OT: Man in FBI custody for spraying rat poison on produce in Ann Arbor grocery stores.

Submitted by WackoWolverine on

http://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/index.ssf/2016/05/fbi_man_sprayed_mouse_poison_m_1.html

Maybe throw away any produce you got from Meijer (AA-Saline Rd.), Whole Foods, and Plum Market?

Luckily this sicko was too stupid to do any real harm and was using a diluted mixure that was primarily Warfarin (a blood thinner medication for people, but a rat poison at higher [C].) The FBI believes everyone should be fine.

 

Perkis-Size Me

May 4th, 2016 at 7:57 AM ^

I really hope, for your sake, you're just some punk 13 year old kid who thinks he's a badass by coming onto a rival board and talking a bunch of shit. At least then your shenanigans are somewhat understandable.

If you're a grown man and just have nothing better to do with your time than wake up early every morning and troll Michigan boards, well then I guess that's your lot in life. A pretty sad one, but hey, you keep doing you, my friend.



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WackoWolverine

May 3rd, 2016 at 11:15 PM ^

(luckily?) I recieved my biochem degree from Michigan so I would never be so foolish as to poison with diluted Warfarin... unless I was a cardiologist hell bent on combating blood clots.

No... I would mix Arby's horsey sauce with Flint tap water if I wanted to do such a despicable thing.

wolpherine2000

May 4th, 2016 at 12:06 AM ^

...of anticoagulant rodenticides has a demonstrated negative impact on predators, children and pets.  Unfortunately, the EPA's move to pull the DCon product wasn't because they use anticoagulants (those are regrettably still quite common), but because DCon's weren't sufficiently resistant to tampering and unintended opening... by children or pets.  I don't feel bad for DCon, and I don't blame tbose awful government bureaucrats.

FLwolvfan22

May 4th, 2016 at 8:34 AM ^

Rats and rodents can spread diseases that can kill millions in an epidemic and the gummint' removed the most effective product on the market to kill them.

That's a bigger toll  than a few kids (with irresponsible parents) with an upset tummy and wood owls poisoned by eating the rodents. What they left on the market were poisons with neurotoxins which are MUCH more dangerous for kids to ingest. 

Where else have we heard "it's for the kids" lately? Oh, that's right from the SEC.

By the way I have first hand experience using the poisons, here in Florida there are roof or aka fruit rats that rarely go to the ground like other rats, they climb along wires, trees, roofs and get into your attic where they make a home, you ideally want to poison them out in your garage or away from the house thus keeping the population in your area of the neighborhood down which is the best you can hope for. The docm product worked great and I found the carcassas and no other unintended animals ate the product.

pescadero

May 4th, 2016 at 11:00 AM ^

"Rats and rodents can spread diseases that can kill millions in an epidemic"

 

Yes.

 

"and the gummint' removed the most effective product on the market to kill them."

 

No, the government banned SOME of ONE companies poisons due to packaging issues. A hundred other companies still sell the exact same type (warfarin) based poisons.

The D-Con banned products were NOT second-gen anti-coagulants.

This is like banning Kraft cheddar cheese in 1 lb blocks- you can still get cheese, you can still get cheddar cheese, and you can even still get Kraft cheddar cheese... you just can't buy one particular packaging variant any longer.


Plus, there is no objective evidence that second-gen anticoagulants really work any better than first-gen.

 

FLwolvfan22

May 4th, 2016 at 12:54 PM ^

READiLY AVAILABLE product on the market to kill the rats. This is a fact. This product was available in this area I live (which has and will ever have a roof rat problem as long as people live here) at WalMart, Home Depot, Lowes, basically any home store. The other poisons available at these stores are INEFFECTIVE based on user reviews and feedback in my area.

The Dcon was HIGHLY effective based on my own usage (many dead rats) and the multiple user reviews on WalMart, Home Depot, Amazon, etc.

They have banned 1 lb Kraft Chedder Cheese and left swiss and gouda. Gummint needs to stop interfering and potentially causing disease outbreaks.

pescadero

May 4th, 2016 at 2:52 PM ^

"Let me clarify, the government removed the most effective and READiLY AVAILABLE product on the market to kill the rats."

 

Nope.

 

They banned several D-Con rat poisons that used warfarin.

 

They didn't ban ALL D-Con rat poison that uses warfarin.

 

They didn't ban dozens of other companies poisons that use warfarin.

 

"The 12 d-CON products being canceled do not meet EPA’s current safety standards. All 12 of the products are sold without a protective bait station. Bait stations are required for consumer products to protect children and pets from contact with bait pellets."

wolpherine2000

May 4th, 2016 at 8:57 PM ^

There's been some very misleading information spread around on this issue.  Most of the time, rodenticides and traps are ineffective anyway - if you want to solve pest issues you have to deal with the reasons that they are there in the first place, which are usually poor sanitation practices. Rodenticides have their place, but only as a last resort - they are worthless until after you've removed the overflowing dumpster that is attracting vermin to begin with.

LSAClassOf2000

May 3rd, 2016 at 11:17 PM ^

Definitely good to hear that they have someone in custody for this - stories like this unease me a bit because it is quite frankly frightening to think that there is someone out there who would potentially cause harm to people that they didn't even know, never mind cared about. The lack of humanity in such an act makes me shudder, though I often wonder what the motives are for acts like this.

WackoWolverine

May 3rd, 2016 at 11:23 PM ^

This is what got me as well in this case. He was obviously trying to do harm, picked up a box of rodenticide, mixed in some water and was spraying it at multiple grocery stores.

That kind of unhinged psychopathy is genuinely frightening. I am relieved he was also an unintelligent lunatic.

mgokev

May 4th, 2016 at 7:58 AM ^

It used to be the case that police had a small sphere of individuals to investigate when researching homicides (and attempts) because it's typically done by people you know. 

Unfortunately, there has been a rise in instances where complete strangers are killing others, seemingly for sport or thrill, with no connection between the assailant and victim. This was recently discussed back in January when an individual in Tulsa posted to the Craigslist Personals, which is being investigated by police and believed to be associated with an actual homicide (not a prank). 

club_med

May 4th, 2016 at 4:29 PM ^

 

Unfortunately, there has been a rise in instances where complete strangers are killing others, seemingly for sport or thrill, with no connection between the assailant and victim. This was recently discussed back in January when an individual in Tulsa posted to the Craigslist Personals, which is being investigated by police and believed to be associated with an actual homicide (not a prank).

Looking at the FBI's Crime in the United States reports over the last 10 years, I don't think its the case that the rate of unrelated murders has increased, at least not according to the FBI's data. If anything, it looks like its decreasing.

Year Total Victims Stranger Unknown Stranger% Unknown%
2014 11961 1381 5440 11.5% 45.5%
2013 12253 1281 5572 10.5% 45.5%
2012 12765 1557 5757 12.2% 45.1%
2011 12664 1481 5588 11.7% 44.1%
2010 12996 1615 5724 12.4% 44.0%
2009 13636 1676 5986 12.3% 43.9%
2008 14180 1742 6268 12.3% 44.2%
2007 14831 1924 6848 13.0% 46.2%
2006 14990 1905 6750 12.7% 45.0%
2005 14860 2070 6724 13.9% 45.2%

 

FLwolvfan22

May 3rd, 2016 at 11:28 PM ^

Picures show a hipster/trendy cool guy.. just a headin' on over to Whole Foods to sprinkle his little bottle of poison on everyone's food. He should be made to eat it himself.