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OT: Laquon Treadwell's commitment to Ole Miss makes more sense now
January 29th, 2013 at 3:09 PM
#1
OT: Laquon Treadwell's commitment to Ole Miss makes more sense now
January 29th, 2013 at 3:10 PM
#2
That wouldn't happen in the
That wouldn't happen in the SEC. Don't be ridiculous.
January 29th, 2013 at 3:12 PM
#3
I know right?! Oh stop it you
I know right?! Oh stop it you silly goose!
January 29th, 2013 at 5:46 PM
#4
Gosh, I would never expect this
Especially from Ole Miss
January 29th, 2013 at 3:11 PM
#5
Let it go man
Just let it go.
January 29th, 2013 at 3:13 PM
#6
this is thread worthy for any
this is thread worthy for any 5 star recruit, regardless of their former interest in michigan
January 29th, 2013 at 3:35 PM
#7
Don't know why this was
Don't know why this was downvoted. It's a huge stretch to assume that the kid was bought based on a photo of a few benjamins and a hand, which may or may not be his.
The kid's not coming. We'll be alright. Move on and forget about him.
January 29th, 2013 at 3:47 PM
#8
Someone on the 247sports
Someone on the 247sports board posted a picture he took of his championship ring. It matches the one in the picture.
January 29th, 2013 at 3:44 PM
#9
We should all be better
We can't just let it go, or kids in the future will think it is right to post pics of themselves "making it rain" with "Benji's." Even if this money is not football related, this young man needs to understand he looks ignorant among other things due to this picture. I feel like there is only man who could say this better than I did. Well maybe there are others, but he would be the best.
His name is....
~Herm
January 29th, 2013 at 4:46 PM
#10
News flash, Herm is not a
News flash, Herm is not a real person.
January 29th, 2013 at 4:50 PM
#11
You shut your whore mouth.
You shut your whore mouth.
January 29th, 2013 at 4:55 PM
#12
Sorry TIMMMAAY
David From Wyoming is right:
http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/michigan-v-south-carolina-outback-bowl#comme...
January 29th, 2013 at 5:42 PM
#13
I've been fooled twice. Just
I've been fooled twice. Just don't understand anyone wasting so much time pretending to be someone else.
Maybe I should come clean...I'm not really Elmer Fudd. Whew...feels good to get that out there.
January 29th, 2013 at 5:49 PM
#14
Well, ultimately, ChopBlock
Well, ultimately, ChopBlock probably isn't a person named ChopBlock, so it's a pseudonym masquerading as a new pseudonym.
January 30th, 2013 at 5:36 PM
#16
Eh
I don't actually believe Herm is real, he's just too fake old person-y. Not sure if that comment really "outed" him though...
January 29th, 2013 at 3:11 PM
#17
Rule #1: Once on the
Rule #1: Once on the interwebs. Always on the interwebs.
January 29th, 2013 at 3:11 PM
#18
Mark Emmert
Mark Emmert: please pick up the courtesy phone...
January 29th, 2013 at 3:11 PM
#19
Why would he post something
Why would he post something like that! I think we might have dodged a (Terrelle Pryor type) bullet here
January 29th, 2013 at 3:16 PM
#20
Either that or...
a freshman who leaves the program during Summer camp citing "lack of family values" that he didn't get his allowance from his folks.
January 29th, 2013 at 3:13 PM
#21
Not quite as much as Mike
Not quite as much as Mike Bellemy though
January 29th, 2013 at 3:19 PM
#22
Truth
January 29th, 2013 at 3:34 PM
#23
In need of enlightenment
In need of enlightenment here: who is that and is that a real pic?
January 29th, 2013 at 3:41 PM
#24
That is Mike Bellemy, a five
That is Mike Bellemy, a five star RB out if Florida who signed with Clemson 2? years ago. And yes, it is real. No I don't know exactly the story behind the picture, but it did cause a stir. He is no longer with the Clemson program.
January 29th, 2013 at 3:41 PM
#25
Mike Bellamy, former Clemson
Mike Bellamy, former Clemson RB (transferred to a JUCO school)...and yes, it is a real pic.
http://sportstalkgolive.com/index.php/2011/06/09/mike-bellamy-cash-photo...
January 29th, 2013 at 3:46 PM
#26
it's
Grandma's money!
