who outbid every other team for good players. Man U has much more homegrown talent.
Perhaps I am mistaken, but I will always root for blue over red (except for the Red Wings).
If Michigan ever trotted out in Man City blue, Brian would combust.
Man U has a longer history as a power. Man City is more like the University of Oregon. Was a fairly generic team, now an uber-rich dude is pouring money into the program, suddenly trendy in the last few years, and seeing success.
True. I met a guy from Manchester on a cruise in 2002 who was a big City fan. I'm not sure that they were even in the EPL at the time. He was careful to explain to me, an American, that there were actually 2 Manchester teams, and that City was not United. I knew this, but I was impressed by his (justifiable at the time) inferiority complex versus United.
I know I am, I'm sure I am I'm West Ham till I die
I pass on EPL soccer. Its more like grass hockey than soccer, if you ask me (which you didn't). The better question is who do you have in the two Champions League games today (Barcelona vs. Chelsea) and tomorrow (Real Madrid vs. Bayern Munich)??
P.S. I'm pretty sure that the Barcelona-Real Madrid clasico last weekend will end up being much more highly viewed than ManU-ManCity.
Barca today, Real Madrid tomorrow.
Barca did not get any bounces their way last game and Chelsea got their goal on the only shot they took.
And Real Madrid looked like the best team in the world the other day when they beat Barca.
Agree and agree. I'd love to see two more clasicos, if only because the last one was so frustrating to watch as a Barca fan (even though it was clear that El Blancos dominated that game).
What would the second clasico be? Barca and Real have played both their Primera games and the Copa del Rey final is Barca v. Bilbao. I don't think there's anything left but the final of the champions league.
I forgot that the final is one-and-done. I was thinking it was still a home-and-home. My bad.
I have Real and Barca advancing, but both need to play a lot better, especially Barca. They have looked bad the last two games. Tello sucks, they really need an upgrade at his position in the offseason.
I have no idea why Guardiola kept Tello in as long as he did against Real. He was getting in dangerous positions but it was clear from pretty early on that the moment was too big for him. He did help create the Barca goal, but he squandered at least a half dozen other good opportunities, and I have to believe that either Sanchez, Pedro, or Cesc if he didn't want as much speed, would have done better with the opportunities.
I agree. Tello is clearly a talent but he needs to work on his game. He tries to rely on his speed to get to the line and it just doesn't work against superior defenses. On the other hand, I'm a huge fan of Cuenca and his play on the right wing. He just seems to create opportunities game in and game out. I'm glad he's starting today. I also like Cesc's vision. He definitely should have started.
Weren't you the one who was looking for a soccer team to cheer for just a few months ago? Did you become a hardcore fan that fast?
Tello rarely starts, and they don't need to replace him seeing as they have Villa coming back next year (leg is currently broken). They really missed his finishing today against Chelsea. He's their best finisher and one of the only true strikers on the team. He's usually deployed on the left side of their three man front where Tello was for the Real game (although he was more of a number 9 at valencia).
Hoping for Chelsea-Bayern, and I believe Bayern is the more likely of the two to advance. Chelsea played great tactically at Stamford Bridge, but Barca showed very little. They miss David Villa. I do think Messi will have a better game at the Nou Camp though. I guess we'll find out later today.
Don't trust City.
Real lost to Bayern last week, a 'tie' gets them diddly poo
take "Soccer sucks" for $200 Alex.
If UFC talk is unwelcome on the board I hereby give soccer the double unwelcome
Eh, who cares.
You either have the EPL's Yankees or some Nouveau riche club that spent it's way to success. Either way rooting for one of them means you lose your soul.
If Utd lose this I will cry. SEriously, how do you give up 2 goals in the last 10 minutes to Everton.
I absolutely despise Ballotelli. Mancini should be fined if he lets that thug play.
(And if I'm a flamer for disliking Ballotelli, so be it. Whoever negged me knows that he's a thug and there's no place for him in the EPL.)
Please provide examples of his thuggery. I'd like to know them since I'm not very up to date on the EPL.
In short, he does score goals but he also runs around kicking opponents for fun and is currently serving a 3-game suspension (after his 3rd red card of the season).
Balotelli is not a thug, an immature idiot, yes, but not a thug. Anyway, the only way he plays is as a sub. Tevez is back to beast mode. Say what you want about Tevez off the field, on the field he always gives his all.
Immaturity is retaliating to a hard foul with a harder foul because you can't contain your emotions.
Thuggery is going after players with an intent to injure for no real reason, which is exactly what he did against Arsenal.
Either way, he's a disgrace. He's the Ron Artest, Gilbert Arenas type: Tons of talent, will never realize his potential.
Immature idiot or thug is just semantics. Ballotelli does things on the field that are likely to seriously injury opposing players (see Gholston's punch on Lewan, for a good football example). It should not be allowed on the pitch and Man City would be wise to divorce themselves from a player like him.
I've got no problems with Tevez.
