OT: Looking for Premier League Team Identities
Wolverhampton Wanderers =Detroit Lions. I knew there was a reason why I chose the Wolves
My favorite part is he picked my beloved Spurs to root for. They're good enough to contend, but not so great that they've got one of the big reputations/followings. If you want to follow a good entertaining team but not be a bandwaggoner pick Spurs.
is awesome as well. Passionate people that support the team through everything, and the players recognize this closeness. Suarez was a GREAT pick up and is already showing that. It's gonna be a great year...... YNWA
Suarez is the man.
I picked LIverpool for 3 reasons:
1. I used to listen to my tape of Pink Floyd's "Meddle" over and over on long roadtrips. The song "Fearless" has Liverpool fans singing "You'll Never Walk Alone" at the end of it.
2. I wanted to pick a team that isn't one of the big bullies, but isn't in any danger of being relegated either.
3. I like the Beatles.
Liverpool is considered one of the Big Four and had the record for most titles until Man United just passed them last season.
Liverpool reminds me of the Red Sox - a big-market team that pretends it's a plucky underdog.
They're more like the Cardinals. They have some bucks, but nowhere near as much as the top teams. They were dominant from 72-73 to 90-91 when they were lower than 2nd only once, but since then they have no titles and just 2 2nd-place finishes.
The big 4 is more like the big 6 now, with Chelsea, Man City, and Man U in the first tier with the big bucks, and Liverpool, Arsenal, and Tottenham in the second tier.
Liverpool? The team tied for the most titles in Englsih history? The Cardinals?
Their midfield defending was pretty bad today.
but from my past knowledge of the prem, these are pretty accurate...it actually has piqued my interest in following Everton
From last year, but great Spencer Hall (EDSBS) as always:
On a serious, personal note, I chose Liverpool two years ago when I wanted to get into the EPL. I wanted to choose one of the big four, because if I get to choose, why pick a team that has no shot at the title? However, they have never actually won the EPL (since 1992-3 ish) and have been relatively bad the past two seasons. They are currently the underdogs, I guess, of the teams at the top tier in the EPL (ManU, ManCity, Chelsea, Arsenal). They are also owned by the same group that own the Boston Red Sox, NESV, so woo America! My only reservation is that Lebron James now owns a small piece of the team.
LFC, Manchester United, Aston Villa and Arsenal are all American owned.
It has to be organic or it won't take. Pick your favorite player and like his team. It will grow on you. I like Henry, therefore I started following Arsenal years ago. Now, I curse Barcelona's very existence and fear this could be the year Arsenal doesn't qualify for the Champions League. Relying on van Persie and Walcott to stay healthy is futile.
Find a team that you enjoy watching play, read about their histories, one will jump out at you.
I have followed the EPL for just about 6 years. I never really enjoyed watching until i met my wife who is British and is huge ManU and HotSpurs fan. The EPL IMO is associated with its local community. Aresenal, Liverpool, Chelsea, and ManU are the usual suspects to be atop the EPL. I find myself always cheering for the underdog tho.
So after several years of watching I pledged my loyalty to a club that is steeped in tradition but has fallen off more recently, and that club is Newcastle.
They have an classic stadium, fans, and Kits(UNI's).
One last thing, Please watch a few matches and choose your own club to support.
Here is a quick list of possible teams that you might find some interest in ... they have american players.
Everton: Tim Howard
Fulham: Clint Dempsey
Bolton: Stuart Holden
Found that the Spurs, Chelsea and Liverpool were teams that I found myself rooting for.
Found an immediate disdain for Man U but I think that has been influenced for quite some time.
Not that I hate rooting for the big boys - I really enjoy watching Barcelona play but feel guilty doing so.
I was just look for back story for the MGoCommuntiy since their perspective is often much more interesting and informative than the journalists, although I do appreciate the links above.