January 29th, 2013 at 3:13 PM
#27
Yeahhh, regardless of where
Yeahhh, regardless of where that money came from, that probably wasn't a very smart thing for him to do.
January 29th, 2013 at 3:14 PM
#28
It's not 100% related to his
It's not 100% related to his college choice, but this does make me feel better. Two things come to mind here: 1. Taking money is not good, obviously. 2. How did he think it was a good idea to post this on twitter ever.
January 29th, 2013 at 3:15 PM
#29
That could be any black guys
That could be any black guys hand! Cam Newton, Mark Ingram, The honey badger, Jordan Diamond etc etc.
/s
January 29th, 2013 at 3:15 PM
#30
Maybe he has a paper route?
Maybe he has a paper route?
January 29th, 2013 at 5:40 PM
#31
He certainly
Had some papers routed...
January 29th, 2013 at 3:15 PM
#32
I'll never understand the
I'll never understand the appeal of taking pictures with money
January 29th, 2013 at 3:48 PM
#33
Exactly.
A rich man doesn't
Exactly.
A rich man doesn't need to tell you he's rich.
January 29th, 2013 at 4:29 PM
#34
The richest person
I have ever known personally, drove a Buick Century (well, 2 actually) for 13 of the 20 years my parents worked for her. She is worth a few hundred million dollars. In my experience, rich people dont want anyone to know they are rich. They don't want to become a target
January 29th, 2013 at 4:53 PM
#35
I drove an '88 Buick Century
I drove an '88 Buick Century in high school, and it was BALLER. I could even beat my buddy's '89 LeSabre in a drag race. Ain't nothing that says high roller like a goddamned Century.
January 29th, 2013 at 5:42 PM
#36
I call BS on beating that LeSabre
My LeSabre (87, but the same block & most components) could take all comers!
That actually isn't entirely a lie, either. That's the same block they built the Gand National on, so it had some power. Great sleeper.
January 29th, 2013 at 6:00 PM
#37
Certainly would have
blownboth doors of my 78 Cutlass. Had a 305 in it, but was only rated at about 140 HP. Went from 0-60 eventually. The late 70's Caprice/Cutlass/Regals were grossly underpowered. 10 MPG too.
And still, I loved that car.
January 29th, 2013 at 6:28 PM
#38
Ah...
The Gutless Cutlass. My parents owned one. Then they bought another, a wagon. They still don't know why they did that.
January 29th, 2013 at 6:02 PM
#39
This story really doesn't
This story really doesn't have a point . Many people that are really rich also drive mercedes and ferrari's, but your correct that some drive normal cars as well (but that isn't really saying much...)
January 29th, 2013 at 4:00 PM
#40
My guess
It makes it much easier to remember a time when you had it after you've blown it all on stupid stuff.
January 29th, 2013 at 5:09 PM
#41
Re: $ Pics
Funny thing is that there are 3x $100s, the back of a $5 bill visible at the top and maybe a few others beneath that in Treadwell's pic. That's $305 plus some unknown other stuff that may or may not be $1s or $100s or nothing.
Post a pic of a few 100s in cash and you can pretend you're a baller. But if you told the ladies you had $305 in your checking account you can be sure that no one is mistaking you for Jay Z. Something weird to kids about cash money.
January 29th, 2013 at 5:44 PM
#42
That's because you ain't gangsta.
January 29th, 2013 at 6:06 PM
#43
Only if you took it out of a dead man's pockets.
And you made him dead.
January 29th, 2013 at 3:15 PM
#44
Seems like a dumb thing to
Seems like a dumb thing to do...like committing to Ole Miss in the first place.
January 29th, 2013 at 3:15 PM
#45
HE GOT HACKED
That happens all the time, I hear.
January 29th, 2013 at 3:16 PM
#46
I thought I heard talk one of
I thought I heard talk one of the big problems with him and Michigan were his grades + standifer. Obvi this makes a bit of sense too
January 29th, 2013 at 3:17 PM
#47
We don't know what that means
I mean, he's got at least $305 there. (the top most bill is a 5). To quote my cousin Vinny (from memory) "How do I know that's not a roll of ones with a 20 on the outside?"
