Title says it all. Good sign. Hopefull the lions sign vontaze burfict. Whoever signs him gets a good LB
chance of bowl: 13.6%
I like this a lot. He should be a great backup for Stafford.
I wonder if we can send Hill to the cowboys for jenkins. I know not likely but we still need a decent cornerback
Not sure if serious? Shaun Hill is great as a backup and with Stanton gone as well there is no way in hell im letting Hill go with only Kellen Moore as backup.
No way would the trade Jenkins for a back up QB.
Yes, I believe that Hill is probably the best backup QB in the league, but I think Moore will be pretty solid. I think we should AT LEAST shop Hill and see if we can get a good CB for him. If we can't, then keep him. However, if we can, I'd say to go for it. We can always sign a 3rd string QB for little to nothing and let Moore battle it out with some vet he could learn from.
I can't believe some of you guys, Stafford has only played 1 full season of healthy football and you want to have the primary backup be a guy who doesn't even know the offense? NFL offenses are alot more complex and i'd like my backups to be in the system a few years to understand the intricacies of Linehan's offense. Kellen Moore in time could be a good backup but no way, not right now. Just look what happened when Jay Cutler went down for proof that you want an experienced backup.
if Stafford goes down, we're fucked anyway. Hill is good, and he could start in some places, but we won't make a legit run with him. Might as well sign some vet 3rd string QB and let him and Moore duke it out for backup. I have a feeling that Moore will be a quick learner and a veteran QB would help him. Also, like I said, we should see what we could get for Hill first off before just giving him away. If we could get a good corner for him, I say do it. Absolutely. So, I'm still going to disagree with you. But you do also make a fair point. My thoughts are just what I would do in this situation. There's no harm in seeing what's out there for a guy like Hill.
Pro offenses are more complicated, but BSU's offense is one of the most complex in the college game. I wouldn't be surprised to see him pick up the playbook rather quickly. Also, hopefully Titus Young will help him get up to speed.
Very surprised he wasn't drafted.
agree hurt his draft stock most.
He will be a great backup. I like the pick.
signing by the Lions. Let him learn behind Stafford and Hill. Eventually he'll step in to be Stafford's backup.
what you did there...
signing or pick, either way it'll be nice to have someone who has the "intangibles" that you look for in a quality backup
Good for him. Seems to me he has kind of been screwed over his whole college career. Kid lost 4 games total in 4 years and never played for a national championship... That has to be some sort of record that will never be broken.
/Screw the BCS
Ehh he doesn't get any sympathy from me for playing in the WAC. Happy with the signing though, he could be good.
Are you trying to say the WAC and the MWC doesn't have better competition than Indiana and Minnesota?
If you're saying that either conference comes close to the B1G, PAC 12, Big 12, SEC, or even the ACC in terms of competition you're delusional.
I agree that the top end talent of the teams in the major conferences are better, but don't sleep on how good teams like Boise State and TCU are. They do have their fair share of talent. Andy Dalton is doing just fine in the NFL and in my opinion Kellen is just as good. Although, Stafford is much better than either of them so it doesn't really matter.
BSU usually plays three good teams a year and nine tomato cans. We underrate the middle of the Big Ten, but look at how tough they suddenly appeared when Michigan was stuck playing sophs and freshmen against them. A Big Ten team usually plays two tomato cans a year in the nonconference portion of the schedule, and maybe one or two others within the conference at the most.
In other words, most Big Ten teams play a schedule that is the opposite of BSU's when it comes to the bona fide team/tomato can ratio.
I just wish Moore had another year at BSU so that Sparty could play the BSU team that was getting to BCS bowls instead of the rebuilding one they will face this fall. BSU should win seven or eight becuase of the aforementioned tomato cans, but they aren't going to look anything like the team that has caused so much discussion the last four years.
You act as though he passed up playing at Michigan or Alabama to play in the WAC. He was a three-star recruit that had offers from BSU, Idaho and Eastern Washington. All he did was go 50-3 as a starter, with wins over Georgia, Oregon (twice), Oregon State, Arizona State, Virginia Tech and quality TCU and Utah teams, despite his well-recognized physical limitations.
The "tomato can" theory doesn't explain why his stats against BCS opponents were often comparable to his stats against non-BCS teams. Also, he didn't get to pad his stats against tomato cans too much because he rarely played for more than 3 quarters of those games.
There are no guarantees about his future success, but he is one guy that seems to overachieve wherever he goes. He is like having another coach on the field.
ever hear of a guy named dennis franklin???
