OT LOST Finale
Oh and this...
it ends with Hurley eating onion rings and it shifts to black.
OMG DID HE HAVE A HEART ATTACK?! WAS IT JUST THE END?
IT'S ALL IN HURLEY'S HEAD!!!1!
/sarcasm
Seriously, can't wait until tonight. 4.5 hours of Lost to end it all - gonna be fun.
It was all a dream. FAKE! SPOILER ALERT!
There are many question I want answered, but one in particular will probably go unanswered. I want them to tell us why Walt is "special". To me he has been one of the most intriguing characters that has been widely neglected after they got off the island.
I also don't think that Ben is going to really kill the rest of the candidates. I think he is planning a long con on Not Locke/MiB. I am really excited and sad at the same time the series is coming to an end.
I would expect to get anything on Walt. I could be way wrong but it would be out of left field and awesome. Yes I expect Ben to con MIB and die because of it.
Aaron too.
I would guess Ben is having second thoughts about helping Smoke Monster. His deal is he gets the island after SM leaves and now SM says the plan is to destroy the island.
I think they're going to kill off Jack. Right now the end seems too obvious, and these producers love making a mess.
the anointment of Jack to replace Jacob came too easily. It felt very anticlimatic so I'm hoping there's more to it.
I kind of thought that too, but if you think about it, Jacob has been indirectly pushing Jack to the position. Also, they both start with "Jac". The producers probably thought it was a good idea to have the successor have a similar name so that they could say, "Do you see what we did there???"
Yep, totally agree w/ Jacob indirectly pushing Jack to the position all along... even back in episode 5, the one w/ the light house, Jacob tells Hurley that some people can be told what to do, others need to stare out at the ocean to realize it. (Jack)
That's the exact scene that I was thinking of.
I think it's so they don't need new monogrammed towels.
anyone have a smokemonster update? we gotta get this guy on campus
polar bears have great pad level.
Probably wont happen since Jack is supposed to protect the light, but another crazy Lost theory I had the other day:
Something interesting to consider is the notion of life, death and rebirth. Jacob throwing MiB in the light killed him and turned him into the smoke monster, then maybe, throwing Not Locke/smokey into the light will be the rebirth of the real John Locke.
They're setting him up for a sacrifice. Christian themes are woven around his character. His father is named Christian Shepard, and he keeps getting these strange bleeding stigmatic wounds.
Dead man walking.
In Claire's Season 1 flash back episode, Claire went to a psychic (Richard Lakin). The psychic "sensed" danger and tried to convince Claire to raise the baby herself. Claire still tried to give up the baby but when she went to sign the adoption papers, the pens wouldn't work. She then changed her mind and went to see Malkin, who had also changed his mind (by intervention?) and told her she needed to take the baby to a couple in LA and that she needed to be on Oceanic Flight 815.
That episode seemed to insinuate that Aaron was going to play a part in everything but they never really expanded on it.
Yep. I agree. I'm not one of the poeple that wants them to answer everything, but, the Aaron thing is one that not only seemed important on the show, but, the writers said that Aaron was important, so, I'm bummed it's went unresolved. I don't think it will be resolved tonight either. With only 2.5 hours left they have way too much more to answer that's more immediate than that.
One thing i was thinking about with Aaron though is there are parallels with him and MiB. So, I was thinking it'd be interesting if he ended up being an MiB type character. They were both born on the Island, have "crazy" mothers, and were raised by people other than their real mother. (Well, Aaron was so far. I guess it's possible Claire gets off the Island and raises him.) MiB turned out evil as a result of all this, and, the psychic predicted the same thing for Aaron if he was raised by someone other than Claire. Lots of similarities there.
MIB was evil because he was thrown into the light(and killed). Before that he wasn't that bad of a guy. He just wanted to know where he came from. Now the light has made him a evil smoke soul who has been trying to find loop holes for years. I don't think all his up bringing made him evil, it was the cave of light that did.
It all ends in Ann Arbor
The concert is actually in the Big House. (Little known secret)
The DHARMA Initiative was started by two Michigan doctoral candidates.
4-8-15-16-23-42
They better explain that or at least make some sort of reference to it tonight.