January 29th, 2013 at 3:21 PM
#48
Ole Miss boosters must be
Ole Miss boosters must be stingy bastards. "Come to our school and we'll give you at LEAST $305"
January 29th, 2013 at 4:02 PM
#49
Ole Miss booster: "Laquon, I
Ole Miss booster: "Laquon, I will give you $300 to come to Ole Miss. THREE HUNDRED DOLLARS!"
Laquon: "Bro. I am a 5 star WR, that's it?"
Ole Miss booster "....$305?"
January 29th, 2013 at 3:23 PM
#50
Yeah, I think if he had more
Yeah, I think if he had more 100 dollar bills they would be more prominent. I think it's odd when people post pictures like this but I wouldn't start making assumptions on where it came from. He’s still in high school so there’s no need to make assumptions about his character.
January 29th, 2013 at 3:20 PM
#51
At first I thought
He'd be too dumb if he got the money from a school, then I realized he's probably high. Wake and bake son
January 29th, 2013 at 3:21 PM
#52
Mo Money, Mo Problems.
Mo Money, Mo Problems.
January 29th, 2013 at 3:23 PM
#53
I love that song
and video. Brings back some good memories with friends
January 29th, 2013 at 3:20 PM
#54
When you come from the hood
When you come from the hood its hard to turn down green. We got Morris and some REAL Green, no wonder the coaches stopped recruiting him. Guess we dont want to send bags of money to Illinois. Reminds me of:
January 29th, 2013 at 3:24 PM
#55
srsly
You don't go to Ol' Miss because you hope to be a Nobel prize-winning astrophysicist and peace activist and an NFL player someday.
Of course, you also don't go for the reason that Ol' Miss is an NFL-wideout factory that has produced multiple all-pro WR's. Because, like, you know, it isn't.
So, a guy like Quon goes because, well... caysh.
January 29th, 2013 at 3:28 PM
#56
But they had mike Wallace
But they had mike Wallace !!!!1!1!1!111!!!!!one!!1
January 29th, 2013 at 3:25 PM
#57
Interesting
I'm still convinced that Treadwell would have ended up here but the coaches stopped recruiting him for some reason....maybe this has something to do with it.
January 29th, 2013 at 3:26 PM
#58
TomVH posted
on the Wolverines message board that he knew for a fact they kept recruiting him despite what he said.
January 29th, 2013 at 3:33 PM
#59
Hmmm
How much did they really recruit him though? I don't believe I heard about Treadwell getting an in home with the coaches when every other recruit they were seriously after did get one.
January 29th, 2013 at 3:46 PM
#60
It would be really cool if
It would be really cool if Hoke just took a running start and broke down the front door of the Treadwells' house, but unfortunately, things don't work that way. The family actually has to agree to let the coach in the house. It's a two-way street. If Treadwell wasn't interested in going to Michigan by that point, he would have no reason to waste 2 or 3 hours entertaining Michigan's coaching staff.
January 29th, 2013 at 3:25 PM
#61
Wanted: A Wolverine Who Will Tosh Back
Thing that would be awesome: If we could get one of the recently graduated seniors to flash his degree in resonse.
January 29th, 2013 at 3:52 PM
#62
Tosh.0 had a perfect
Tosh.0 had a perfect response
January 29th, 2013 at 3:26 PM
#65
Why not focus
On kids who play for Michigan?
January 29th, 2013 at 3:38 PM
#66
So no more Derrick Green
So no more Derrick Green threads (or threads about ANY recruits for that matter) since he doesn't (yet) play for Michigan, right?
January 29th, 2013 at 3:27 PM
#67
I'm not trying to be funny...
but what has he got there...50 dollars? I can see what someone might think seeing that tweet, but that is one small stack of cash. Unless it's a stack of thousand dollar bills it isn't much to brag about. Still...the mentality of a college athlete (or soon to be) to take a picture of a stack of money (no matter the size) begs the question of how smart he really is. It doesn't take much of a leap for someone to assume it is related to the decision he recently made to attend a certain university (whether that is actually the case or not).
January 29th, 2013 at 3:40 PM
#68
Ok
I'm not saying anything illegal is going on, it could all be his own hard earned cash, but don't say $50 when $300 is clearly visible plus a stack of bills below it. Looks awfully fishy to me and the fact that it was deleted soon after only adds to my skepticism.
January 29th, 2013 at 3:51 PM
#69
The only thing that I can
The only thing that I can think of is that he realized how bad it would look to tweet a picture of himself holding a stack of money right after his Ole Miss visit.