As you watch more matches and become interested in certain teams, you'll begin to realize that there are some teams you cannot like simultaneously. Chelsea and Liverpool are one of them. There are basically two types of team near the top of the EPL, with a completely different history. There are teams like Liverpool and United, who have been at the top for ages (think traditionalists) and then there are the new "hot" teams, like City and Chelsea. For me, as a Liverpool fan, I naturally despise United. Howevear, I respect their tradition. I think I may loathe the ridiculous spending Chelsea and City has done within the last 5-10 years moreso.
While they both are spend happy, Chelsea has exponentially much more history (Founded in 1905, they play in the Premier League and have spent most of their history in the top tier of English football. wiki), and was a reputable club before abromovich took over, whereas city was basically awful before they were bought by someone who is richer than the rest of the owners combined.
there are other Americans who support the Toon! Here's to another season of suffering through the trials and tribulations that is Newcastle United football. I was lucky enough to go to a match at St James' Park while in England on my honeymoon. Aside from the Big House it was the best stadium experience for a sporting event.
on my bucket list. I already have a 2nd Honeymoon semi planned for England on my 10 year anniversary. Thanks for the feedback.
I started rooting for Arsenal because I really, really liked Theo Walcott. It isn't wise to pick a team based on its players (bye bye, Cesc, Nasri...), but it certainly doesn't hurt to have some fun players to watch on whichever side you choose. A lot of people think Jack Wilshire is going to be one of the finest players of his generation, and he would die for The Arsenal, so latching on to a player like him would be fine.
I must warn you, it's a pretty miserable existence as an Arsenal fan. Historical powerhouse with a guru for a coach (Frenchman Arsene Wenger) who had one of the best teams of all time (The Invincibles) just a few short years ago, but hasn't won any hardware since 2005. Talented team that has been beset by injuries and can't seem to put it together. Defense has been porous recently, and they tend to lose in heartbreaking fashion. Lotsss of similiarities to being a Michigan fan.
I completely understand wanting to avoid ManU/Chelsea/Arsenal, but just remember that you're going to have a pretty rough go of it rooting for a side that doesn't spend with the top clubs in the EPL. It's fun rooting for the underdog, but you'll need to understand that choosing a team like Everton or Fulham will mean that you'll basically be rooting to finish Top 8 most years.
I suggest watching a few games from different team you're considering supporting and going from there. Arsenal v. Newcastle United today at 12:30 EST!
As I wrote above, I fear for the future. I've never sweated the departures before but losing Cesc and Nasri is scary. Maybe Wilshire and Ramsey will do the job.
I'm kind of in the same boat. I read the Simmons article and it was entertaining. I just can't see picking a top 4 team unless something really inspires me to do so. After a season of watching, I've kind of narrowed it down to Everton, Fulham, and Tottenham Hotspur. Hopefully it will reveal itself to me this season.
Like everyone else mentioned, take some time learning about the history of some of these clubs. You can choose a club by their players but then again, that love may be short-lived as players often will transfer.
Anyway, my club is Manchester United. You can say it's the popular pick, but yeah, whatever. I started following them when they won the Treble in '99 as a young kid and only a handful of games were televised over here. After that, I learned about defining momenets in their club history (e.g. Munich Air Disaster), their legendary players (Best, Charlton, etc.), and most importantly, their comprehensive youth academy. Man United is truly a club.
With all that being said, if you're ever in England during the league season, go to a game. I can't emphasize enough how awesome that atmosphere is at games in Europe, and in particular, England. Good luck on finding a club! Just don't pick City, Liverpool, or Chelsea...
As you watch more games you will see a style of play emerge for all teams. You may like to see a more defense style like Manchester City and Sunderland or a more offense style like Manchester United and Arsenal. Watching games at certain pubs will allow you to watch games with team clubs if you are in a bigger/soccer city. It can be fun with others who are so passionate about their team. I would agree with the other posters about picking a team near the top four but I would also pick an underdog as well just for fun.
Style is a biggie. Stay away from any team coached by the man named Sam Allardyce.
