EDIT: Downvoted for upvoting your own OP, not anything content-related.
EDIT: Downvoted for upvoting your own OP, not anything content-related.
How have I not managed to see this before. It's perfect. Cronenberg + Kelly = Asplode?
I cannot wait for the GameDay signs
If you think Manti is lying say i.
are intrinsically full of sushi.
Jose Black Tequila & Diet right now. I'm drinking until I find her.
Is this even my wife??? Where am I?
This is not my beautiful wife! This is not my beautiful house!
I wish there was an upvote option of "heroism."
to help me make sense of what just happened today with Notre Dame, Teo and Look At Me Aahhhhhhh!
he kept lying in the lead up to the NC game in order to cover up his previous lies. considering that ND had stepped in at that point, it's reasonable to specualate that ND ordered the cover up not to cause a distraction before the NC game. from the school that refused to properly investigate rape by football players, this is truly disgusting.
Don't forget that one.
Holy crap just read the deadspin article. WTF!
I dont know if I'm being stupid, but can someone explain to me how you get Lukkemeyaa out of Lenny Kekau by changing the two n's to one m. I'm confused by the post. Can someone explain it?
If you went to UConn of course you're being stupid.
Just had surgery and have pain meds in me, not as sharp as I should be right now. Salutatorian of my graduating class so I'm on full scholarship here being in state. Guarantee you I'm smarter than you are. Also we're a top 20 national public school so its better than you think.
Look the above comment that was made to you was douchey, but this one is just as bad. This isn't an Epeen IQ contest.
than me, but my dad can beat up your dad.
Posting "Guarantee I'm smarter than you are" on the internet. Seems legit.
Hey, if you want me to take a dump in a box and mark it guaranteed, I will. I've got time.
Ya figure you put that little box under your pillow at night, the Guarantee Fairy might come by and leave a quarter, am I right?
How do you know the fairy isn't a crazy glue sniffer? "Building model airplanes" says the little fairy; well, we're not buying it. The next thing you know, there's money missing off the dresser, and your daughter's knocked up. I seen it a hundred times.
Well you can't post stuff on the internet that isn't true.
I think Lennay was a French model...French Samoan model??? I don't know anymore!!!
And you are quite humble, too.
smart one has to be to know it is a tactical error to tell us how smart you are.
What if it's done in this manner:
"I know I'm about as smart as a box of hammers."
smart hammers into account.
Everyone I'm sorry the post from before was very douchey. I'm sorry I said it but in my defense I just had a pretty serious knee surgery yesterday that essentially ended my collegiate lacrosse career and everything has been setting me off lately. I really am not that big of a douche in person.
I'm also on pain meds for knee surgery, although yours is definitely worse than mine. Keep your head up, this place can be great for distracting/providing some kind of support network at times.
Also, you'll probably never convince DreisbachTurnerOverdrive that anything UConn is good. Take a look at his avatar and you'll get where his first reply to you was coming from.
That means a lot to me. I didnt realize he was a Syracuse guy, that makes sense now. I tore my ACL MCL PCL and meniscus with it being the second time I tore my ACL in the same knee. This board means a lot to me because I would more than half of my time on the internet is spent reading mgoblog and following michigan football recruiting, I'm here everyday. I've been an avid reader for over five years but only recently created an account.
Hang in there man. I did the same thing when I was a youngin' back in '02. I was a Junior in college and quit the lacrosse team after the surgery. It killed me. All I can recommend is to stay active with extracurricular activities. I just partied and feel like I lost out on some good "memorable" times.
Just rearrange the letters.
If you change the thing, then it's something different
Nuke Any Leak
(no letter substitution required Ghost)
Or you get Nuke Lenay K., so they were planning on killing her from the start.
Did you create that spoof? If so, you sir win the Internet. That is f'ing awesome.
Nope. It's making the rounds on twitter. @cuppycup of Good Bull Hunting, the Texas A&M SBNation blog, made it. So props to him.
That is amazing. Looking forward to LSUFreeks take on it.
Best gif yet on this whole mess.
"The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist."