On a side note, I hate it when people automatically make "$EC" and "well it looks like he's more interested in getting paid than winning" comments after we lose out on a guy. However, between J Diamond and now Treadwell, I'm even starting to wonder.
January 29th, 2013 at 4:07 PM
#70
Meh. Probably just Monopoly
Meh. Probably just Monopoly money.
January 29th, 2013 at 3:27 PM
#71
when was it tweeted?
I don't see any timestamp.
January 29th, 2013 at 3:27 PM
#72
Way to use your head there,
Way to use your head there, big guy.
January 29th, 2013 at 3:28 PM
#73
Big bills are harder to spend!
Seriously, what was he thinking? Forget recruiting, not a wise or safe move.
January 29th, 2013 at 3:32 PM
#74
Andddddddddddd there's
Andddddddddddd there's this:
https://twitter.com/AuburnHedgpeth/status/296293557235490817
January 29th, 2013 at 3:38 PM
#75
This would be surprise to
This would be surprise to no-one.
But nice find.
January 29th, 2013 at 3:43 PM
#76
Young, fit, athlete gets
Young, fit, athlete gets laid. News at 11.
January 29th, 2013 at 3:46 PM
#77
That was my reaction
Ole Miss hardly has a monopoly on sorority girls...
January 29th, 2013 at 3:46 PM
#78
Damn SEC girls!
*
January 29th, 2013 at 3:54 PM
#79
Meh, she's not that hot.
Meh, she's not that hot. I've had better.
January 29th, 2013 at 3:46 PM
#82
RE: Andddddddddddd there's
Looks like he got paid for the anatomy lesson in the library...What?
January 29th, 2013 at 3:52 PM
#83
It's ok, he'll be run out of
It's ok, he'll be run out of town in no time. I hear people down south don't take kindly to interracial dating. You just wait until this gets around.
/s (Hate when people do this, but I really hope this isn't taken too poorly.)
January 30th, 2013 at 12:44 AM
#84
1) For a Ole Miss girl, she's
1) For a Ole Miss girl, she's not that hot. 2) The Library is a bar in Oxford (so an 18 year old recruit should probably not be talking about it on twitter)
January 29th, 2013 at 3:55 PM
#85
The fact that other people
The fact that other people are commenting on that is creepy. Twitter sucks.
January 29th, 2013 at 4:02 PM
#86
Sluts gonna slut.
Sluts gonna slut.
January 29th, 2013 at 6:06 PM
#87
Takes 2 broseph.
Takes 2 broseph.
Edit: Then again, given your response, maybe it's always been just one for you.
January 29th, 2013 at 4:04 PM
#88
So Laquon got busy between the hedges
so to speak.
January 29th, 2013 at 4:14 PM
#89
Name of Auburn, refers to
Georgia's hedges and tramps for Ole Miss.
Is Treadwell sure he committed to the right SEC school?
January 29th, 2013 at 4:15 PM
#90
Showing your age, Don.
No one has hedges anymore.
January 29th, 2013 at 4:57 PM
#91
Maybe she was giving a short presentation
on female sexuality as part of an academic exchange program with Minnesota.
January 29th, 2013 at 3:34 PM
#92
Looks like Ben Bernake, err
Looks like Ben Bernake, err Alan Greenspan's hand to me.
January 29th, 2013 at 3:35 PM
#93
Perhaps his family or close
Perhaps his family or close friends have engaged in a successful enterprise!
January 29th, 2013 at 3:42 PM
#94
Its $300 bucks people..its
Its $300 bucks people..its not like hes driving around in a new car. Could be birthday money, could be Grandma is feeling generous money..not indicative of foul play
January 29th, 2013 at 3:51 PM
#95
Exactly. It's just 300 bucks.
Exactly. It's just 300 bucks. Probably the cash left over after buying himself that nice ring. What's that white thing in the corner?
January 29th, 2013 at 4:34 PM
#96
$300 is a big deal. I'm not
$300 is a big deal. I'm not saying Treadwell tool any money, but a few hindered dollars is what boosters give to recruits to wet their appetite. It's enough money to a high schooler that he gets some spending cash, but little enough that he knows he won't get caught (and he won't). This can happen on multiple occasions. A booster can promise more later. It adds up, and it's not insignificant.