Fulhamerica for me. And any other team with a Yank. Though my favorite player is Ji Sung Park. Slagged by Man U fans when he originally signed because they thought he was there just to sell shirts in southeast Asia Park is a superb combination of skill, style and spirit. If your son grew up to be the Ji Sung Park of plumbers you'd go to your deathbed with a smile on your face.
Liverpool = Michigan.
Why, you ask?
1) Liverpool has the greatest tradition of any EPL team, and despite Manchester United finally reaching 19 titles before Liverpool (stuck at 18 since 1990), Liverpool still holds 5 Champions League titles to United's 3.
2) Speaking of United, Liverpool vs. United = Michigan vs OSU. Both teams definitely mark down this day in their calendar. It's always a heated and intense match. Manchester and Liverpool aren't very far in distance, so it's similar to Michigan vs. Ohio.
3) Liverpool's other rival, Everton, is much like Michigan vs. MSU. Everton and Liverpool share the area known as the "Merseyside" in England. Being in the same city, they are obviously rivals, but Everton has always been in the shadow of Liverpool's success.
4) Despite not winning a cup since 2005, and no league title since 1990, Liverpool's fans are as arrogant as Michigan's. Both groups of fans expect success because frankly, it's Liverpool and Michigan.
5) Lastly, both teams have recently brought in new coaches to "bring back the glory." After both teams attempted to bring in "different" styles of play, they are returning to their bread and butter. For Liverpool, Kenny Dalglish was hired in January. He's a former Liverpool player, a previous manager there, and is dubbed by the fanbase as "King Kenny." Michigan hired Brady Hoke, and well, you know his story. Both coaches have rejuvenated the enthusiasm in their respective fan bases.
Again, Liverpool = Michigan.
Michigan deserves better...
And who do you suggest, United?
Try and compare that drunk Scottish prick who bullied United to the top to Brady Hoke, I'd love to see it.
When Brady Hoke becomes a refmonger and moans about decisions if Michigan doesn't win, you may have a fair argument.
Liverpool is a terrible choice, and I would say that Manchester United is more like Michigan. First of all, while you know that Liverpool and Everton are in the "Merseyside", clearly you have never been there. Downtown Liverpool is nice, but you have to take a bus to get to the stadium (about 20 minutes away). You also have to take a bus to get to Old Trafford, but the difference is that Trafford is a very nice area of Manchester, while Liverpool's stadium is straight in the ghetto, unlike Michigan (trust me, I've been there). It is also less than a ten minute walk from Everton's stadium which you compared with MSU. While that comparison is fair, a better example is for MSU would Manchester City. Manchester City would easily be considered United's "Little Brother", and only recently in the past couple years (cough cough MSU) have they been good. Trust me, United is a better comparison for Michigan than Liverpool. And besides, you wouldn't want to be rooting for that Scouse accent, would you?
Liverpool not so nice? You mean Michigan players/coaches don't get their houses robbed on gameday because the crooks know that nobody is home?
Relax, I'm just messing with ya.
I second the notion that Liverpool = Michigan, particularly from a team indentity standpoint.
ManU just seems like too much of an evil empire (ala OSU) for me to relate to them.
So for now I say:
"You'll never walk alone!"
ManU are the Yankees, but their fans carry these delusions that they're somehow not an evil side that buys titles and everyone hates.
I mean, let's face it... being a ManUre fan outside of Salford is like being a Yankees fan in Idaho.
I agree with the all of the posters already . You should watch some games, and pick out which team stands out to you. You should definitely pick a club that will at least finish in the top half of the table (standings), even if it is one of the big four.
As for my team, I am proud to say that I am huge Red Devils fan (Manchester United). I first started liking them when I played FIFA 06 when they had Christiano Ronaldo. But last semester I studied abroad in Manchester, England, and I went to the United vs. Aston Villa game on Feb. 1 where United won 3-1. Vidic scored once, and Rooney scored twice, where the whole stadium chanted "ROO-NEY!" ROO-NEY!" That game was easily one of the best experiences of the semester, and the atmosphere was insane. While the stadium (Old Trafford) is smaller than the Big House, it was louder and everyone was chanting and yelling. I also went to bar/pub and watched a few matches with the English friends I made, and it truly made the experience.