And like that, poof, he's gone
That is all.
is RDT. Same MO and they will find him/her living in a small town 100 or so miles north of South Bend.
Is the best explanation I have read so far.
Maybe if you would have gone to Stanford like me you would be better at spelling my name correctly.
Your dead. Or at least you used to be dead so I'm pretty sure you have little to add to this conversation right now seeing how your dead and all.
If I'm dead how did I call Manti on December 26th? He still loves me and we're getting back together. You'll see.
this account. Strong work.
E-FACT: Manti and I met on Haloscan.
This is funny, but given that that's a picture of a real person (whose image was used apparently without her consent), I don't think you should use it as your avatar.
Whatever, Reba. You're just jealous because Manti is with me and not you.
As some wag on Deadspin said. . .
Atleast block her eyes out or something....
It's called the internet. Nothing is yours.
Yeah right. You can't even stay dead which I've heard is about the easiest thing for a person to do and you think you're going to make marriage work?
Sorry, but I give this profile 5 FAKES out of 5.
Maybe you ARE Ace!
This internet is a confusing place.
All I know is that this probably brightens up Brian, and every Michigan fans day after the bad weekend.
Not sure whether I am participating in schadenfreude or not, but this story is so bizarre that I am trying to read everything about it.
Ok something I just thought of....
I was thinking Te'o was in on it.
BUT... If he was, why would he even go to Swarbrick about the phone call? Swarbrick didn't call Te'o in, Te'o approached him.
At that point the hoax had been a success.... If Te'o was in on it, what's the play, by going to Swarbrick at that point? If Te'o was in on it, he had absolutely nothing to gain by going to Swarbrick....
Unless... Either Te'o caught wind of the Deadpsin story developing (I don't know how) and went to Swarbrick as pre-emptive cover, or, Swarbrick caught wind of the deadspin story and called Te'o in and changed the narrative in the press conference saying that Te'o came to him.
One thing I do know is either way, Te'o comes out of this looking awful. He is either immensely, immensely naive, or a manipulator of sociopathic proportions. And if there was a cover-up and he was in on it, who else knew? His family? Kelly? Swarbrick? If any/all of them caught wind of what was going on, they certainly have motive to participate in a cover up.
This whole thing is just so mind-blowing. So much to think about and I'm a sucker for a good mystery.
In any case, there's a special edition of Catfish in Te'o's future, since he either got Catfished or IS a Catfish.
I would guess that Notre Dame knew something was brewing for a time and DeadSpin forced their hand.
I don't really believe Notre Dame's version of events at all, however, so take that for what you will.
I'm guessing that Teo and his friend made the girlfriend up to appease his family for some reason, and as the family started asking questions, they developed more and more elaborate ruses to satisfy the parents' inquiries, the whole thing started spinning out of control, so they made the dumb move of having her die, in an attempt to get out of the lie without consequences, but someone in the family talked to reporters about the relationship and death, making the whole thing public. An elaborate lie to appease a nosy parent that spun out of control makes a lot more sense than almost anything else. But of course if that is true, he's lying through his teeth right now and ND is covering its ass by not really investigating and just being happy with a Teo lie because its the most convenient for them.
for me this just isn't that big a deal...At worst the kud lied and at best he got duped. L just don't see the big deal, nor do I see why people on this site are getting so outraged by it. if he was a UM player I may be more concerned, but to me, either scenario just doesn't get me too upset. The fact is some people choose to lie for reasons that rarelymake any sense to me. Also, lots of people who I would bet are far smarter than Manti T'eo have fallen victim to internet scams of one form or other. Both of these seem at least possible and neither one fills me with any outrage whatsoever. If it wad a UM player I'd feel bad for them but as it isn't...I'm pretty ambivalent about the whole situation.
It's not the biggest scandal in the world, but if "Reba" really had her photos used without permission to create this fake girlfriend, I feel pretty bad for her.
Also, if he wasn't in on it, how did he never see her at all through the at least 2 years he was supposedly dating this girl? 2 years is a very long time to be with someone and never see them on either Skype or for normal people in person. So strange...