January 29th, 2013 at 7:36 PM
#97
could be... if I'm not
could be... if I'm not mistaken, the SMU guys also received $300 a week... back in 1985.
January 29th, 2013 at 10:31 PM
#98
More like a thousand
Thats a stack on the table son...
January 29th, 2013 at 3:44 PM
#99
The most overlooked piece of
The most overlooked piece of recruiting info that came out this year was, if i recall, about 6 months ago (ish).
It was LT basically saying that the Michigan coaches had not contacted him in quite some time and he didnt know why.
It baffled me not only how Michigan fans did not notice these comments, but how most still though LT was a lock, even though the Michigan coaches next to dropped him for some reason unknown to all us fans, but definitely known by the coaches.
I was always curious as to why the Michigan coaches walked from him. He 'seemed' like a good kid.
January 29th, 2013 at 3:48 PM
#100
Someone else mentioned this
Someone else mentioned this earlier in the thread, but TVH has been consistent in reporting that that's just not true - the coaches maintained contact with LT through the whole process.
January 29th, 2013 at 4:01 PM
#101
Many Michigan fans noticed...
1/2 were pissed at how our coaches "could be so stupid"...then the rest of us all knew what was going on.
It happens all over the country, in more ways than people realize. In the end, not a big deal and probably not the only kid THIS YEAR that we lost due to "other" circumstances.
I've worked in college athletics for quite some time, there's only so much you can do. Just yesterday, I heard a story about a dad pimping out his own daughter who was on the welcome team (they've got all kinds of names for the group and literally every school has them)...giving her money to give to recruits, take them out, do whatever. School had no knowledge, just some crazy, rich, fan that thought he was helping his team.
We have crazy freakouts on MGoBlog all the time, can you imagine what that's like at the "MGoBlog of Ole Miss?"
Fact is, you can't control an entire fan base. If people want to cheat, they're going to cheat. The bigger issue is making sure coaches aren't involved and student-athletes are educated.
For every athlete that takes money, there are probably 10 more than turn down handouts. Hell, I remember when I was in college. Me and my best friend who played football at OSU walked back to his dorm...at the door was a box. Inside...a Rolex. He had no idea where it came from, it didn't even say anything other than "Go Bucks" on it.
Another friend who was at MSU had someone give him an envelop with $400 in it. Neither guy kept the gift or knew where it came from. Neither guy got another gift to my knowledge...but I don't think in either case anyone associated with the University knew about it until they turned them in.
January 29th, 2013 at 4:50 PM
#102
I think LTs exact quote was
I think LTs exact quote was that Michigan wasn't "showing him the love." People took that as UM coaches not speaking with him when that is clearly not the case according to the wise TomVH. Also, Shane had a quote during the UA game along the lines of "Im recruiting LT but not sure what this dudes deal is."
Looks like we might know what "the love" means now.
January 29th, 2013 at 3:46 PM
#103
Did no one notice the Combat
Did no one notice the Combat Source Kill aka: roach motel at the bottom of the pic? Ole Miss were all the 5* go! HAHAHA.
January 29th, 2013 at 3:46 PM
#104
30 For 30 in the making...
Had to breakout the red/blue "rebel" glasses for this!
...first he's flashing more money than any high school should ever have.
...then some floozy is talking about topping him off (that's what the kids call it these days, just learned that yesterday actually) in the library.
#jealousnow #laughinglater
January 29th, 2013 at 3:57 PM
#105
I'm just sayin' - Chris
I'm just sayin' - Chris Hansen, Dateline NBC, a recruiting sting. Would make for fascinating TV.
January 29th, 2013 at 6:07 PM
#106
Lol
I agree!!! I believe you have posted that before right? It would make a great tv special
January 29th, 2013 at 4:00 PM
#107
I am happy
I am happy we didn't get LaQuon. Don't get me wrong, he's a great player, but I have had a bad feeling about him. The way his recruitment unfolded, and how he likes to be in the spotlight, I can see some Pryor like results for him.
January 29th, 2013 at 4:01 PM
#108
FWIW
looks like Ole Miss is gonna get 5* Nkemdiche. they have 5* laremy tunsil visiting this weekend as well.
January 29th, 2013 at 5:46 PM
#109
Yeah, see, if they get those
Yeah, see, if they get those guys as well, there's definitely money changing hands. No way that many top-shelf recruits suddenly pick random Ole Miss.