I also did a stadium tour of Old Trafford, and touched the grass (the whole EPL has to use real grass FYI). My stadium tour was on February 6th, which also happened to be the same day of the Munich Air Disaster. Perfect timing, since there is a memorial outside the stadium where about 100 people came for a moment of silence and put flowers by the memorial. Like the above poster said, Manchester United is full of history, and that is truly what makes the club so great. I also saw the stadiums of Manchester City, Liverpool, and Everton.
Good luck finding a team, and make sure you stick with them! Glory Glory Man United!
I follow the Wolverhampton Wanderers (probably the only American ever to do so) and I've accepted that the Wolves will probably never challenge for a Premier League title unless they get extremely extremely lucky. It'd be the equivalent of a 13 seed winning the NCAAB tournament.
The only thing that drives me crazy is that European soccer is worse the MLB. No salary cap and teams just throwing money around. There was an article last year that Wolverhampton was the only team in the Premier League to make a profit. Every other team broke even or lost massive amounts of money. It's frustrating, but that's how it's been run for years.
Man U = NY Yankees
Man City = Mets
Liverpool = Red Sox
No clear analogy for Chelsea and Arsenal. (Dodgers and Phils maybe, but neither are perennially good at the level needed to make it work).
That's right kids, those sweet, sweet Jam Tarts. Heart of Midlothian FC. And what better time to become a Jambo. Just humped the sheep shaggin' Dons 3-0 this morning and have a huge European tie kicking off this Thursday against Spurs. We will come from the north bringing pain and destruction to White Hart Lane (assuming the locals don't burn it down first) and we will taste European glory.
And even if we don't win, our crazy Lithuanian owner will be there to assure us the loss had nothing to do with lackluster management, player performance, or, God forbid, a lack of fan support. Rather the true culprits will be exposed for all the world to see. The referees. Or the mafia. Or the referees who were paid off by the mafia. Or the other owners in the league conspiring against us. Or the officials at the SFA and UEFA (who are probably all paid off by, you guessed it, the mafia).
So dust off your John Robertson top and start singing Hearts, Hearts, Glorious Hearts!
oh Jesus, I actually agree with this
If you canny spell it then here’s what it says
Hearts glorious Hearts
And you can watch this one while you're singing along.
Ok, after about 3 minutes of that I think the video needs a subtitle: Hibs Adventures In Shambolic Defending.
You'd think Hibs were fielding all Spanish sides with all the matadors in that tape.
I've liked Hearts since I placed my created self on their team in FIFA 04 or 5, a great side with tons of idiosyncrasies to cherish. But I will definitely be rooting against them when they march into North London this week. Gotta love me some Spurs. You are right, though. Hopefully WHL still stands when they get there.
I'm a QPR supporter, god help me, but that's due to location and having actually lived in England... I can't imagine just picking a team from scratch.
Try to avoid either Manchester side or you'll look like a twat. Ditto Chelski.
First, I am a huge Man U fan and have been since I was 5. This started because my 5 year old soccer team was named the Red Devils and happened long before I knew they were good.
The problem as listed above is that if you don't cheer for the big 4 (or man city because they are not in the big 4 no matter what they try to do), you honestly won't win. This is not like cheering for the tb rays where you might win the al east once every ten years, you just won't win.
If any comparison works, its that man city is like msu football if you know marky d had unlimited money to spend on 5 stars.
But winning the league isn't all important... it's inherent in the culture. When 3 teams are promoted including the winner from the lower divisions, league titles become comparatively unimportant. And there is promotion from the Prem, to Europe. So teams like Villa and Fulham offer plenty of opportunity to "win" (which is an utterly shallow reason to cheer for a team anyway), just not in the way Americans think of winning.
Plus, cups. Anyone can win the League Cup.