I think the home game will help city. I am hoping a motivated and calm Mario shows up to add a spark off the bench. City may fold against Newcastle away but I think they win the Manchester derby.
Don't care -- My guys at Borussia Dortmund just clinched the Bundesliga and they have a shot at the double with the German Cup final in May.
I really hope Chelsea goes after Kagawa.
So I'll go with United 2- City 1. Wayne Rooney gets one.
Rooooney and Man U
Both can burn.
As a fellow Spurs fan, our season is starting to feel like Michigan 2009. Here's hoping we can pull it together next year under a new manager.
Agreed. I feel like we are on a one way street to the Europa League sans Redknapp, Bale and Modric. Fun times for all. Whatever, COYS!
Newcastle Newcastle Newcastle! Champions League here we come
better hope Chelsea lose to Bayern/Real. Cuz if they win the CL final, they take your spot next year.
Or, you have to catch Arsenal... meaning, beating City. Not holding my breath that happens, but most soccer fans without a dog in the fight are probably rooting for Newcastle, being the out-of-the-ordinary team here.
I got City. This time I'll be pulling for little brother. They haven't won the EPL since the 60s.
Could never root for a team whose primary color is red. Go City!
But they always try to walk it in.
i dont have 100 pts yet, but the Michigan band is going to Dallas now
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Man City just sealed my Wolves' relegation (it would've happened the next week if not this past weekend anyways).
But I hate both teams. People think the Yankees buy success......watch some Euro footy. It's depressing for a club like mine that does things correct from a business standpoint (doesn't really matter for many of these clubs that finish in the red because their owners can just make up for the losses through their outside investments and corporations and whatever other assets they have). Oh well. I will probably watch but have no rooting interest.
I was a big fan of Mick McCarthy and was sad to see him go.
As an Arsenal fan, our plight is not as bad, but it is frustrating to see other teams leapfrog the gunners in terms of talent when Arsene and the board consistently post operating and transfer profits each year by developing young talent and producing quality sides.
Mick is one of the biggest reasons why I became a Wolves fan. I started following them the year after he was fired. I think he stands for the right things, but I also think he deserved to be let go. Our front office just completely botch the timing. No manager was going to want to come here with 13 matches to save us from relegation and the transfer window closed. I would have rather had kept him on til the end of the season and let him go afterwards. We'd probably still have a fighting chance to stay up if he were still here.
Gloria glory Manutd, glory glory manutd and the reds go marching up up up!
I have gotten into soccer over the last few years, and I have always liked the Blues from Man City. Now that they have the capitol, they are real good. I have to go with my boys next monday. Man c have been virtually unbeatable at the etihad, but the stakes are the highest ever for the darby. Man U clearly knows how the big game atmosphere is and will bring it, but City has some great experience on their side also. Man C 4-2.
when i was living in spain i befriended a northern irish man who , because of his thick accent, kept saying his favorite team was "serie". not wanting to show ignorance (and not having a clue what team he was referring to) i went along with his favorite team as "serie" for weeks until i realized he meant "city" as in manchester city.
so long story short, i will be rooting for city, as well as barcelona.
does anyone have a barca link that i could watch at work? dont know if its on epsn3 but our internet here has that channel blocked anyway.
I have the same work internets problem. All of the streaming sites are blocked for me. I do know that the game is on Fox Soccer but its also on some other overseas channels. Maybe one of them have a live stream?
frontrowsports.eu worked for me last week, but I had to cycle through a bunch of the streams to find one that worked. Use at your own risk, virus and popup wise too.
I think it will be a draw. And United will be lucky if they draw.
They have been in awful form as of late. The Everton collapse very reminiscent of their early-season struggles.
Carrick is a decent defensive midfielder, both him and Scholes are ok as passers, but neither have enough creativity or speed to be a true attacking threat from the midfield that United desperately needs. Giggs is good as a pinch hitter. Young/Nani/Valencia obviously have the wings covered, but teams have been overloading the wings and daring United to attack from the middle.
Cleverly showed flashes before he got injured early in the season.
Eden Hazard, Luka Modric, Wes Schneider, in that order, are all needed playmakers @ midfield for United in the offseason, 20 times champions or not.
If United got two of those midfielders next year, wow, they will be incredible. I picked up Hazard for cheap in Fifa 12 and he is incredible in the third year of my manager stint. Love Fifa 12, I can play 4 games in the time it would take to play 1 NCAA 12 game.
Their fanbase is insufferable, but all things considered, they're an admirable team to root for. Much like the Red Wings, everyone hates their success, but their roster is mostly built through youth and their academy is outstanding.
As much as I love City's jerseys and their new ownership doing whatever it takes to build a winner, they're a jumbled mess of an All-Star team that can click occasionally(like their 6-1 thrashing of Man U earlier), or be the sideshow they've been the past few months. David Silva and Samir Nasri are two of the best players in the world - they've both tailed off dramatically the past month or so(especially Silva). Dropping Balotelli was smart, and it opens the door to the real wild card next week - Tevez. If he's truly back in form, then Ferdinand and the boys are going to have their hands full on defense.