Eh, I don't think they need to. Here's my somewhat logical thought on them (I may be forgetting details, so forgive me if this contradicts something in the show):
Jacob, in an effort to set forth the events that would lead to Hurley getting on the island, places the crazy guy in the mental institution and instructs him to repeat the numbers. Why not use the numbers that are used in the hatch? Then Jacob fixes the lotto so that Hurley wins it and eventually heads to Australia.
If they don't bring it up, I will use this to settle my mind.
They failed with the numbers, I believe. I still loved the show, but it did have a few letdowns.
In case you are unfamiliar with the Lostpedia website, http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Numbers contains a wealth of information about The Numbers, some of which is mere speculation, but some is semi-canonical.
The Numbers were one of my favorite themes through the first two seasons. I am at a point where I feel comfortable that they have been explained (albeit outside the show itself) well enough for me not to get all Hulked up if they aren't mentioned tonight.
That contradicts my explanation a bit. However, I guess you can mold my explanation to be in line with that site.
That site also makes it fairly clear that we shouldn't expect any exact explanations re: numbers.
I saw a special Q & A with those guys at the theater on Thursday. Someone asked specifically about Walt - They said he WAS going to make an appearance in the finale.
Also, someone asked about why Aaron was special (according to the psychic) and Cuse and Lindelof said that he had been completely discredited in the show (i.e. untrustworthy), and that Aaron wasn't special.
Can't wait to see it, I will miss LOST.
Hmm... Interesting.
I remember that now that the psychic was discredited....
BUT... there are other things that indicate Aaron is special... like the Others wanting him (although I guess that could be discounted b/c they wanted kids in general, not just Aaron)... and also the apparition of Claire appearing to Kate off-Island saying "You're not supposed to raise him, Kate." There might be others that I'm forgetting...
By the way, anyone know if there's a torrent with the full Q & A with Lindelof and Cuse?
I looked on the NYT website and they have clips but couldn't find the whole thing...
Click through to youtube and the other 11 are on the menu to the right.
Where was Walt in the finale?
Yep, totally sad that it's ending.
Re. deaths, I think the only real safe character is Hurley. There's no way the writers kill him off, people would be so upset. (Then again they might kill him precisely for that reason.)
I think Jack's a goner.
In the last episode, one of the things the candidates mentioend (can't remember who said it) in their fireside chat w/ Jacob that they should try and kill MiB, to end it so the cycle of someone having to step up and protect the Island would end. (Kind of like what Jacob said in last season's finale "It only ends once, everything that happens before that is just progress.") I think that's what they're building up towards... a final battle where they kill MiB and end it once and for all.
Jack will probably die a sacrificial death in that battle.... I think Ben is also in danger. Sawyer, maybe too, but less so.
I think Kate's pretty safe, and Desmond. (Desmond might be the one to drag MiB back down to the light, since he's resistant to electromagnetism it might not harm him.)
And of course Vincent. They *have* to keep up the finale tradition of showing him.
But, re. the deaths, if I had to bet, I'm thinking Jack and Ben are goners, and Sawyer, Kate, Hurley and Desmond survive on the Island... in the ALT, who knows what will happen, or what it even is.
NO SPOILERS!!!!
Jack is going to die while shaving.
Jack sucks. He has zero personality as an actor/character and does nothing but whine (despite the fact that he has had by far the easiest life of any character on the show). I would rather have watched that lame couple who got buried alive early in the show for the past six seasons. Hopefully he will be killed off immediately so I can spend 2.5 hours tonight enjoying the finale instead of wasting any energy hating Jack.
Oh, ok. Thanks.
Actually, if you hate him so much, you should want him to be stuck on the island forever. :)
Why is the island so important?
I don't really care about who lives and who dies, etc...(sorry to be so hard-hearted - I know there are deep attachments). The island itself is the most important character of all, and the thing that everyone seems to be fighting/losing their lives over. Just answer that question, heralded creators, and I will forever be grateful.
island? what island? there's an island?
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ohhhhh, now that actually clears a few things u- no, wait.... no IT DOESN'T CLEAR ANYTHING UP AT ALL!!!!!!!!!
My favorite theory so far is that Jacob ends up being the villain, or the representation of evil. For most of the season it seems like the Locke impersonator is the bad guy. It seems just like the writers of Lost to throw a changeup like that at the end of the series
Yea, but Jacob didn't kill any one.
Except MiB, and you could also make the case that he is 'killing' all the people that he brings to the island and then lets the SM have his way with them.
This little preview show is good.