I've been dating this amazing model for almost two years now, but she is really busy being a model so we haven't had time to meet in person.
Two years and you haven't met? Either she's really a man or some obese woman pretending to be a model. How do you "date" someone for 2 years, but never meet???
If you have gone two years without seeing this "amazing" model in person, I have to believe that you're one ugly dude who is desparate to have someone "beautiful", even if you never actually get to see her in person to touch her, hug her, kiss her..
Something really fishy about that.
Models are super busy being models all the time, so that is why we haven't met. She likes that I don't care about how I look or how much I weigh, and loves how family oriented I am, since I still live with my parents. What we have is true love.
good sir. I hope anyway.
his joke --------> up here
your head -------> down here
EDIT: unless your response was also a joke and not serious, in which case this applies to me.
According to Deadspin they MET at a Stanford football game. He even said in an interview on ESPN recently that she was "the most beautiful person I'd ever met." This dude is so full of shit I can't even believe he's trying to deny this.
A new theory I'm hearing is that he and Tuiasisopo (sp?) were gay together, which I can honestly see being the case. But I really think it started as a little white lie and escalated into something he couldn't control, so he decided to just keep going with it because he wanted some Heisman pub. Te'o is now my absolute least favorite player and I hope that jackass goes undrafted (un-possible, but I can dream). He's still gonna lose a shit ton of money either way.
This has to be it. He's gay and didn't want people to know. That part I don't blame him for.
The part about him making up a fake gf, I kinda get that too. Making up that she died and crying about it on TV? That makes you a super asshole.
two dollars and thirty cents, or hope for his sake that that's the case. I'd say it's all pretty entertaining and no one got killed, or at least we think so.
EDIT: Actually, if the subtext is that he's gay and made the whole thing up as some kind of elaborate dodge then. . . tragic; I take back my comment. Hope if that is the case and no one has really suffered everyone can move on quickly. The kid is going to carry this one for the rest of his life.
I thought someone misspelled "Lanai", this fictitious girl friend coulda been called "veranda", sounds like a womans name as well.
The whole thing seems lame and creepy/stalky and why did Manti go on about it in interviews, makes him seem pretty dumb or dishonest, neither one is a good trait.
More like he is lonely, socially awkward, and immature. I hope people and the media lay off him, so his parents and the ND folks can deal with this constructively. This kind of humiliation can destroy a young person.
He's the supposed leader of a National Championship contending football team. When you think of leaders, you don't think: lonely, socially awkward and immature. He soaked up and played the media on this story over and over (he sure wasn't awkward then). He may have been pushed to do so, but that doesn't matter. The "kid" isn't 12--he's an adult who made the decision to either "make up a fake girlfriend's death from leukemia and play the hero in the face of cancer card" or at the very least "let an online relationship escalate in the media to this love story full of embellishments." He could have stopped this many times. He chose not to for either personal gain or due to very poor decision making. It's hard to have a lot of sympathy for him.
You mean all the prettiest imaginary girls
I have concluded that there is only one reasonable explaination for this...
Manti Te'o is Kip Dynamite.
Can someone put Manti's head on this GIF? Chunkums? Someone?
I have no idea why, but I cannot stop reading about this story. When I got up this morning the first thing I did was hop on the Internet to see f there was some explanation. It is just insane.
I had to force myself to go to sleep because I had read the same information over and over. I figured if I went to sleep the 5 hours that passed might bring new info.
and was up til 1am reading about this story. I am absolutely riveted by the magnitude of this train wreck.
Fake girlfriends are a dime a dozen. Dead fake girlfriends are worth a lot more.
I heard Lennay was good friends with Fawn Leibowitz
It just hit me! Manti isn't gay but rather a very smart playa. Emphasis on the a. He is trying to get the time honored sympathy fuck. Well played Manti, well played.
I just can't make any sense out of this bizarre story. Manti's press conference should be interesting, but I really want to know more about the "Lennay Kekau" that some current NFL players are also claiming to have met through their charity involvement. This is all just too weird for me.
