OT - Lomas Brown purposely missed block to get Scott Mitchell hurt
We need to start trying this Cool Story stuff like politics/religion on this board. It is getting incredibly obnoxious to see someone posting COOL STORY BRO on every damn post thinking they're hilarious...
Especially when the story is interesting.
I am completely in agreement with the "cool story bro," I hate it, but I still enjoy the "this won't end well." There are some topics that come up and you think to yourself exactly that.
Especially since this actually is a cool story
This is how I feel when I get a cool story bro
"this will not end well" is equally annoying IME.
"Cool Story Bro" is the last refuge of those who aren't able to create original, smarmy comments. It is becoming a tired ex-meme.
I wonder if that's what he teaches tackles to do at Andover High School, where he's currently an assistant.
He should be fired immediately, no ifs, ands, or buts.
Cool story, Bra...
(hahahahaha.... I've been drinking and I though it was funny...)
Anymore, since Andover football no longer exists (Andover class of 1997)
Sorry for off topic, but...this was the last year, was it not? They merge with Lasher after the end of the current school year, I believe. I was on the Andover swim team and they are announcing some type of reunion for the last dual meet the teams will swim against each other.
This was it. Andover only got through 3 games this year before folding due to lack of players. Just one Bloomfield hills high school next year.
There is no more Andover football team. They're merging with Lahser next year and canceled most of the season this year due to lack if student interest, specifically a lack of linemen.
I didn't realize that they folded midseason, just that he took an assistant job for 2012.
I thought they ran out of quarterbacks.
As a former Andover High School (Go Barons) lineman, we did just fine whiffing on blocks without professional help.
This was probably a "best known secret" deal in NFL circles but to admit it on ESPN is nuts.
The Packers have played home games in Milwaukee over the years.
Well that wasn't very nice of him.
think very highly of Brown. Now he is a piece of sh!t to me. How can a lineman want to injure a fellow team mate? I understand taking a play off every once in a while, but dang.
So in the spirit of Christmas (vacation) Mr. Brown is a......
A Christmas gift from Lomas Claus....It's a broken finger!
I remember a group of Bears who used to go after Cedric Benson in practice all the time. The lineman would tip the play, miss his block on purpose and Urlacher would clean him out.
What an ass. I understand not liking a teammate, but to fail to fo your job in order to hurt the guy and by extension, the team, is reprehensible. I lost all respect for a guy who was a very good tackle for the Lions.
So the awful history of the Lions gets even worse. It's bad that the only really quality lineman they ever had in the Barry era deliberately missed a block; its worse that the "franchise quarterback" of the prime years of Barry Sanders was so awful that his own linemen were okay with him getting hurt and even tried to let it happen. And that said quarterback continued to be the Lions QB for another couple of seasons.
From the quotes of Brown in the article, his hostility toward Mitchell can't be just a result of Mitchell's bad play. There is clearly no love lost between them.
Alas, Andolsek was run over by a semi while mowing his front lawn. Add to this Reggie Brown, Mike Utley, and Chuck Hughes and the Lions curse makes the Cubs curse look tame. People suffer death and life altering injury in the Lions curse.
Joe Delaney called to remind you the Chiefs have had some pretty bad luck too.
But yeah, Andolsek's death never got enough attention in this town. He would have made the Pro Bowl his last season had he not uttered one too many racial epithets during play. He and Spielman were pretty tight.
Andolsek was the widest homo sapien I've ever seen. My wife suprised me with a trip to Lions' camp at Oakland U his rookie summer. Far off in the distance I saw an older Lion, a well-known DT whose name escapes me now. Eric Williams? Eric Williams. The guy was working on his own away from everyone else, with a coach. Every few minutes some other player was brought over to go one-on-one with Willams for some snaps. He ate them alive.
At some point they bring Andolsek over. Coach blows whistle and they scrum to a draw. Reset, do it again. Reset, do it again. Now Williams is pissed and decides to dish the kid some extracurricular physical abuse after the whistle. From the view of my binoculars the kid doesn't seem to respond at all. Williams is now just yelling at him. Coach decides to bring someone else in and Andolsek walks quietly away.
I didn't know who the kid was and I look him up on the program. Andolsek, 5th round from LSU. I learn his number and decide to keep an eye out for him after the practice is over.
Practice ends and the players begin the hike over to our part of the field and start signing autographs. I'm keeping an eye out for Rodney Peete. Hard to miss; the guy looked like a movie star from 50 yards away. He gets closer and closer, but someone else gets in my line of sight. The guy is so wide that he blocks Peete from view completely. Its Andolsek. A total eclipse of the Peete. Rodney could have died on the spot and I never would have seen it.
