Lions take on the Giants at home today. Still need a Bears and probably a Packers loss today, so feel free to discuss the Packers game in here too (they're playing the Steelers in GB).
My hopes are very low. Go Lions though.
Rooting for a Lions win and a better Giants draft pick.
Last week was my first experience really cheering for the Lions - I wanted Megatron to shut that kid up and the Ravens need a year off, anyway. So, now that I've experienced that - holy crap, I don't know how you guys do it.
Anyway, go Lions and shred my G-Men!
(our team is an abomination)
(if you can't beat these Giants, trust me, your season was never going anywhere, anyway)
The Lions lost at home to the Bucs. This team can lose to anyone.
Management may have gotten through to some of the players that flat out quit last week that jobs are on the line, but the Giants can't get around one nasty detail - they suck. This team is not run of the mill terrible. They are atrocious.
But they still are a talented team.
Atrocious is what the Lions have been for most of this decade.
I doubt we'll see a great effort from the Eagles tonight seeing how a win/loss makes no difference if there division race which comes down to a victory next week, so da Bears should have an ez nite
That would put them up a game on the Cowboys.The Bears are going to get steamrolled on the ground.
Tonights game means nothing at all to the Eagles, there focus is on a victory next week vs the cowboys
Win and they still have a one game lead. Plus, they just got smashed by the Vikings. I think it's safe to say that they will come out ready to play.
500 rushing yards, a 63-0 win tonight and a loss to the cowboys next week= no playoffs... Do you get it now?. Win or lose means NOTHING for there division title, which all comes down to next weeks game
It could matter for their seeding though, couldn't it?
3 seed you probably get the 49ers, 4 seed you get the Saints. So the seed could be up for grabs, but still pick your poison.
So, you're saying when a team has a must win game next week they will take this week off? I completely disagree.
will come out lackadasical when they just got curbstomped by the Vikings?
Also, the Bears don't need to win. If they lose they'll still have a shot at the division next week v the Packers. So it's true for both teams.
Actually, if the Lions win out and the Bears lose 1 game, the Lions win the division because of the tie breaker.
i don't disagree, I was just stating the facts. This football season has been hard on combo Michigan/Lions fans. Nothing is ever easy.
It means nothing to Phily as Dallas wins the tie-breaker.
is a good thing.
I know the Cowboys are eliminated if they lose next week (8-8 = no playoffs), period, but is it the same situation for the Eagles or can they get in at 9-7?
If they can get in at 9-7, this is not a meaningless game for the Eagles.
to watch online?
First Row. Always First Row.
I'm convinced I will never see a lockdown Lions secondary.
To be fair with the new rules of the NFL, in addition to more pass first teams, I doubt we ever see a true lockdown secondary for anyone again.
when the team needs it.
I am in full on hockey season mode. I no longer give a shit about the Lions after they choked down the stretch. Same old Lions.
This whole scoring play, commercial, kickoff, commercial routine that the NFL puts on is seriously getting old. Every time someone scores you might as well leave for 10 minutes.
Two losing teams but the one with the worse record will win and keep the team with slim playoff chances out of the playoffs.
So how do the Lions lose this one? 100 yard kick return to end the game?
As a lions fan who would u want to see in the playoffs between bears or packers?
Hell of a play there by Stafford
There's the Reggie Bush we know and love.
Well at least I'm not a cubs fan.
I am a cubs fan.
Classic Lions. Just gotta enjoy the show i guess
Lions have a lot of money at the DT spot more than anything.....DE is still a weak spot and is why the DL doesn't dominate at all. Depending on Willie Young and a rookie on the edge wont get the job done.
Also, dont even get me started on the charmin secondary.
They also need CB's and a #2 receiver.
Hey! Charmin is squeezably soft. The Lions secondary is not so squeezable.
Edit: Though I hope that guy is OK.
No team in sports is more frustrating to watch.
A lot of you guys are probably really fun to hang out with.
Yet another 2nd half collapse.
This is the most gutless team I have ever seen. This team lacks heart and determination.tThey are soft.
It's the first half Quattro.
I think he means 2nd half of the season, but I could be wrong.
Got it. My bad.
Does it really matter? The Lions are a bunch choke artists.
That looked really bad.
Typical Delmas headhunting.
I'm a fan of another team that had some unsettling second-half problems...
I stopped being a Lions fan when they moved to that damned Silverdome indoor monstrosity, and now they're in another one.
Blecccch place to watch a bleccchhh football team.
Luckily...with that play Delmas will again get a paycheck he hasn't earned in about 5 yrs in Detroit.