I was listening to Steve Czaban on my way into work this morning and he was openly speculating that Manti is a homosexual and created the entire thing as a cover since he's at a Catholic university and that's when I realized this was going to get massively ugly quickly.
If he is gay I would bet his own family, faith, football culture and NFL aspirations would have as much, if not more to do with his discomfort in coming out than the university he attended.
Not only is he at a super religious college, but also comes from a super strict religion in regards to homosexuality. Throw in the stigma it sounds like there is in the football world and it adds up pretty quick.
There might have been a time when "super religious college" was an apt description of ND, but certainly not in the past 50 years.
I'm guessing being a Mormon and the football culture (or sports culture) in regards to being gay is probably the bigger issues for him. It just makes a lot more sense than the naive explanation.
I said that last night, that this was compensating for something else big - like that he's gay.
In this era of wild, unsubstantiated (and irresponsible) speculation that's what I'm putting my money on.
If this is a cover largely for his Mormon parents why did his parents say they had talked to him. That's the only part of this story that gives me pause
At this point I'm split between two options.
Manti Te'o is gay, and this was an elborate cover up to explain why the super star ND player wasn't hooking up with any girls or didn't have a girlfriend. Maybe they broke up and it wasn't mutual, so he had to "kill her off" to prevent this Tuiasosopo guy from continuing to contact him on Twitter without drawing attention to himself (seeing as he is also a Mormon and works in the church).
Manti Te'o is the greatest rube of all time. Which, at this point, is seeming more and more plausible. Still, that ND press conference reeked of, "We're making this shit up as we go along, and we have no idea what's really going on but we are backing our guy 100%."
Edit: I also have no idea about ND's "student code of conduct" that people are suddenly bringing up. Is being gay grounds for getting booted out of Notre Dame? I should hope/think not.
Double Edit: I looked it up, and you can totally be gay at ND.
Was listening to local radio in DC. They interviewed a guy who just played at Delaware, who had played with Manti from 7th grade to sophomore year...
Manti lived about an hour away from their school. Manti told everyone he had a girlfriend back home, so no one on that team had ever met her.
Only one thing comes to mind....
Manti's gay and is covering it up.
Not that there's anything wrong with it!
Yeah, then there is this:
If no further "truth" comes out in media, we can deduce what happened just by his draft position, Since no team is going to touch him without fully investigating him.
If he goes in the first round, he was just a victim - being naïve is not going to bother teams.
If he goes in 2nd or 3rd round, NFL does not believe his story, and they are wary of his character
If he goes any later than that, teams think he is gay and will be worried about what would happen in the locker room.
If the reason he was drafted in late rounds had to do with him being gay. I'd hope that the second scenario would be a bigger red flag than liking dudes. If so, it makes a lot of sense why he would go to such lengths to hide it
This is the NFL, where a guy who at the very least stayed silent and did not cooperate with a murder investigation is going on a farewell tour and covered like he is going out a conquering hero. Being shady is not that big of a deal.
Wouldn't his Mormonism be a perfectly good/acceptable "cover" for not having a girlfriend or not hooking up with girls?
This story is almost as good as when the Tiger story first broke out.
Normally I'm not a rubber necker at all, but I just can't seem to look away from this one. So many angles to go with it, so much win.
of that scene in the movie "Breakfast Club" where the nerd talks about his girlfriend from Niagra Falls.......
Most outlets are now peddling the "Manti seems to be duped" party line. Sure, let ND strong arm the media.
If the umpteen original stories prove anything it's simply that Manti is NOT a reliable source. (Manti lied on numerous occasions about meeting and family matters; as did his dad).
They better dig and actually conduct basic journalism to recover a shred of dignity.
Timothy Burke, the editor at Deadspin that broke the story, is interviewing on CNN as I type this. Let's just say he is being a total skeptic of Teo's version of "I'm just an airhead/dumb jock".
So now we know why we haven't seen Irish lately.
EDIT: This doesn't even make sense. Oh well.
