Good vs. Evil apparently.
OT: Lions game open thread
Titus Young hahaha
Titus Young contributing early. I think his continued progression would really add another dimension to this team.
I don't think I've ever seen a receiver that open.
Jeremy Gallon wasn't even that open against ND
2nd round of the playoffs, when Charles Rogers ran an inside route against us and some how I had over the top coverage. It really didn't turn out that well.....
They've been blaming that stuff on the lack of summer practice time. Still, after 8 weeks??
Is it Tebow himself that bothers you? Or just simply the fact that he gets so much airtime on every single show devoted to NFL coverage...despite not doing a whole heck of a lot on the field yet?
If it's the latter, I'm with you...there is an ungodly amount of hashing and rehashing that occurs on those shows (my patience and tolerance of this has steadily decreased over the last few years). But otherwise, I think he's just a fiery guy who's very confident in his beliefs and values, and that will permeate EVERY aspect of his life (as it should, if he's truly as devout a Christian as he appears). But yes, that can certainly grate on people, I get it.
I think the disdain is due as much to anti-Christian attitudes among the secular than anything Tebow does.
I think people forget that bigotry exists everywhere among all groups. The anti-Tebow animus some display is an example of this.
Seriously? You don't think there could possibly be some other reason why people don't like him? I don't mind him, but I could see his habit of constantly giving Jesus credit for his performance in football giving some of the more rational Christians (i.e. ones who don't think Jesus cares about football) some fits.
I've also heard some Christians being annoyed with him because of how much he is admired for his missionary service. So he went to a third-world country for 2 weeks. Is that actually impressive to anyone?
Regardless of one's beliefs, at some point it's just annoying to listen to someone banging on about the same thing, especially when his performance hasn't lived up to his draft position, his endorsement deals, or his popularity.
But I also am aware that a lot of secularists do not like Christians for a variety of reasons. People throughout this land automatically dislike others simply because of their religion, race, gender, and politics. I have found this in all groups.
Bigotry is universal.
Unfortunately, you are correct. In any case, I think people who are outspoken tend to catch more attention, and thus, more flak. In Tebow's I don't view him as a "hellfire and brimstone" preacher-type, just a guy who stands that strong in his faith. As a lifelong Christian myself, I respect him totally for this (though my style of expressing my beliefs may tend to be more muted).
In terms of Tebow giving Jesus credit for everything he does on the football field, that's just an extension of him viewing Jesus as the source of all his gifts and talents (and thus, the opportunities to impact people's lives in a positive way). It's not simply about Jesus caring about football ...though I believe He's a Michigan fan.
And I think that's just about enough of that for now, just wanted to fully share my piece.
Yeah I hear you man. I'm sure Tebow's a great guy and a good team mate, but ESPN has ruined him for me. They did the same for Favre (who did have at least a hand in it I guess).
Spoken like a true Sparty.
Wow, you're a tool.
Tebow doesn't personally bother me, but the the way the media pushes him is repulsive. My circle of friends and I call this "Care Rape". I feel the same way about the Cowboys, Yankees, Lakers, and Heat.
...catchphrase for this.
I also feel like the media does the same thing with Crosby in the NHL. I mean, fine, the guy is a great player but I don't need to have everything he does pushed on me 24/7.
It's "Denarding" to me, but yeah that was pretty funny.
I'm no "fan" of Tebow, but he is without question, the best collegiate player of my lifetime. I just never thought his skill set would translate to NFL success. Off the field he sounds like a stand up guy, and pro spoorts could certainly use more of those.
Edit: Best Collegiate Football player
pull out tapes of Tommy Frasier.
of the 2008 Citrus Bowl: UM 41 UF 35.
2010 Cam Newton is on the phone. He'd like a word with you.
I would take 2005 Vince Young over Tebow.
anyone who watched his games at OSU, at Oklahoma, and essentially "at" USC in the Rose Bowl knows that VY in '05 was better than anything Tebow ever did.
Since the first drive the Lions have been playing fantastic D. Tebow has like 3 completions.