It's the corners and the lack of a consistent pass rush that is the issue.
You wont convince me that Delmas hasn't been stealing a paycheck for years.
so I'm watching Pats-Ravens instead. Much better football, I'm pretty sure.
Stafford is hot garbage.
i would like to see what hill could do with these weapons with some extended playing time. stafford could easily have 2-3 more ints this game. need more sidearm!
Hill wouldn't be any better with this grab bag offense....once the lions figure out what they want to be then they might do something.
he just seems smarter to me though.
Nothing funnier than Lions fans who claim they're done with the Lions, yet keep coming back for more just so they can reiterate exactly why they're done with the Lions.
Go Bears! Screw the liedowns until the Fords relinquish ownership.
only a matter of time with this clown QB.
I have a deep abiding hatred of Lions.
In the words of my uncle, ''why do people still pay money to go to these games? They haven't won anything in 50 years.''
Is a wise man
The clock is ticking on Schwartz'. He will be gone soon.
I'm so glad with their playoff lives on the line, they came out like ass clowns
Stafford is oblivious. Refuses to use any type of proper mechanics and slings it wherever he wants.
Lions will lose this game by 17+
Let me say this, I think Stafford is still the QB for this team, but at this point can Shaun Hill hurt this team worse than Stafford?
They do need to get a QB coach.
Bill o'brien please
This image describes Lion fandom.
Lolcats: Stafford picked off by DL. Lions D gets sack, but then clock stops on delay of game penalty for trying to hold the receiver down. Giants kick 52-yd FG.
Easy to blame Stafford...but I would assume it is hard playing QB when you literally only have 1 WR who can create seperation from his DB. Just a bunch of 6-5 & up WR's who can't run. Nevermind all the drops this year.
Not saying Stafford has been great, but the point is, this whole offense has underachieved this year outside of the OLine. It's the fucking bizarro Wolverines.
They probably need to add two receivers this offseason. Corners, receivers, and another DE who rush the passer.
has set records this year with mediocre receivers. there is no excuse for all of the stafford ints. none.
are not mediocre.
mediocre was a poor choice of words. i was baseing my comment on manning's year 1 at denver where his play elevated that team's performance on O. welker has certainly enhanced it this year.
Ummm what?? The Bronco's probably have the best trio of receivers in the NFL.
I don't think Stafford has been great, but there is nobody on this team who seems able to catch the ball consistently save for Johnson. Schwartz needs to be gone for various reasons, but this offense needs another overhaul at the receiver position.
has been off in part because he is pressing. His receivers just aren't good enough. He forces the ball in because of that. Titus' implosion and Broyles constant injuries have really hurt the offenses development. That is two second round picks who have failed to develop.
The guys they have on the field at WR are retreads for the most part. Burleson is a #4 at this point in his career, yet he is the Lions #2. Next to CB this is the Lions greatest need. I'd also like to see them add a pass rushing end as well.
I'd like to see them add new owners.
of losing than his father.
That ain't going to happen. I am jumping over to the Bears bandwagon.
like a good point guard. marino, elway, manning, even brady take mediocre receivers and make them productive. the lions have the best wr, one of the best receiving rb, a solid (often injured TE), yet that isn't enough. we need all pros at every skill position, but then it will be the O line's fault.
He is about the only one I can say that about.
Big return by Ross. We'll get either a TO or a FG.
They have to spend their 1st two picks on WR and DB.....no other position needs to be looked at.
You can generally pick up a quality sleeper WR in the mid-to-late draft, but they NEED some help in the secondary.
The Lions have Slay,a 2nd round pick last year. They should not spend a 1st and 2nd on CB's. Not when they desperately need another WR.
poor Durham...dude cant by a PI or Holding call.
if the pass would have been close to the playing field he may have gotten that call.
Four penalties on four consecutive plays in the Pats-Ravens game. Belichik must be going crazy.
Oh lovely. The dreaded punt from the opponent's 40 yard line. I predict the field position we just gave up gets erased in three plays.
Edit: Boy was i wrong. Wow.
Finally some DL push!
We have life!
may have some money on this game...
Fauria with a big catch to set up Riddick's run.
Refs just absolutely CHEATED for GB.
One of the all-time strange plays in the Steelers/Packers game. Pittsburgh blocked a field goal, picked up the ball, lateraled it, fumbled the lateral, and a Steelers player illegally batted the loose ball out of bounds. It was going to be Pittsburgh's ball on downs, except...
The officials ruled that the Steeler that initially recovered the block had never actually had possession (he lateraled it as soon as he got it and I guess they thought he'd never gotten control), and the penalty when the defense illegally bats a ball is an automatic first down.