I get Andolsek's autograph and I'm practically speechless. I'd never seen a human built like him before. And never since. They called William Perry the Fridge. Andolsek got a nickname too; the Table. Could have called him the Doorway, because I don't know how he could fit thru one. He would have gone down as maybe the best guard ever to wear the Honolulu Blue & Silver.
That eliminates them from the curse talk. Every team has real life tragedies, but few combine that with on-the-field futuility so superbly as the Lions do.
This changes my opinion of Lomas.
What a piece of shit.
I don't care how bad someone is, doing something to deliberately cause physical harm to a teammate is just... man, I don't even know if there's a word for it.
I don't recall if he's a hall of famer or if his number is retired but if either are the case they should be revoked.
Does frequency of occurrance make it right? If you found out that virtually every major college football program cheated, would you then say "well okay, then, must not be that bad?"
I'm really tempted to provoke Godwin's law here. So what if it happens a lot?
Every league have their share of criminals. You sound like a kid who got picked last at dodgeball and get beat up by the jocks at dodgeball
Do you have data to support your conclusion or are you, like a bigot, labeling an entire group based off of the actions of a tiny fraction of said group?
"Play some time and you'll understand it's kill or be killed"
So by kill or be killed you're suggesting that somehow Mitchell's being on the field was a threat to Brown? It really dumb when people (you in this case) throw out stupid rap lyric or whatever it is and pretend it actually means something. The guy intentially didn't do his job to try to injure a teammate. When you played football you did that all the time? I guess that doesn't surprise me JayZ.
That they were on the same team, right?
I highly doubt that the majority of players in the NFL have a criminal record.
If it's not an inherently harmful situation, the frequency of occurrance can be a good argument for making something legal that is currently illegal: prohibition is a good example, the overtures towards paying college atheletes a stipend last year is another.
"And for Brown, who is suing the NFL because he says the NFL didn’t do enough to protect players from concussions, to celebrate the fact that he once stood by and allowed an opponent to take an injury-causing free shot at a teammate, is pitiful."
Sums it up perfectly.
Aside from actually doing the deed, he is a fool for publicly admitting it. I doubt it could happen, but it would be cool if this info derailed his participation in the lawsuit.
It puts that into perspective I guess. Also underscores the Lion's inability to win...everybody was rowing their own boat.
Yea Lomas, Dave Krieg would have done a much better job.
Actually, Dave Krieg did do a much better job. He basically led the Lions into the playoffs that year and posted significantly better stats.
If you listen to the rest of the interview, the Lions ended up losing by three. They were down 24-3 when Mitchell went down. So, yeah, he did play better.
It might not be the smartest or cleanest thing to do, but the point of the story was that teammates get super frustrated with terrible quarterback play, i.e. Mark Sanchez. Brown talked about how the o-line was busting its collective ass and mitchell was making terrible mistakes, killing the team.
The dirty part was when the host suggested why not tell mitchell to fake an injury and sit out. Brown insinuated that, because he was so frustrated, he wanted mitchell to get hurt. That's pretty low, but I certainly can understand getting frustrated at awful QB play, especially when it appears he isn't giving it 100 percent.
He kind of did. Went 5-2 from there on out with 14 TDs and 3 INTs. I could tell he was better even though I was about eight years old. I still remember him getting sacked at the end of that playoff game against the Packers... although that doesn't exactly help my point.
Can't be held against him. The Lions never, ever win in Green Bay, and that playoff game was a classic example. Of course, in '94 the memory of the last win ('91) was still recent, but we know now that the Lions basically enter an infinite improbability field whenever they cross the Wisconsin state line.
best qb for a long time.
Ugh, tomorrow's Festivus Airing of Grievances thread can't come soon enough so I can complain about the Lions.
I bet Mr. Brown gets the bill for Scott Mitchells bill for that finger injury
"There’s never an excuse for a football player to step onto the field and not give his best effort, but to fail to give your best effort because you want one of your teammates to get injured is totally unacceptable. " - from the article
I absolutely agree, and I would love to hear Brown explain this to kids who are learning to play as a team at any future football camps he might hold in the Detroit area, or indeed, at one of his next motivational speaker engagements.
You know, he spoke to the Southeast Michigan Entrepreneurs Association about "winning" and "teamwork" in September at a gathering in Southfield. Obviously, these don't mean what he thinks they mean.