If Teo' s version is true, I know this really swell Nigerian prince who can make him the big bucks. All I need is his email address and/or bank account and we can get the ball rolling!
How is it that not one acquaintance, co-worker, roommate, friend, or family member of the girl in the co-opted photographs happened to see her picture all over the news in September? Wouldn't someone have seen this story and said "uh... that girl ain't named Lennay, she isn't Manti Te'o's girlfriend, and she's definitely not dead"?
At least if MY picture showed up on the news as being romantically linked to a football player, and also dead, I'd kinda hope one of my buds would do me a solid and forward a link with the subject "for your immediate review."
They'd make a meme of you and you'd be an internet sensation by the next morning.
Well I think this takes away all chances of teo being on NCAA 14 cover.
It is a online/video game after all. Maybe they can license the girl's image (the HS girl in CA) so the real victim gets some cash from the whole mess.
Perhaps, but he WILL be highly sought after by NFL fantasy team owners.
In case you dont remember Teo told many stories about this girlfriend including
actual face to face scenarios...NOW its all a hoax????? hes LYING through his teeth
an ND...Kelly..the AD and the school are trying to Coiver up for him..it wasnt a Hoax
perpetuated against him it was a fabricated Story by Him and ND in order to Gin up
emotion to win FB games. or cover something else up...DISGUSTING
This would be more convincing if that was at all close to how leukemia was spelled
That's what he's trying to say.
You think it's a coincidence that the name rearranged is phonetically extremely close to leukemia?
Anyone read Pat Forde's article on this. I guess naivety about Notre Dame is more contagious than the flu epidemic. Go read it for a laugh.
on this wonderful ND tire fire but . .
Honestly, how much must it suck to be an ND player right now.
None of these kids signed up for this media shitstorm.
1. Purple faced screaming douche as a coach.
2. Screaming douche partly culpable in negligent death of assistant.
3. Teammate accused of rape, players & admin accused of intimidation/coverup, then victim comits suicide. Ugly situation regardless of facts.
4. Humiliating loss in championship after overrated cinderella season.
5. Purple douche (who is tolerated because of coaching prowes) flirts with NFL.
6. Inspirational heisman-worthy teammate appears to be a complete fraud.
I love that this happened to the the ND fanbase, and the administration, but I wouldn't wish a fraction of this shit on any 17-21 yr old.
When you sign up to play for Notre Dame, aren't you more or less agreeing to a blanket, omnibus media shitstorm? It's like dating Lindsey Lohan and griping about all the chaos and papparazzi.
Every recruit should know that ND has a history of hiring idiots & assholes to be their head coaches. They often leave, or get fired quickly after unrealistic expectations, so you never know who you might be playing for. Accidents also happen, and sex/crime scandals even crop up every few years at some level.
But THIS? from your Heisman-hyped teammate? Straw, meet camel's back.
Most of these players are quality kids who were heavily recruited by Michigan as well.
they played for a NC (and lost, but it's better than losing in the Outback Bowl). Also, ND has a top 10 recruiting class and doesn't have mass defections, so their players like their coach.
If you are an NFL GM, do you use a first round draft pick on Teo right now?
the story will have calmed down by draft day, and all the facts will be out by then. he might slip a couple spots, but he'll still go first round. if Ricky Williams and Randy Moss can go first round, so can Te'o. Especially if it turns out that the he's covering for being gay theory is the true one, then that will wash away his actions and someone will take him.
I know some Bears fans that are hoping he'll fall to #20 so they can draft him to replace Urlacher.
Hard to say. If I was a GM, I'd still rely on my scouting team's evaluation of him as a player, then I'd use interviews to form my opinion of him as a person. If my scouting team says he's worthy of a first-round pick, I think the only thing that would prevent me from taking him in the first round would be if it turns out that he was involved in the whole ruse. I wouldn't want that sort of dishonesty/deception in my organization. Otherwise, I'd be willing to look past all this in order to bolster my defense.
Definitely agree here.
I think this to some extent raises some interesting issues with him... he's either the most naive person in the world (which now everyone knows and consequently he will need even more help managing his transition to being suddenly very wealthy) or he's a sociopathic liar.