I root for Norwich. they are not a good team and often are subject to regulation but I used to live a few miles from their field and I will always root for the Canaries.
Hell yes. When QPR plays on Fox Soccer next week, it will be the first time I've ever seen them play on TV. That's the real joy of following a small club... so what if you never win the league? There's just as much joy in those little moments or in winning promotion back to the Prem or in managing to stay up (not looking good for my side, but best of luck to the Canaries)
I've always cheered for the Blues since I've been a soccer fan, which admittedly is only about 3 years now. I originally picked them because of Didier Drogba, who always seemed awesome to me and though he might be a little past his prime now, absolutely tore up the Premier League a couple seasons ago when Chelsea won the title. It only takes a season to pick a team you like, but once you have its hard to root for anyone else.
Also they're the Blues, whereas ManU, Liverpool, and Arsenal are all red.
That being said, with Norwich now up in the Prem, I have to root for them to do well too. Two of the funniest people I've ever met at U of M were brothers from Norwich who did an exchange year at Michigan. So Norwich has a Michigan connection, On the Ball, City!!
Sports fandom is an irrational, emotional experience. You can't ask someone what team you should root for. It just has to happen.
I lived less than a block from Emirates Stadium. I saw it every single day when I walked to the tube station. My first real club match was Arsenal thrashing Sheffield United in the League Cup. By all rights, I should be an Arsenal fan. And yet, I'm not. Because fandom is irrational and I felt a much, much deeper bond to the second division club that played on the opposite end of London. And that's just how things go sometimes.
You don't get to pick who's colors you bleed, that simple.
I became a Liverpool fan because I liked the Beatles... I would agree in comparing them to the Red Sox (long title drought, fan base is generational, tradition, and so on). Funny how both clubs are now owned by the same people. I can't wait to make my trip to Anfield in October. A guy from Liverpool who sat at my bar told me, "Just remember, you didn't choose them, it chose you." Ha, take that how you will.
I hear that one a lot and it's funny because a) none of The Beatles were really football fans and b) even when they did talk footy, they supported Everton. Well, Paul went Reds in the 80's to be hip but went back when he was called on it.
Don't pick Arsenal until Wenger is gone. Guy sells his two best players and I guarantee you he won't spend the funds on anyone who is anywhere near good enough to replace them. Liverpool are rebuilding. Chelsea, United and CIty are just too easy to choose.
I chose Fulham back in the day. At one point they had three or four Americans on their roster. Now they only have Clint Dempsey but he's arguably there best player. They've gone from relegation battles to top ten finishes over the last four seasons, as well.
At one point the Cottagers had *5* Yanks on the roster at the same time: Bocanegra, McBride, Johnson (GAM), Dempsey, and Keller.
Ahh, those were the days.
Here you go.
Arsenal: A solid old football club not yet tainted by big money poured in from an outside owner like the rest of the scum toward the top of the league. They actually have their finances in order and tend to develop youngsters from a young age rather than offering godfather money to other teams.
Their manager is Arsene Wenger, a frenchman who is very particular in his beliefs about financial fairplay and the way the game should be played (on the ground, lots of technique, good passing). They won a bunch of trophies in the late 90s and early 2000s but have been on a drought since then, though they've been in the top 4 every year and been very close a couple times (a few cup finals, a CL final, very close to the league).
You will always have the moral highground with this team vs. the other big teams. They often send out a starting side for which they paid less in transfer fees than the bench of the opposing team (vs. big teams). They just moved into a big stadium they financed themselves and have almost paid off through financial prudence.
A lot of people complain about their attitude, Arsene especially, but I love them to pieces even if they've been breaking my heart since 2005. He tends to complain about finances a lot but that's just true.
Aston Villa: Owned by Randy Lerner, an American who owns the Browns. For a while they were one of the best mid-table clubs but they've fallen off the last year or two, especially when Martin O'Neill (manager) left. He made them better.