Scott Mitchell made my eyes bleed, but to do this is indefensible. I met Lomas Brown when I went to a Lions camp as a kid. To do this as a teammate is dirty.
I kind of expected this occurred at times, but there really is no reason to come out and say it. Brown was paid lots of money to defend the QB, regardless of who it was back there. To fail at his job, in such a malignant way, is infuriating. Leave the player management and depth chart to the coaches.
I knew Lomas for a couple years and he's an incredibly kind person. It surprises me that he would air this dirty laundry on ESPN. It sounds to me like this was justice served by the kangaroo court. Stuff like this happens a lot more than people think. Mitchell was a cocky QB who rubbed people the wrong way. This is the same guy who mocked his head coach with his Holloween costume. I'd be willing to bet Lomas got more than one wink and "atta boy" when they returned to the locker room.
when are you planning on getting the banhammer?
Same old lions. The absolute joke of professional sports
In the past, I've always thought very highly of Lomas. He was one of my favorite players, until now. If this is true, it really changes my opinion of him. I don't care how bad your QB is playing, or how much you may not like a teammate, but to intentionally miss a block in hopes that your teammate gets hurt???....to me, that is just the UNTHINKABLE. That is the ultimate betrayal, and completely breaks any football code, whether unwritten or written. Wow.
This epitomizes the kind of culture that permeates the Lions.
Most dysfunctional and poorly-managed team in all of pro sports, hands down.
May take that title but we may be second!
Epstein is in the midst of a methodical rebuilding process in Chicago, I think they have a better franchise than the Lions. A more profitable one as well.
Says all you need to know about the Lions.
No. The Cubs have won more than one playoff series in the past 50 years and have come very close to making it to the World Series. The Lions have never even come close to playing in the Super Bowl. They are one of only four teams that have never played in a Super Bowl. And the other three are expansion teams. Hell, the Jacksonville Jaguars have come closer than the Lions.
There is no bigger train wreck in the four major sports leagues than the Detroit Lions. Not the Cubs, not the LA Clippers, not the Toronto Maple Leafs. And there is no owner more incompetent than William Clay Ford. That is an objective fact.
If you've ever listened to Lomas talk about Mitchell it's obvious he thinks the dude was awful! So this shouldn't come as a surprise that he'd admit to doing that!
Mitchell was totally irresponsible with the ball, I can't remember a game he played that didn't involve an interception! That and Lomas wasn't on his blindside so Mitchell again....idiot.
The inmates were running the asylum. If only someone could've let a free defender slip by into the booth where old man Ford was sitting...
No idea why this was downvoted. That pathetic excuse for an owner represents everything that's wrong with corporate America. It may not happen in our lifetimes, but the day the Ford family sells the Lions will be a great day for football.
It was wrong. Lomas shouldn't have done it.
But you know, I feel for him. I can imagine that he thinks he's doing it to make his team better. Which, arguably, he did. He probably rationalized it as he's just going to let himself make a play as bad as one of Mitchell's plays, and this time Scott would suffer the consequences.
So, yeah, he shouldn't have done it. But as a Lions fan, I sort of understand where he's coming from.
Yeah, Lomas is the type of guy I'd like in the foxhole next to me. What a tool. I obviously live in a fantasy world where teammates would do anything to protect each other and make each other better, but not Lomas. Makes me sick.
Haven't you seen heaven can wait with warren beatty? The rams were brutal towards him.
Or better yet, Paper Lion?
and now I like him even more. Scott Mitchell was hot garbage and deserved to get taken out
I don't know how often this happens but that fact that he is talking about it today with no remorse, shows you the kind of person he is.
Considering how celebrities and coaches are currently being held to a much higher standard of morality than the rest of us if they want to keep their jobs, I wouldn't be surprised if Brown got suspended or even fired.
In his favor, though, ESPN is being run by part-timers and interns until the "big boys" come back on Wednesday. If this could turn into a huge story on Monday with the "heavy hitters" in the media slamming him, he would at least get suspeneded. Considering the current public attention span, everyone might have already forgotten it by Wednesday.
This was a stupid move, but great timing.
The reaction to this is interesting to me, primarily because no one was upset about this when it happened. One of the things that always warms my heart as a Michigan fan is that we, in general, and unlike a lot of other fan bases, understand that the ends don't justify the means.
Wow, I've played with some QBs that I didn't exactly love, but come on it's your freaking job to protect him.