If the former, I think a team would still be willing to take him (but if I were the GM I would definitely want him to have a good support network in place so he doesn't fall for anymore crap and bring drama into the lockerroom). If the latter and it turns out he made this whole thing up, then I wouldn't want him.
I think either way he slips from current projections (around 8) down to 15 or so.
He might not have been a first round pick before this. He had a really bad championship game.
I don't want to give him any excuses because he really did have a bad game and Alabama definitely beat him up... but, in hindsight, do you expect someone to perform at their peak when their whole world is crashing down on them (in terms of either learning he has been a victim of a huge hoax or realizing all his lies are about to come out)?
everytime he finds out his dead girlfriend is fake then he's a 3rd round pick at best.
Really it depends on what the media digs up on the next week or so. As it stands though, Teo's is trending in the Terrell Owens direction, talented but with baggage that isn't worth the talent. Plus the NC game dinged the talented part as well a bit. I'd be inclined to consider other options via the draft or free agency myself.
As soon as the media gets to this guy named, and forgive my spelling attempt of the name, but his name is Tuiossosopo. It's been reported Te'o has a friendship with him. How extensive us debated but a friendship none the less. Damn this is the best reading since War and Peace.
has said he interviewed her in person.
Is she one of the five?
Louise Karkrash Keymeia
As others have said, the smart money is on a homosexuality coverup. It is just ashame that he feels the need to do that. Be it due to family pressure, religious pressure, or the fact gay is not all that well accepted in the NFL. If it isn't that, he's either a soulless PR seeking con man or ND is clearly making admissions exceptions to let morons in.
Personally I hope Te'o is coming clean with his friends and family right now and they'll accept him and be willing to help move past the fact he lied to the entire nation.
Also NDNation is hilarious right now, they're all screaming how Te'o was part of a con without pausing to think how bad that makes the school look to have a student fall for such a con.
If he is gay (and that is a big "if"), this entire story can easily be spun to make Manti a sympathetic figure. I don't think anyone would blame him for attempting to cover up this fact about himself given the nature of the sports world, particularly a football locker room (Edit: Not to mention his religion). Everything he has done up to this point would make total sense in light of such a revelation.
And, hey, If he played his cards right he could be the Jackie Robinson of gay athletes, turning this into one of the all time great sports stories.
Yeah, the whole gay thing is conjecture, but it's better than being dumb enough to get duped for 4 years or being a con man. Gay is the only way he comes out without being scum or the laughing stock.
My other fear is that given the other actor in here was a pastor, this whole thing was some weird pray away the gay thing that got really weird and out of control.
Has the situation deteriorated so badly that, in light of all the other possible explanations, he actually ends up pretending to BE gay because it's the only way that he DOESN'T take a worse hit as far as P.R. goes?
He becomes the Jack Tripper of the NFL ("Three's Company" reference, for anyone born after say, 1975).
Is it too much to hope that right now in Ann Arbor there is a group of barely-talented punk musicians (apologies for the redundancy) changing their band's name to The Dead Fake Girlfriends?
I just got an email ad from Spirit Airlines with the title "No Hoax Here...We Are Catfish Approved".
The NYT references DeadSpin. ND has a press conference. The fake girl is putting out a press release.
And the Mad Men assume everybody is in on the joke...
This is the most amazing media blow up ever.
the MSM outlets who regurgitated the lies over the past year will STFU while Deadspin continues their investigation. The fact that CBS This Morning posted a woman's picture without her consent or knowledge is horrifying. Could happen to any of us when such weak journalistic ethics are present. Scary. I feel sorry for her. Te'o looks very bad in this still evolving story.
If he is gay, I wonder if the Fake Girlfriend tried to blackmail him for it.
"Hey! I will totally help you cover being gay!"
"Hey! I hear you are about to make millions of dollars! Still interested in nobody knowing you are gay?"
Sucks to be Manti. If gay, just be up front about it man. People will respect that. And F those that don't.
I had an imaginary friend when I was three!
Didn't die though..... I think....