julesh

April 23rd, 2015 at 11:09 AM ^

Without doubt, and only vaguely related to football. If fall semester is actually canceled and NCAA has to decide if LSU players are ineligible, then it might possibly have SOME football related discussion. As is, it's just going to be completely partisan.

MadLandoGOBlue

April 23rd, 2015 at 11:30 AM ^

I would say this comment is absolutely ridiculous on a blog with constant tigers, lions and red wings updates. Unless you meant to say the state of michigan related, cause otherwise there is a lot of non-michigan sports news on this site. I just don't click it as I could not care less about those teams, but one could argue that just because the university is in michigan, does not make the pro sports teams relevant to this site.

Yostbound and Down

April 23rd, 2015 at 11:14 AM ^

The UNC scandal was exclusive to the athletic program though, this potentially screws the entire university. It's political because of how the school is funded, where that funding fits into the state's entire budget, how the rest of the budget is spent, etc. The UNC scandal was pretty much cut and dry as "this is not a good thing"

Yostbound and Down

April 23rd, 2015 at 11:33 AM ^

OK, correct, that's a better way to put it. But it was an athletic scandal at its heart because those were the only beneficiaries...the school wasn't fudging grades for random econ or lit majors. We know where the blame lies generally and why it happened.

With this there is going to be blame cast on various sides, hence the politics. Hopefully it stays civil.

The Mad Hatter

April 23rd, 2015 at 12:16 PM ^

does not accept underqualified in-state students.  Unless they're athletes.

My daughter is a sophmore in HS with an overall 3.8 gpa and a pretty tough schedule.  The college admissions advisor told us that she needs to get that up to a 4.0 next year and get a 30+ on the ACT.  Otherwise it's off to Moo U for her.

In 1995, you could walk right into A2 with a 30 ACT and about a 3.6 gpa.

chunkums

April 23rd, 2015 at 3:11 PM ^

GVSU is a good school (and it's where I got my Masters) but the amount of abuse members of this board give to MSU is a bit extreme. It's a strong university. It's not elite all around like UM, but is a solid academic institution with several elite programs. 

rainingmaize

April 23rd, 2015 at 3:21 PM ^

MSU is a solid school, and you could probably establish a solid future by graduating from there (assuming you don't Sparty to much and wash out). However, it can be in some students best interest to be a big fish in a smaller pond rather than being just one of 50,000+ students.



also Laker for a Lifetime.

The Mad Hatter

April 23rd, 2015 at 3:43 PM ^

If she doesn't get into Michigan it'll probably be Wayne or OU for her.  She wants an art history degree (I know, I know, but she won't listen), and I guess they have decent programs for that major.  She plans on living at home during college and all three are within commuting range.

Hail-Storm

April 23rd, 2015 at 5:07 PM ^

I personally was set to go to State if I didn't get into Michigan and it'd be great if my kids could also attend Michigan, I'm not going to stress if they don't for a variety of reasons.

In regards to commuting, I fully understand the cost benefit with crazy tuition hikes, but I am very appriciative that it was affordable enough for me to live at college (I think my tuition and R&B were almost half the cost now and that is only 17 years). College is a very soft landing spot for transitioning to the real world and living on your own.  It made my transition a lot easier having lived in dorms, to housing with friends, to my own apartment and own bills when I graduated.  

Also, both my parents and my grandparents on one side were art majors of one kind or another and all were successful. HS Art teacher, inventor/ designers so don't fret too much.  

Mr Miggle

April 23rd, 2015 at 11:22 AM ^

but if fall classes were cancelled that would be the biggest university news story of my lifetime. The NCAA would make all of their athletes able to freely transfer and be immediately eligible. It woulld amount to a self imposed death penalty in all sports.

I don't see how any of the discussion needs to be partisan. That's the type of scenario that practically no politician would risk. 

Coach Carr Camp

April 23rd, 2015 at 11:27 AM ^

Maybe I'm missing something, but where do you see that there may not be a school? I assume bankruptcy for a university is like that of a large company; it does not mean they shut the doors immediately. They would likely restructure a lot of their debts in order to provide a fresh start until they can figure out a long term plan.  

Danwillhor

April 23rd, 2015 at 1:12 PM ^

if their athletic department surplus would be a factor? Assume they file & a school like Southern has done this before, right? Ok, could the difference be that in the hearing their AD surplus (I'd have to assume LSU football puts them in the block alone) is questioned & possibly forced to be a factor? I really don't know how to word this. Um...ok, Southern very likely runs red in athletics. So, that's like no income to have an arbitrator/judge question & insist be a factor in paying off debt. Could LSU be forced to scale back their AD in a bankruptcy? I'd assume it would be very insulting (unless Southern football insanity overrides it) to say you can't pay your debts but have an athletic money printing machine. Right? lol

m1jjb00

April 23rd, 2015 at 3:31 PM ^

I would assume the answer to your question follows directly from the answer to this question: How good are the corporate lawyers?  Solid enough, and they can burn benjamins to light scoreboard.  Less than solid, and pension funds will be saying, yeah and we'll sell the waterfalls or what other nonesense they have in the lockerrooms. Of course, that's not happening tomorrow.

white_pony_rocks

April 23rd, 2015 at 11:08 AM ^

the chancellor saying they would never be able to get more faculty if they pursue exigency is bullshit, everything I've read is how there is a glut of people with Ph.Ds who want to become professor and not nearly enough open positions. yeah, you might not get the best candidates but you would still be able to exist as a university

sdogg1m

April 23rd, 2015 at 11:09 AM ^

Why does it have to be political?

Quite simply when X expenses exceeds Y income then you have to make cuts. If you aren't able the make cuts quickly enough then bankruptcy is your only option.

I forsee many institutions dealing with the same problem in the near future.