January 29th, 2013 at 4:09 PM
#110
What an idiot
What an idiot
January 29th, 2013 at 4:11 PM
#111
Oh lord
here we go
January 29th, 2013 at 4:20 PM
#112
Yup
This is not shocking in the least. Treadwell may be a great kid, and I don't know anything about him or his motivations. But that said, it is INCREDIBLY rare for a blue-chip recruit to pick a school that has no recent history of success and is not reasonably close to home.
Ole Miss has one 10-win season since 1972, and their coach, Hugh Freeze, has only been a HC for two years (at Ole Miss for one). So it's not like he's signing up for a program that will be competing for championships.
Take a look at the Rivals 100 for each of the last few years: 2013, 2012, 2011, 2010. The only kids on those lists who signed with programs that had not either experienced significant recent success or were local were Yuri Wright (2012 4*, high school in NJ to the University of Colorado), Gabriel Marks (2012 4*, Los Angeles to Washington St.), and James Hurst (2010 4*, Indiana to UNC). The only one of those ranked higher than #85 in the country was Hurst, an OL ranked #32. There is literally no instance in the last four years in which a blue-chip player signed with a mid-level program out of his region.
So we have a situation where a kid from Illinois just signed with a middling school nine hours from home, and started flashing cash around. Not only that, but Ole Miss is by many accounts the leader for Robert Nkemdiche, the #1 overall recruit in this class, who is from Georgia - not quite as far, but still not exactly local, which also seems fishy. Again, I don't know anything about Treadwell as a person, or his motivations, and this certainly is not clear proof of any impropriety. But there sure is a lot of smoke in this case for there to be no fire behind it.
January 29th, 2013 at 7:42 PM
#113
Missing a point or two
I believe Nkemdiche's brother plays for Ole Miss currently and Ole Miss pulling a guy from Georgia is basically like us pulling a guy from Pennsylvania
Second, Anthony Standifer goes to Ole Miss who I believe is one of Laquon's best friends.
Given those points, it's still suspicious for the biggest sad sack in the SEC to be pulling guys in like that but there are definitely plausible reasons for them to pull in those two
January 29th, 2013 at 4:21 PM
#114
Sad stuff here.
Sad stuff here.
January 29th, 2013 at 4:27 PM
#115
money aside
the SEC is the premiere conference in college football right now and they can offer immediate playing time. think about what beating alabama did for johnny manziel, a freshman last year, you would not have many opportunities to do that in the B1G or anywhere else.
January 29th, 2013 at 4:31 PM
#116
This thread is absolutely
This thread is absolutely shameful
January 29th, 2013 at 4:36 PM
#117
Reading through all the posts on this thread
1. It appears there was a transaction of money.
2. Michigan broke ties with Treadwell and complained about it.
3. Ole Miss is getting highly touted visitors.
I've concluded that Michigan was asked to pony up and refused to get in bed with Treadwell. After several attempts by Treadwell to shop his talents around to other schools Ole Miss came thru. Just my opinion but I think it's more Treadwell wanting assistance and not caring where he plays. Word spreads then all those who are like Treadwell start showing up on Ole Miss' front door. IMO.
January 29th, 2013 at 4:53 PM
#118
Somebody should take this thread down.
Obviously if a black kid has money, he must have gotten it from a booster, right? That or by selling drugs I guess.
This place is gross sometimes.
January 29th, 2013 at 5:25 PM
#119
It has nothing to do with skin color
Anytime a high profile recruit is flashing wads of hundreds .. It's suspicious. I don't care if the kid is black, white, green, yellow, purple .. It doesn't matter. Plenty of white kids and black kids come from wealthy families and plenty of white kids and black kids come from families that have nothing. Point is ... Anytime a high profile recruit flashes wads of hundreds right in the middle of recruiting season and decision dates .. It's suspicious. Even kids from wealthy families are rarely given thousands of dollars at a time to flaunt around. And with all the shady recruiting that has been proven to be true this is more so. Lastly, the way LaQuons recruiting unfolded was shady in itself. It's a miracle that Ole Miss suddenly lands the top recruits out of no where. One I could see .. But Tunsil, Nkemdiche and Treadwell? They could end up with that trio and how?
