Korie Lucious was arrested for drunk driving Monday morning and blew just over the limit. He is underage.
OT: Korie Lucious arrested for drunk driving
FYI. Junior, guard.
So, then Drew Sharp article questioning why he is still on the team comes out when?
Sharp and Rosenberg are too busy watching basketball practice to make sure Stu Douglass doesn't take more than the allowed number of free throws.
No no no, MSU basketball, not Michigan.
Izzo, like Dantonio, is free to give as many second chances as he pleaes with no repercussions from the local media. (No disrespect to Izzo though, just screw Drew Sharp)
...I would be much more concerned about the justice handed out by Tom Izzo than the slap on the wrist that the State of Michigan applies for first time drunk drivers.
... depending on the judge it's bad or a nightmare.
Then the Secretary of State gets their pound of flesh ($1K or $2K over two years depending upon your breathalyzer).
Michigan's drunk driving laws are among the most severe in the US. Unless you are the president of an NFL franchise, that is...
...what you are comparing them to. A 30 day suspension, an inconvenient few hours in a holding cell and a fine hardly registers against the penalties in Europe or Asia.
Like he said it completely depends on the judge.
I had a friend, first time offender at the age of 30, blew .09. Right after the limit was lowered from .10 to .08.
Spent the night in jail.
100 Hours community service.
About $5,000 in fines and fees and stuff.
1 year probation license. Could only drive to work and back.
If you get a judge who's life has been directly effected by a DUI, he's going to throw the book at you.
...as to whether that is severe or not. But as someone who's family has "directly effected", I will continue to call that a slap on the wrist. Back to sports.
It might motivate him further to get drafted, so he can pay the huge fine.
Actually, he blew .09 over the legal limit.
he technically blew .09 over the legal limit bc the legal limit at 20 is .00
the barely over was a reference to .08 for 21+
at 170 lbs. he needed about 4 beers in an hour (or 4 shots for that matter)...to achieve that level of wastedness...
Seems like a good kid. Has to take his lumps and move on. Thankfully we won't read anymore about this in the media outlets.
This is a Division 1 athlete on scholarship at a major university. Big deal or not, it's still newsworthy for many.
but that's not really surprising, I went to a private christian high school
The issue is more that he was DRIVING DRUNK. Get off the high horse and consider the people he could have harmed with this reckless action.
Ask Plaxico about how NY gun laws are different than say, Texas. Agree or disagree with it, the kid broke the law in many ways
You did comment that you didn't believe that a BAC of .09 puts anyone in danger, but you put it in the context of legality. Your argument thus comes off as it's not dangerous b/c the legal limit is .10.
Also, you never once addressed Gillette's statement explicitly.
Also also, unless you can show empirical evidence that driving with a .09 BAC never poses a danger to others, just stop trying to make the argument. That you or thousands of other have done it and not gotten caught or hurt anyone does not make it a safe action, regardless of the outcome. It is inherently risky and carries a much higher probability of a poor outcome than driving sober.
What was your argument again? The underage alcohol issue, or the driving drunk issue? Because you can't seem to choose one, and you're arguing for the sake of arguing.
As you so nicely put it earlier, *YAWN.*
Advancing your arguments with false information is, well, douchy.
It is .08 in MN and I believe the federal government withheld federal highway repair funds if a state refused to lower the limit to .08.
but for now I'll just point out that I live in Colorado, and the DUI limit is .08. You can also get a citation all the way down to .05.
absolutely wrong about the legal limits of those states. In fact, EVERY US state has adopted a BAC limit of .08. MN lowered their limit to .08 in 2005.
I'd rather have a highway filled with people at .09 (.01 over the legal limit and below the legal limit in some states prior to the Feds setting .08 nationally) than a highway filled with people on their cellphones.
The kid should be smart enough to take a bus or a taxi when drinking underage, but I really doubt he was any more of a threat than some day trader screaming into his Blackberry while driving.
Edit: I'm not saying DUI is acceptable, but that screaming "OMG he was drunk, he could have killed people!" is a massive overreaction. People have horrible response times when on the cellphone and on cold medicines, so I have a hard time getting worked over .09. Some community service, a bit of a fine and move along.
Personally, I'm not a fan of drunk or distracted driving. I wasn't aware that it had to be one or the other.
It's not the underage drinking. It is the drinking and driving.
That said however, this is not ski masked gang like attacks on dorms and frat houses, where innocent victims were assaulted (one to the point of brain damage).
So if Izzo comes back with discipline, and Korie accepts responsibility, and still malkes the team, then much like Stonum and before him Grady, I have no problem with it.
Regardless of whether you agree with the laws or not, they are still laws and must be followed. Do you think they might have dropped the limit from .10 to .08 because they found that there were a good number of accidents still occurring that were caused by those with a .09 BAC?
I'm guessing you haven't had a family member killed by a drunk driver because otherwise you probably would find it to be newsworthy.
and potentially killing folks is often considered...um...criminal?
Lucky for him that Michigan State is the school for second, third, fourth, and fifth chances.
As much as I despise all things Sparty, I don't see this as a problem, any more than I saw Kevin Grady being let back into school after a DUI as a problem. I would, however, like to see the media treat Lucious and Izzo the same way they would treat a Michigan player and his coach arrested for the same thing.
all things considered, I will say this:
Izzo != Dantonio.
I have a lot of respect for Izzo and the way he runs his program. He runs a clean ship, and I can't remember the last time one of his players ran afoul of the law like this. He doesn't say ridiculous shit like dantonio either.
I'm pretty confident that Izzo will handle the situation properly, and will make sure that Lucious learns a lesson here so as not to repeat this kind of behavior.
I wouldn't be surprised if Lucious was benched for part of the non-conference schedule, anything more than that is probably overkill for a kid that, on the surface, has had no other issues.
State is loaded, so minimal impact for sparty.
Izzo runs a clean ship, and I expect this to be handled appropriately. Still interested, though, to see if there is any residual animosity/uncertainty toward Izzo and his near-move to Cleveland.
It will get handled. Izzo knows what he is doing might be the understatement of the year. The only time I remember him saying anything dopey was when he tried saying the media was overblowing the fight at the dorm last thanksgiving. They clearly weren't and soft peddled it. Especially the columnists.
Moral of the story: don't try to venture into the ridiculousness of Dantonio speak and pose; and you'll have no problems.