First and goal, Green Bay. Play not reviewable because change of possession isn't a reviewable issue and they can't use replay to decide which team was on offense at the time of the bat.
Someday, and I'm only 54 so there's still time, but someday I want to watch a game where there's an unbelievably bullshit call that makes people think the fix was in and have it NOT go against me. Just once. I'll bet i've seen somewhere around 78 or 79 such calls in my life and they always, always, always go against the team I want to win.
Congrats Green Bay. You are Roger Godell's chosen team of destiny and as such will be be helped any way possible to victory.
Replacement refs Seattle vs GB last year?
Wow and just like that the Steelers are about to be up by 10 after a pick 6.
Pick six Pit! Fuck you refs!
STEELERS DOING THEY PART, WE DOING OURS
COME ON PHILLY
Philadelphia doesn't need the game--it's winner-take-all against the Cowboys next week for them, no matter what happens tonight--so it isn't even certain they'll play their starters.
Which would be bad--I'm starting McCoy and D. Jackson in a fantasy championship this weekend.
Was talking Lions until they derped it up.
Lions need points on this drive to put the game away. Don't leave it at one score please.
Does that count?
FUCK FUCK FUCCCCCCKKKKKK
The Lions always seem to find a way
I've never seen a team consistently make game killing plays. Unbelievable.
No Lions lead is safe from their own ineptitude.
The entire Lions team....added together.....plus the entire coaching staff.....would not get even an average Wonderlic score. They are easily the dumbest collection of humans assembled to accomplish a task I have ever seen.
resulting in 17 Giants points. There ya go
At this point it's almost as if this football season was supernaturally designated as being especially painful. This thing of screw ups happening at exactly the wrong time is getting out of control.
Do you think Stafford is trying to get him fired? I find myself wondering.....
I already know what will happen. The Giants will go up, the lions will attempt to either tie it or win it, and will throw an interception.
I've seen this movie before.
Have you? I find it amazing that the lions find a different way to lose every week, it's a poorly written sit-com.
The Lions are absolutely going to find a way to lose in regulation. It would surprise me more if they didn't
I guess your surprised lol
Yep. The Lions are Lion-ing things up again...
The Detroit Lions. Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory since....well....their inception.
Hey they were good in the 1950's!
Just lucky Eli sucks this year.
I dont know if they'll lose in the last minute or in OT but one thing I do know.
How does a team that quit last week give you fits at home? We should be killing these guys.
If you were the Giants why wouldn't you go for it? You have nothing to lose. Then again they can probably count on the lions throwing up on themselves again.
Sux and i never get to up or down for games..sadly i just watch it in a zone...been like this my whole life..michigan football is an emotional rollercoaster though..that said lets go lions..yeah
So, what QB should the Lions be looking at mid first round come draft time?
We'll be lucky to get to OT.
Ok now we can lose on the last second field goal.
You have Calvin Johnson......C'mon man.
OMG a prayer. hahah Manning
Whoa. The Lions made a play
ELI OUT ELI'D MATT
Quin saves the Lions bacon, for regulation at least.
What a derp fest
These teams are both so so bad
why would they run on 2nd and 1 with no timeouts. stooooopid. the game no one wants to win. fitting that it will be OT.
gonna be an OT tie.
Did I just see Jimbo look back at the crowd booing and say, "Fuck you"?
Was Schwartz just jawing with someone in the crowd? Sure looked like he was talking to someone beyond the Lions bench
Stay classy, Jim.
Glad I'm not the only one who thought that's what he was doing.
His ass needs to be gone. Rex Ryan would be a good fit, not even playin'.
Thats what I saw as well. I thought I might have been hallucinating, but I guess not.
23 seconds left, 2 TO's, all you need is a field goal, and you run and then let the clock run out?!!!!!???
No way..reset button has been hit..play for ot..why throw a hail marry atleast with 1 second on clock we got megatron who can jump out the roof
Telling the fans to FU is so Ohio........
Saw that too. I'd fire him on the spot. He will never take this team anywhere
In other news....Green Bay has just tied up the game against the Steelers......
Every Lions fan knew that was inevitable haha
Good thing I am a cubs fan
And Cox with the big return
Magnus is psyched
Here we go
Magnus just shed a tear.
The game ends on this drive.
i was at that game BTW. We were up 17-3 with under 4 minutes to go - had a fourth and inches from the Bears 40 with Billy Sims in the backfield. And we punted. And we lost.
I think that's going to get reversed.
Looks like he's down.