January 30th, 2013 at 8:58 AM
#120
Look, I'll admit this is a
Look, I'll admit this is a dumb thing for him to do at this time of year, but I think it's equally dumb to pretend that there isn't a racial component to how these kinds of stories are portrayed. I don't really understand the "flash your cash" thing that these kids today are doing, but it's apparently a thing.
When I was 17 I had a bank account with money in it. I got that money from, you know, working. I can't remember how much I had but I'm sure it was more than is pictured there. Also, I bet if I had wanted to, I could have gone to a bank to get cash and laid it on my dining room table and taken a picture. The picture doesn't mean anything.
All we've got is conjecture about how you think Ole Miss should be recruiting accompanied by a picture of probably not very much money and a whole bunch of people on this thread are jumping to the conclusion, "Oh, this is why he went to a school that isn't my school. $EC hurr durr."
January 29th, 2013 at 6:25 PM
#121
Kudos to you.
You have much more patience with asshats than I do.
January 29th, 2013 at 5:41 PM
#122
Grow up
Grow up
January 29th, 2013 at 6:03 PM
#123
Negged for bringing race into
Negged for bringing race into this. ~100 comments in, and yours is the first to bring up race. Top reasons for why this pic raised a red flag in just about everybody's minds:
- Recruiting has been known to be less than virtuous over the years, especially in the south/southeast.
- A year ago, Treadwell seemed like a heavy Michigan lean. For whatever reason, he decided to go to Ole Miss, a mediocre school in the south. I'm sure many people wondered (and some may have commented, I don't know) if there were some shady dealings. However, we have had no real reason to think that he was under-handedly lured to Ole Miss - despite being a mediocre football school, their campus is beautiful (by all accounts), they do have a long (albeit rough) history, his best friend just finished his freshman season there, and their coach is known to be a good, enthusiastic recruiter.
- He claimed that Michigan coaches weren't "showing him the love." From TomVH, we know the coaches didn't cut off communication with him, so they must not have been giving him what he was looking for.
- A week before NSD, he posts a picture on his Twitter account with a handful of money, then quickly deletes it. There are obviously many ways he could have gotten that money, and we have no proof that he got that money from a booster (we don't even have proof that that was his hand in the pic), and it's possible he removed a perfectly legitimate picture of money to avoid speculation.
All of that adds up to raise some question marks, and none of that has to do with race.
January 29th, 2013 at 6:36 PM
#124
Ugh
How dare you rationalize both sides of this argument? How am I supposed to get unreasonably angry about things like this?!
January 29th, 2013 at 9:07 PM
#125
You make some decent points
But I'd point out that a kid not going where he was expected to go is not exactly new. Also, it's just as plausible that Treadwell's feeling that the coaches weren't 'showing him enough love' meant that he wanted more contact/attention etc. You're jumping to the money thing without any evidence. There's no real evidence the kid is dirty, yet a bunch of people here are acting as if it's obvious he is.
My point is that there is a tendency on the part of the predominantly white, predominantly middle class consumers of college football to look at the admittedly odd subcultural phenomenon of African American kids posing with fistfuls of cash and thinking that they must have gotten that money from some shady source, when in reality the amount of money getting flashed is nothing in most cases.
If Shane Morris tweeted a picture of a deposit slip from depositing $500 cash into an 18 month CD the week after a visit, I doubt many people here would be so scandalized. Unless, of course, they thought that he'd be better served by preserving the liquidity available through a traditional savings account.
January 30th, 2013 at 12:39 AM
#126
if you had made a composed post like this
the first time around, rather than call everyone a racist, maybe your point would have been better received.
January 30th, 2013 at 8:57 AM
#127
You're probably right
My first post was probably overly inflammatory.
But I was irritated that I'd read through 100 or so posts with very few people pointing out that the amount of money showing is not anything out of the ordinary for a kid with a high school job to have. I thought it was shameful that there isn't any evidence whatsoever that the kid did anything wrong, yet people are just assuming that he's done something wrong.
Apparently people disagree with me, which is fine I guess, but you'd be hard pressed to convince me that the reaction when pictures like this come out isn't partially conditioned by the race of the kids posing with the cash. I hope I'm wrong, but I doubt it.
Racism comes in a lot of forms and degrees. Almost no one actually thinks that they're a racist, yet discrimination occurs all the time. See here for just one example. I'm sure most of the people in HR departments reviewing applications aren't members of the KKK, but the results are what they are.
