OT: Lil Wayne Concert

Submitted by chris1709 on

it was an awsome concert and I saw morris and morgan there. Also I saw Draymond Green, im not sure if they were all together. All of young money was there, Rick Ross, Travis Barker, and Birdman were some of the big name guests, and of course nicki minaj.

YMCMB

TheOnlyVictors

April 3rd, 2011 at 3:57 AM ^

The account I'm on is negged to hell but this thread is valid  to my interests. I wanted to go to the Lupe concert but nobody I knew would go with me. If you think hip-hop is dead you think wrong... there is so much undiscovered music that is just so so great. Jay Electronica is fantastic- as another poster said. I reccomend a small duo from Seattle called KnowMads, or Tom Pepe (a member of KM). Odd Future (Wolf Gang Kill Them All) has been busting my speakers for weeks on end now as well.

bluebloggin

April 3rd, 2011 at 7:19 AM ^

If you honestly think hop hop is dead you dont listen.
<br>
<br>Try:
<br>The paxtons
<br>Gilbere forte
<br>J Cole
<br>Pill
<br>Freddie Gibbs
<br>Drake
<br>-those are all just up and coming. There are plenty who are still making good music, whether on mixtape or albums
<br>Em
<br>Jay
<br>Rae
<br>Ghostface
<br>Mos
<br>Talib
<br>

JimLahey

April 3rd, 2011 at 9:36 AM ^

I really wish I had seen this thread last night, this shit is right up my avenue. Some of those lists have glaring omissions. How is it possible to have a best producer list without DJ Premier on it? Or a best rapper list without Rakim? And all things considered, it's hard to say that Jay-Z isn't #1, he's been too good for too long. To me it goes
Jay-Z
Nas
Rakim
Biggie
Andre 3K

Producers:
DJ Premier
Dr Dre
RZA
Scott Storch (HA Just Kidding!)

Denarded

April 3rd, 2011 at 10:01 AM ^

Okay hip hop might not be in terms "dead" I just think it will never be the same as the 90's. In my opinion I think Big L would have been the greatest if he didn't die so early. His freestyles were the best I ever heard RIP Big L and all the rap greats that we lost.

JoeBlue18

April 3rd, 2011 at 10:24 AM ^

The reason people think hip hop is dead:

1. Waka Flocka Flame

2. Gucci Mane

3. Oj Da Juiceman

4. Lil B

5. Birdman (Laziest raps I've ever heard)

The reason there is still hope for hip hop:

1. Lupe Fiasco

2. Wale

3. Jay electronica

4. J. Cole

5. G.O.O.D. Music (Kanye, Common, Big Sean, ETC.)

G.O.A.T.

1. Nas

2. Notorious B.I.G.

3. Jay-z

4. Tupac

5. Snoop Dogg

cwood

April 3rd, 2011 at 10:38 AM ^

I agree mainstream hip hop is garbage but hip hop is not dead. The underground has never been better. Big Krit, Curren$y, Wale, OFWGKTA, Big Sean and Wiz have been putting out some really good music.

chris1709

April 3rd, 2011 at 10:45 AM ^

Lil Wayne doesn't get the respect he deserves, hes not in the top 10 all time but without a doubt hes up there as one of the biggest ever. Just becuase he does things a little different than the 90's doesnt mean he's not great. I think people can't recognize how good someone is in the moment.

Kennyvr1

April 3rd, 2011 at 11:15 AM ^

Respect from people who know real rap music. The Carter I and II are great albums. For me he (the Wayne that's not sippin sizurp) is in the second tier right behind Jay, Em, Big, and Pac. In no particular order for those four but they stand alone at the top. A lot of other dudes are in that second tier as well. But all of them have longevity. That's what is funny for me to see names like Lupe or Wale at the top of people's list. You have to be in the game for a minute before you can even be mentioned in the same breathe as Jay and Em and those dudes. And even then it's extremely difficult. Wayne has earned the right to be in that discussion for sure.

RickH

April 3rd, 2011 at 2:10 PM ^

notsureifsrs

Weezy's biggest song is undoubtly Lollipop.  Lyrics:

Okay, lil mama had a swag like mine

even wear her hair down her back like mine

i make her feel right when its wrong like lyin

Man, she ain never had a love like mine

n' man i aint never seen a ass like hers

and that pussy in my mouth had me at a loss fo words

told her to back it up like erp erp

and make that ass jump like shczerp shczerp

and thats when she said i lo-lo-look like a lollipop

 

How in the world you could even say those lyrics tell a story is mind boggling.  Plus, in my mind, I hate his voice (sounds like he has throat cancer).  Maybe some early stuff from him was good, but when someone continously claims to be the best ever and calls out people like Jay-Z, I can't take them seriously.  For all I know he has some mixtapes with great tracks, but that just means he sells out on his albums, which makes me lose the little respect I had for him.  Lil Wayne is a joke, and if you don't see that, you need to open your eyes.