I still say Man U wins, but I'm not against watching some City magic. Honestly, next season can't come soon enough - English football has been embarrassing this year, but I believe Arsenal is destined for greatness next season. Hopefully changes at Liverpool and Chelsea will bring the league to prominence. Right now its one good team(ManU), one really good team that's also really bad(City), and those lovable Magpies lurking around. Meh.
I root against both, but I have much more respect for Man U as an organization than for City. I suppose I'd rather see City win one title for their long-term fans who supported them before they started throwing gobs of cash around. Man U has won enough titles.
I can't sympathize with a club that is hundreds of millions of dollars in debt because of reckless spending. Not that Man City is better in that regard. I don't care for either one.
I'm still waiting for my Man U tickets. Surely, we got an ownership stake in the team since we bailed the heck out of AIG. Right?!?!
you can't buy history
I can't imagine a world where United has a three point lead over City with 3 games left and doesn't finish the job.
Much like Chelsea last year, they'll pull out a victory, ensuring the 20th title in club history, two more than Littlepool. And once again, they'll do it with a team that, while more expensive than most, is an actual team, not a collection of auction items.
Looking forward to another run in Europe? Oh wait, mid-table teams aren't eligible.
Oh well, can always wait for Suarez to drop more racist slurs and get another lengthy ban.
Since you just said Europe and didn't specify the Champions league, you should have known that Liverpool is already in the Europa league by virtue of winning the Carling cup.
Of course, following United, we don't have to worry about getting into the 2nd tier European tournament by winning the 4th-most important title a BPL team can play for.
I guess it's an honor for a mid-tier team though. Are you upset that the other half of the Merseyside Derby are above you?
but I see this ending in a draw or City win. Perhaps it is just because I can't get that 6-1 drubbing out of my head, I don't know. I will be rooting ofr Man U, but this will be a tough one to call.
Eu quero Brasil! Sempre!
If you're not a Manc you're a wank!
Holy cow, Chelsea beat Barca
Ahahahahhahahahha Barca fans!
Torres put the nail in the coffin.....Torres!
(Yes, a United fan still butthurt after 2011, 2009)
Also, I hate how people call us the Yankees. Since Ronaldo left, we haven't used that money. We haven't bought any insane purchase in years. Alot of our talent is home grown. I would actually say the Red Wings are a great comparision. Long history of winng, lots of talent from the farm, normally willing to spend if needed (but not crazy like city), but not spending as of late (see the $5 mill the wings didnt use this year).
City is a bunch of hired guns.
Sir Alex finds away.
Glory, Glory, Man United. Time for 21.
(note: someone will complian about my use of we, I don't care)
1) Ashley Young. Yes he flops, but he is a great presence on the wing, has scored some killer goals, and bring an added dimension off set pieces
2) Phil Jones. Brings versatility as either a defensive midfielder or in the central defense.
3) Da Gea. Goalkeeper of the future...as soon as he settles the f*ck down.
4) Chris Smalling. Again, versatile defender, will probably be taking over Ferdinand's shoes.
That, with other odds and ends, accounts for the 80 million pound transfer fee for Ronaldo.
fuck chelsea, i would have rather barca won
Barca is full of a bunch of whiny cry babies who are so full of themselves. I'd root for anyone over Barca (and I'm a Chelsea fan).
Blue is the color!
As an Oasis fan who otherwise doesn't care, I am obligated to pick Man City.
Sunderland fan here.
Ha'Way The Lads.
I thought that was a Newcastle phrase...
I have been trying to find a ticket but no luck even with online brokers. Anyone have any suggestions?
Offer a lobe of your liver as a trade.
Never heard of this site, don't know if they are reliable, but you will have to pay 720 pounds per ticket
Not going to make a prediction on Monday itself, but I'm almost postive City won't win the league. Doubt they take three at Newcastle and against United.
But, allow me to offer a defense of City's Arab oil money spending spree. The EPL was created as a selfish money grab by the top clubs who wanted to kick less money down the pyramid. Then money was consolidated again when the Champion's League was expanded and the top four teams got a huge chunk of money no one else got a share of. If you weren't a powerful club when these two changes happened, you were left behind. Look at the list of EPL champions, Manchester United, Arsenal, Chelsea, and Blackburn are the only teams to win it in twenty years. United and Arsenal were among the historic powerhouses who created the new financial system and are both coached by the best managers of the premier league era. Blackburn and Chelsea took the City approach of being bought by a rich guy who pumped a ton of cash into the team. Unfortunately, that's the only way for a team to go from midtable to contenders. Don't blame City, blame the system.
And what's with the United homegrown players thing I read a couple times in this thread? Giggs, Scholes, Welbeck, and Evans are the only academy products contributing at all this season. More than City, but it's not a lot.