They tend to be a very direct team who plays down the flanks with their wingers and keeps it solid in the back, but that could be changing with the management change. The manager of their arch rivals, Birmingham City, moved to the club after Brum got relegated. The fans are not happy.
This is a club in transition.
Blackburn: A small town club with a recent history of success under Mark Hughes and then Big Sam Allardyce. They were recently bought by some Indians who wanted them to play more attractve football and so fired Allardyce for some new caretaker. I don't expect too much from them this year or in the near future. They used to be a bitch to play though.
This club also won the league in the 90s with Alan Shearer, a famous forward who scored a lot of goals for them and Newcastle where he retired.
Bolton: Another smaller town club with lots of success under Allardyce. He left them for Newcastle, a much bigger club historically, but that didn't really work out. Since he left they were eh for a while until they got Owen Coyle, who has them playing pretty attractive stuff. I see them on the bottom half of the table this year.
Chelsea: Fuck Chelsea. A small-time club from West London who got bought by a Russian billionaire. He poured a zillion dollars into the club, buying players for 30-50m (each) over his time there. He fires the manager every year they don't have a sensational season. Lots of good talent in the side and Lampard and Terry are homegrown, but in general I hate them. People in the States who are Chelsea fans make me sick.
Chelsea were the original "ok this is just silly money" side in terms of what they spend vs. what they earn (it's almost entirely outside money). Manchester City now makes them look small.
As an Arsenal fan I'm bitter with the way these pricks destroy the transfer market.
Everton: The other team in Liverpool. Wayne Rooney came up here before moving to Manchester United so he could win trophies. They have a very good manager in David Moyes who can have them be sneaky good year to year depending on injuries, which they can't absorb very well
Everton are a solid little side who traditionally keeps it tight at the back and counts on a creative midfield to push up and score around whoever the big striker of the season is. Tim Cahill and Arteta are some of their most exciting players. Tim Howard plays for Everton.
Fulham: A very nice London club owned by an Egyptian who owns Harrods. Usually a solid mid-table side. They have a history of having Americans in the side, including Brian McBride and Cliff Dempsey. Sometimes they sneak up into th Europa (second European cub) places.
Very few people really have a problem with Fulham. They've been in the prem for like a decade now.
Liverpool: I don't hate Liverpool on principal the way I dislike some other sides like Chelski. I just find their players very unlikable. Carragher used to be a bit of a c*nt, though I'm pretty sure he's gone now. Gerrard goes down easier than a truck stop whore but he still has a decent reputation in England for some reason. Also just looks a tosser. Suarez I think people are familiar with. The team's identity, in general, was for the last few years Gerrard and Fernando Torres, a big Spanish forward, leading the way. Torres got sold to Chelski last season to do f*ck-all for 50m and they used that money to buy a couple of good young forwads. They've gone on to spend some more money this summer and look to be an interesting team.
They're owned by the guy who owns the Red Sox. That's also a recent development. Liverpool as a club was an absolute behemoth in the 80s and still good in the 90s before tailing off for the past decade, though they did win some trophies including a memorable CL final.
Manchester City: Man City is tough because I used to like them in opposition to United and their fans have certainly been tortured enough over the years. They got bought by some UAE people who pump their money out of the ground and therefore have more money than they know what to do with and use it ridiculously liberally to assemble a team of mercenaries with a coach who used to coach Inter Milan. Arsenal have sold them a few players for more than they were worth. They generally pay way over the odds.
I hate them because they unsettle the transfer market and look to have lured a good Arsenal player to them by offering him silly wages. The team should be interesting as it gels over the season, though the way the team is structured means I don't really think they'll win it all (too defensive).
Manchester United: Man Utd have the best manager in the league if not the world and manage to run themselves very well and win freaking everything. They are also over-leveraged in a way that makes the credit crisis look like nothing and so if for some reason their revenue shrank by a bad season would be in the shit, but whatever. Before they got bought by the family that owns the Bucs they were in very nice shape financially and their problems are more to do with the Glazers than anything.