 

Lupe's Words I Never Said:

I really think the war on terror is a bunch of bullshit

Just a poor excuse for you to use up all your bullets

How much money does it take to really make a full clip

9/11 building 7 did they really pull it

Uhh, And a bunch of other cover ups

Your childs future was the first to go with budget cuts

If you think that hurts then, wait here comes the uppercut

The school was garbage in the first place, thats on the up and up

Keep you at the bottom but tease you with the uppercrust

You get it then they move you so you never keeping up enough

If you turn on TV all you see’s a bunch of “what the f-cks”

Dude is dating so and so blabbering bout such and such

And that aint Jersey Shore, homie thats the news

And these the same people that supposed to be telling us the truth

Limbaugh is a racist, Glenn Beck is a racist

Gaza strip was getting bombed, Obama didn’t say shit

Thats why I aint vote for him, next one either

I’ma part of the problem, my problem is I’m peaceful

And I believe in the people.

 

Comparing these aren't even close.  One is obviously better, tells a message and speaks about what someone is about.  Hip hop and rap have a lot to do with beats, flow, and how well the song works in the end, but a huge part of how 'good' someone is depends on their message and what they're saying.  Lupe Fiasco gets extra points for knowing who he is and not conforming to the traditional scene of money and drugs, but to his own personal scene of skateboarding and anime.

Kennyvr1

April 3rd, 2011 at 4:17 PM ^

You must have come to the party quite late. Lil Wayne has been making music for quite a while. His most famous song by pop culture standards might be lollipop but to tru rap heads Wayne has put out great music. See The Carter I and The Carter II. Apparently you have a hard time listening to lyrics as well, as weezy said in the song best rapper alive, "I'm the best rapper alive, since the best rapper retired". Obviously referring to Hov, S.Carter, Jigga man, whatever you want to call him. Pay attention please. Why do you think Jay and Em have jumped on tracks with Wayne???????? Come on maaaaan.

RickH

April 3rd, 2011 at 7:09 PM ^

Since when do you have to be a 'tru rap head' to know when someone is good?  Name any great artist or band, I guarantee you didn't have to listen to certain tracks to claim they were great.  I stated I don't like Weezy for his voice to start, but his music in general doesn't help his cause for me.  I've heard enough Wayne to know I don't like him, and have never heard of a song with great lyrics (if you have one, please show me.  I could easily be wrong).  The fact that he doesn't have one lyrical story as a top, or even reletively known song, shows to me that he's doing it wrong.

I have a hard time listening to lyrics?

http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/lilwayne/bestrapperalive.html

He never says "since the best rapper retired" in that song.  He is obviously stating he's the best, which is laughable.  "Pay attention please".

Jay-Z and Eminem can make tracks with anyone they want, that doesn't mean anything at all. Eminem made a song with Rihanna, does that make her great too?

It just seems odd to me that the people who like the mainstream, dumb it down music, like Lil Wayne.  Maybe not causation, but there is certainly a correlation there.

So far I've seen no reason to change my mind on the subject really... He's terrible.  

FreetheFabFive

April 3rd, 2011 at 10:49 AM ^

I'm  curious to know how filled up the Palace was.  Me and a group of friends were going to go but when we found out tickets for the floor were $100+ and lower bowl was $90+ we bailed.  We couldn't justify getting lower bowl seats for damn near as much as we spent on floor tickets for Em and Jay Z.  I just really wanted to see Travis Barker do his thing again.  I'm not a huge Weezy fan. 

JimLahey

April 3rd, 2011 at 10:52 AM ^

Lil Wayne has some really good songs and verses, but he also produces some of the biggest shit sandwiches ever. Most of his verses are just filled with punch-lines. Sometimes the punch lines are good, sometimes awful, but that's what they are --punch lines. His raps don't near the complexity of Nas or Jay-Z or Andre 3K. I have no problem admitting that Birdman Jr is pretty good, but he's nowhere near the level of those I just mentioned.

JimLahey

April 3rd, 2011 at 11:05 AM ^

True that man, I agree. I listen to lots of Lil Wayne, he's better than most grumpy old hip hop heads give him credit for. He's good for the type of rap he does.

Kal

April 3rd, 2011 at 11:59 AM ^

I don't understand why people click threads about things they don't like solely to tell people they don't like it. You know what I don't like ? Your screen name, because Big Blue refers to Kentucky, not Michigan. Go piss and moan on a Wildcat forum.

dennisblundon

April 3rd, 2011 at 1:10 PM ^

This poster is like many of my friends who ask why I listen to that music and then have me bring my Ipod to cook outs and make playlists for their wedding. Hypocrisy knows no bounds.

Tim Waymen

April 3rd, 2011 at 1:59 PM ^

I'm a hip-hop head who worships at the alters of Nas and the Wu and despises Lil Wayne, Nicki Minaj, and Rick Ross, but if you enjoy their music, then by all means you should listen to it.

Brewcityitalian

April 3rd, 2011 at 4:11 PM ^

Today's rap for the most part is garbage

I miss the golden era of hip hop

Lil wayne and all the commerical rap is such BS !

they cannot even actually rap, much less put together a decent verse.

Master P and Diddy destroyed hip hop !