What a catch by Sheffler!
Man, I figured Scheffler would have had a better TD dance prepared for his former team.
anyone know where i can watch the game online?
Is just one of those pickups that show Mayhew knows what he's doing.
Did the punter just get a personal foul? I don't believe I've ever seen that.
Punter called for personal foul.
Lions playing well so far. Stafford looks sharp.
Domination of Tim Tebow Part the Second. That's what I'm hoping for anyway.
The Detroit Lions are about to complete the first half of the 2011 season by clobbering the Denver Broncos and ending up 6-2.
There is a clear absence of Matt Millen this time around.
Mayhew was part of the same staff, dude.
Mayhew also worked for Parcells, who his mentor. What exactly is your point?
They took the third best available QB with the number one overall pick, they took a tight end with stone hands in the first round, a RB who can't run it up the gut and has a history of concussions in the first round, a RB whose achilles tendon exploded, another defensive tackle in the first round when they could have taken an elite defensive end instead (oh, and Fairley hasn't done ANYTHING). Another wide receiver in the 2nd round when they have glaring needs on the offensive line.
The only solid pick they have had so far has been Ndamukong Suh, which was a total no-brainer.
Stafford has 19 tds vs 4 INT's, a much improved defense, Petitgrew's has dropped fewer passes this year. They also drafted a solid receiver in Young, a promising DT in Fairley, and rebuilt their linebacker and secondary corps to the point where they have a top 12 defense.
Oh and they have won 6 in a row on the road.
How you can blame the Lions for Leshoure's freakish injury is beyond me.
The simple truth is at you do not like the Lions. You are too much in the possession of your prejudice to see that they have made great improvement at all levels. Too bad for you.
What stats am I looking at? Josh Freeman had a hell of a rookie year and Sanchez has taken his team to the playoffs multiple times. Stafford is Glass Joe from Punch Out and has lousy accuracy.
You think that the Lions would be better off with Mark Sanchez? Really? He is absolutely terrible. The Jets got to the playoffs in spite of him, not because of him.
and most DTs do not come into their own until their second or third seasons. There was not a DE who had the grade of Fairley at that point. So you basically wanted them to take an inferior player over a superior player. Sheer brilliance.
Robert Quinn was available at #13 overall. To suggest that he did not grade out as highly as Fairley is just plain ignorant. Add the facts that the Lions were already stacked at DT and their top DE is an aging veteran, and I don't think it's unfair to suggest the Lions made the wrong pick. Sorry, dude.
Let's hope history does not repeat itself.
I'd be perfectly okay if history repeated itself. I can't stand the Lions.
They are simply awful.
Behind the Colts AND Dolphins? I don't think they are that bad.
Tebow is almost totally ineffective as a passer. They also have very little talent on offense. Decker is a number three receiver, but in Denver he is a one. Defensively, they are poor.
As I write this Megatron scores.
...I can't believe the Lions are playing a game like this against a player that the media has annointed as one of the NFLs marquee stars.
10 years ago the Lions would've made Tebow look like a lock for the NFL HoF.
How about three?
At this point I just kind of feel bad for Denver fans.
I kinda feel bad for Tebow too. As bad as he is at throwing the football he's got straight trash at all skill positions. Denver is easily the least talented team in the league.
I'll feel sorry for them when they go on a 12 year playoff drought or go 0-16. Lions fans have been through it all.
I thought all he did was win......................
Good win for the Lions. 6-2 with some tough games left on the schedule. I think they'll make the playoffs this year.
Tebowing?.......more like Teblowing!
I was at the game, and I saw a "Fire Millen" sign. Just awesome...
This is why I stuck with and supported the Lions for all of those awful years, despite any ribbing that I received from people I knew...so that I could revel in their success - whenever it came - without the "bandwagon fan" label.
If they continue on this trajectory, the Lions will be a sustained force in the NFL for years to come. They just need to bolster that O-line...I'd love to see their ground game as good as their passing attack (though I'd simply take consistent performances from week-to-week).