They're also the team with Rooney and blah blah blah damn it I hate them. Arsenal and Man Utd ran the 90s and early 2000s in the prem and those were exciting times. Now Man Utd has perhaps done a better job keeping up with the silly money being spent than Arsenal. Man Utd is also famous for the treatment they get from referees in their home stadium, yes I will say it, it's absurd. I believe they have the biggest stadium in the league at 70k+.
Newcastle: Newcastle is a traditionally big club owned by someone pinching their pennies and trying to get rid of them, though I believe he's a local lad. Newcastle is way up north and their fans are very dedicated. Playing at St. James is typically tough, especially in the winter months. The identity of the team now is a lot of steel in the midfield and not a whole lot of adventure in terms of attack.
Norwich City: Norwich are a bit of a yo-yo club who got promoted from the Championship last year. It's a nice club, but they'll always be struggling to stay up.
Queens Park Rangers: QPR just got promoted back in the Premiership this year after a long absence. They will also always struggle to stay up, though they have a good bit more history than Norwich if memory serves me right. They're a London club not far from Fulham.
Stoke: Stoke City have a drill seargent (I believe literally) of a manager who keeps them tight and physical. They look to score on set pieces including long throws. A tough side. They can bully most clubs outside of the big 4 on their day. Stoke itself is a working class town so this fits the identity pretty well.
They're gradually trying to go from decent success into a team fighting for Europa League spots.
Sunderland: The city of Sunderland is actually very big and so it's surprising how awful this side can sometimes be. Lately they've been promoted (a few years back) and have been decent. They're managed by an old defender for SAF at Man Utd. The black cats or mackems are a tricky side in that they really blow hot and cold. I couldn't even really tell you what their identity at the moment is to be honest.
Swansea: New to the prem. I believe they're Welsh which is unusual. I don't expect them to stay up.
Tottenham: Outside of the recent unrest there, I believe Totenham to be the scum of the earth. But then I'm an Arsenal fan (big North London rivalry there). Somewhat known as a side from a very Jewish area historicall and their fans are sometimes called "yids" or the "yid army" (just reporting) by their own as opposed to from opposing fans in insult. Lately they've been knocking on the door to be one of the big clubs along with Man City. The team has a lot of money and is well-managed in terms of using that money, though they want a new stadium.
Their manager is a real wheeler and dealer named Harry Redknapp. He's coached a great many clubs through the years. They're pretty stacked in the midfield and have a great young Welsh player named Bale who's quite exciting. I can see why Simmons chose them.
I still hate them.
West Brom: A team that got promoted last season and managed to stay up but just. They're a bit of a yo-yo club like Norwich. Nice little club but it's always going to be a scrap for them to stay in the league.
Wigan: Wigan is traditionally a rugby town but their footie side has been up and down in recent years. They're managed by a Spaniard who actually tries to get them to play attractive stuff, with some success. They just stayed up last season and they're another side that will always be struggling from a talent perspective.
Wolves: Another up and down club that managed to stay up last year. A bit of a charming side historically but a tough one to be a fan of as they'll get thrashed a few times a year.
Like I said that was prejudiced but there you go. I figure that's probably a pretty thorough answer.
very well done
I agree with previous posts basically saying, you can't just choose a squad, otherwise it'll never stick. A team has to speak to you. I became a Michigan fan in '92 (when I was 8) because of the Rose Bowl and the Fab Five, and then saw the '95 UVA game with Mercury Hayes TD catch and I was hooked.
Gotta start watching some Premier League games and hopefully a club speaks to me.
I agree with this. I recommend playing a bunch of fifa or PES or Winning Eleven or whatever it is and finding a team you like, then watching them on FSC or espn 2 or whatever, haha. Also, finding forums for the club (there's an active forum or 10 for every club) and seeing how you like the culture bit. From there you know whether you like a club, love a club, or don't quite fit.
This is how I chose Arsenal anyway. Don't regret it even if, being honest, Arsenal have upset me more than Michigan the last 5 years.