Another player I thought would get drafted Eric Page Toledo wr/kr. I mean if 2 other wr from the mac got drafted why not page?
I work with Eric's dad. He was pretty confident he would get drafted 3rd or 4th round. Hopefully someone will pick him up.
Going to Tampa Bay
Not a great athlete and doesn't have a cannon of an arm but he has everything else you want in a quarterback. Hopefully Stafford stays upright for the future but if he went down, I could see Moore stepping in and managing the situation.
"Not a great athlete and doesn't have a cannon of an arm but he has everything else you want in a quarterback."
I'm sorry - is this a thread about Drew Brees? Tall with a rocket arm does not also equal NFL success (just ask Jeff George) and being undersized with something less than a cannon doesn't always equate to failure either (or so says Joe Montana).
is 1000x stronger than Moore's arm. Brees arm is above average. Moore arm is poor.
We aren't looking for Drew Brees out there, or a franchise qb for that matter. We're looking for a guy who can come in, manage a game, and come out with a win if Stafford goes down. With the weapons he'll have if he needs to play, Moore could do that.
The Lions passing game is built on smarts and short to intermediate routes...which is what Moore is good at.
Before this UFA signing I would have said the Lions class sucked balls, now not so much.
If Brees arm strength is "above average" please list for me the 17 starting Quarterbacks with arm strength poorer than his. If he's above average then there has to be more than half worse.
Brees arm strength is below average by NFL terms. As is Moore's. It's a matter of degree here IMO. And I lived in San Fransisco from 83 to 90 (the Niners glory years) - I can tell you that Joe's arm strength was nothing to write home about. He was just deadly, deadly accurate with nerves of freaking steel.
please dont start arguing that every 6'0 and under QB has the opportunity to be drew brees.
Watch how he made ridiculous passes between the hashes and opposite hashes. This is the passes that Moore will struggle to make in the NFL. He has noodle arm.
If you want below average arm, Chad Pennington is a great example and that's Moore's ceiling.
I like this, he has to be better than Stanton I would think.
Moore throwing to titus young would be cool. Especially if they connected on a pass on the blue portions of the field at ford field. LOL
Very nice pick - should be a nice backup for the Lions
Burfict is headed to Cinci. Glad the Lions didn't attempt to sign him as the OP had hoped. If a kid is at one point considered a first round lock, and ends up not getting drafted at all, there's a damn good reason....
I'm glad Burfict is not headed to the Lions. The dude doesn't tackle, he just tries to get the highlight hit.
That kid is a complete waste of talent. Cincinnati will soon discover that.
Burfict gets an invite to the NFL combine in Indy, but he showed up out of shape and ran a 5.09 in the 40. Here's a link to an ESPN story that might as well be a PR fluff piece about the guy.
I don't know who his agent is / was, but either Burfict ignored his advice or the guy is an idiot. An overweight linebacker who can't crack 5.0 in the 40 shouldn't be running the 40 at the combine. Pretend to have a sore thigh or just sit it out. Before that 40 time came out, no one would have guessed he would be that slow. Also, his reputation is that he's a hothead or dirty player. Of course every coach interviewing him is going to ask him about it. His agent should have sat him down and rehearsed answers to a question like that.
Love the pickup. Sure beats the hell out of taking Cousins in the 3rd round like some people (State) wanted
especially if they're hot, and second cousins. /s
How did Kellen Moore not get drafted? All he did was win at Boise. Great pickup by the Lions.
Kellen Moore should have gone in the 2nd round. He is a great pickup, and put up ridiculous numbers at Boise State.
Are you serious? You play too much PS3. He is not a draftable QB...
On that note, I am surprised that the Colts picked Andrew Luck over Case Keenum. Wtf were they thinking?
I would say to keep Moore as Stafford's backup and see what you can get on the market for Shaun Hill. I think Hill is better than some starting QB's out there and could compete for a starting job. Maybe shop him for a corner or something along those lines. We could always sign a decent 3rd string QB for an inexpensive contract and he and Moore could battle for the backup spot.
Kellen Moore is *football smart*, and sometimes that's enough to win ballgames.
He has enough arm strength to play in the NFL. He's one of the most accurate QBs in the 2012 class, second to only Luck. Not ideal height but is only a quarter inch shorter than Brees. At the very least, he can make it as a solid backup. Excited to see him perform in the preseason.
Dude...Kellen Moore does not have the arm strength to make nfl throws