Everyone wants to believe the best about himself. It's like those studies that show that 90% of people think they're smarter than average.
January 30th, 2013 at 12:53 AM
#128
No, just no
Actually they would. Do not forget that people were question how Johnny Manziel (who is as pasty and white as they come) was able to get floor seats at Mavs games, flash hundreds at casinos, and go the the national champioship game. And Manziel's family has got tons of oil money, and yet people still speculated on where he got the money.
Throwing the racism card where none exists only serves to lessen the impact of it where there actually is racism present. (Kinda like the boy who cried wolf)
January 30th, 2013 at 9:08 AM
#129
Maybe you're right.
I hope so. I'd like to think people are just idiots rather than racists.
January 29th, 2013 at 5:12 PM
#130
Think we dodged a bullet on that one...
January 29th, 2013 at 5:15 PM
#131
$$$$$
The weirdest thing to me about Treadwell to Ole Miss is not that a kid would go to a certain school based on that. It's that either Ole Miss had the most to offer among all schools that have something to offer or that there were certain schools that were atttractive to him and yet Ole Miss was the most attractive choice among the group of schools that met his criterion.
January 29th, 2013 at 5:38 PM
#132
If Laquon
Switched his commitment to Michigan the same people bashing him would defend him. A weekly part time paycheck would be that much money pictured.
January 29th, 2013 at 5:50 PM
#133
Uh, where did you work in
Uh, where did you work in high school? 20 hours a week at a minimum-wage job wouldn't even net him 150.
January 29th, 2013 at 6:00 PM
#134
Minimum wage in Illinois
Is 8.25 I think, a bi weekly check from a part time job is reasonably close to that. I'm not saying he has a part time job or what he makes or where it came from. It's not a large sum of money. The main point is that this is sour grapes over a kid who chose to go somewhere besides Michigan.
January 29th, 2013 at 6:11 PM
#135
Not if he's paying taxes.
Not if he's paying taxes. That's it! He's a tax evader! IRS to the rescue!
January 30th, 2013 at 3:44 AM
#136
That looks very much like a
That looks very much like a decent sized stack of $100 bills on the table. I don't even make that much at my shitty part time job with a bi weekly paycheck.
Granted, it may be a friend/relatives money and he was just fucking around and taking pictures. It may be his personal savings. It may also be money taken from a blank envelope handed to him by an Ole Miss booster.
Either way, none of this really matters because the NCAA doesn't do anything about violations until Deadspin or Yahoo! decides that there may be a possible link to uncover, which there may or may not be.
January 29th, 2013 at 8:01 PM
#137
Maybe he's a saver. That's
Maybe he's a saver. That's what i do. I live on beans, rice & yakisoba and post pics of my coupons cuz I'm straight up miser, yo!
January 29th, 2013 at 6:09 PM
#138
The SEC is keeping their
The SEC is keeping their recruits by paying them? The NCAA would be all over that if it were true!
/s
January 29th, 2013 at 6:20 PM
#139
I try to use an approach that
I try to use an approach that makes me look at it from the other side. He's 17 or 18 years old. I had a job at that age where I made about $1,000 every two weeks. I also lived at home so I had no bills. So on pay day it wasnt very difficult to flash around hundreds. I didn't do it, but Im also not from a generation that was raised to idolize a culture where that is considered cool.
January 29th, 2013 at 7:19 PM
#140
That's gangsta
Now if only I had money so I could get a picture flaunting said money to let all the bitches know I'm a baller.
January 29th, 2013 at 7:41 PM
#141
To quote Bob Dylan, one of my
To quote Bob Dylan, one of my favorite musicians:
"Oxford Town in the afternoon
Ev'rybody singin' a sorrowful tune
Two men died 'neath the Mississippi moon
Somebody better investigate soon."
January 29th, 2013 at 8:09 PM
#142
Thread started good, and went straight downhill
from there. I'm in the let it rest crowd. Hyper analyzing this dude's Twitter post is fun for about three seconds.
January 29th, 2013 at 11:59 PM
#143
In the words of the greatest
In the words of the greatest WR to every play football....
Straight cash homie
January 30th, 2013 at 1:43 AM
#144
Kid didn't come to Michigan.
Kid didn't come to Michigan. They obviously paid him....or maybe he stole some kid's computer and sold it.