As a Bears fan this game is ridiculous to watch. Somebody win the damn game, either way I don't care at this point
Left elbow was on the turf before the ball came free
At this point I'm rooting for Schwartz to be fired. I hope he's ruled down.
For a Schwartz F U to the crowd .gif?
Oh my..maybe...oh nfl help please...increase the playoff picture drama
welp..here we go
Under five to go on the GB 40
Are the football gods trolling Lions fans?
Since before I was born..
Is there where we choke? Lets break the cycle Detroit
This. Is. Shit.
I hate everything
just pack it in now Lions. You obviously don't want this.
The Lions have no downfield passing game whatsoever.
just pack it in now Lions. You obviously don't want this.
Will read: Greatest Decoy in NFL history.
Is gonna put the dagger in our hearts..how fitting
Honestly...the lions have turned into the worst team in the league the last 5 weeks.
Hold the bus there fella. The Browns arent giving up that crown just yet.
2 minute warning.
I live in Wisc, so I am forced to watch this crap
get fumble deep in GB territory
Gotta get pressure..ahhhhh fuckn lions grr
Are we going to lose on a 59 yard field goal?
Nevermind, they will lose on a shorter field goal
There's the game.
That look on Jim Schwartz's face was one realizing he is soon to be unemployed
Considering that his buyout is said to be 12 million dollars, unemployment looks pretty good.
"You're fired. Here's a check for 12 million dollars."
Please fire me and do that.
Dagger. Or one of many, whichever you prefer.
Jesus Christ! How'd I know that 4th and 7 would bd an easy conversion?
Call a fuckn time out..fire his ass now..dline is gased..stupid mofo
Fuck the Lions.
Saw offense set up on 4th down..call a time out and reset..thats stupid as shit honestly
Ice the kicker? Indoors? LOL.
Telling the fans to fuck is not good for business. Time to pack your bags, Jimbo.
Fans like to fuck too
Good bye Jimbo. Good riddance.
Bull shit..pa fucking thetic
Schwartz is gone
Too bad he won't hang on to it
Time to clean house again I guess
lions lose to a terrible team with nothing to play for while the season is on the line for his team. the result is telling.
didn't see that coming... oh wait, yes I did!
I hate the lions.
At least we'll have a new coach next season
With the $12m payout package
This dong punch of a sports year in 2013 just rolls on and on, don't it?
Lions blowing it is not a dong punch. It happens every season. It is like the sun rising.
Dantonio. He's a total jackass, but there's a distressing lack of Sparty, No! Which is what plagues this franchise.
Plus, gets him out of East Lansing. Win-win!
Na na na na hey hey hey goodbye Schwartz
Ya, that one hurts. See ya Jim
Giant(HAHA) choke job. Lions need to go after O'Brian at PSU.
And before Minnesota grabs him.
Bring back Fontes. At least when his career was on the line, the Lions seemed to play well.
Schwartz basically rode a hot start to one season over 5 years to the playoffs, and it is time for him to go.
On Duvall Street with a Lions shirt on. At least no one really cares that much here.
If anyone wants to know why you take a knee a la MJD when you're at the goal line and can run out the clock in a tie game, the Steelers are offering a master class here.
Get brian kelly instead of BOB lol history repeats itself for 3 years..atleast we can see purple explosion face every week..yeah..we need to get a good guy, good morals like BOB...not some up and coming guy..fuck that..
i think the lions have made strides the last few years in getting good player personnel. that said, how much influence does schwartz have in making the draft picks, etc. 20%; 50% or more? i'm hoping that axing him will have zero negative impact.
in over a decade when they added Xander? I have more faith in the front office now with the additions they have made. This is a playoff-caliber roster. Coaching and player development(Stafford) are the issues that need to be addressed.
Of fucking course.
I hate this team so much.
and being a long-time Lions observer I'm not remotely surprised by the outcome.
When I look at the stats I see Johnson only had 3 receptions. Is he hurt or just triple-covered all game?
They said his knees were bothering him, and he was used mostly as a decoy.
The Pack lost. What do the Lions do? Lose. Splendid.
We now have just one example to fill the "evidence base" concerning the Detroit Lions. They are one of the very few teams to have a dominant divisional record yet be out of contention for the division. http://www.usatoday.com/sports/nfl/standings/
Different coaches, different players (some truly great), different GMs and different executives and yet the results are largely the same - flickers of hope admist a thick gloom of mediocrity. When this happens in other sports it is clear that there is a curse bedeviling the team and only a full blown exorcism will get the team to the next level.
Barry Sanders may turn out in retrospect to the most insightful of the recent Lions - he saw only years of the same old SOL (same-old-Lions) and was able to run and walk from the game.