OT-Kiper, McShay Or Door Number 3?
I have always enjoyed mock drafts, draft predictions and to some extent draft day itself (Brady Quinn falling to the 2nd round was glorious) at least the first two rounds. I enjoy Kiper and McShay taking a side and the criticisms. Do you prefer another voice out there? LINKS are always appreciated!
April 19th, 2011 at 10:51 AM ^
I just always find it funny that people pay so much attention to any draft analysis. It's a whole lot of talk and a whole lot of speculation when we can wait until draft day and know with 100% certainty what has happened.
April 19th, 2011 at 10:57 AM ^
I'm sure you had the same reaction waiting for christmas as a child (or whatever winter holiday you may have celebrated).
Personally I don't even bother reading the Friday previews during the season. Why bother, I can just know what happened with 100% certainty when I watch the game, and then DOUBLE DOWN ON THE TRUTH with UFR.
April 19th, 2011 at 12:36 PM ^
Thats no fun though. Thats like filling in your march madness bracket the day after the games are played; half the fun for a lot of things like this is seeing how close your predictions actually come.
Edit:. Sarcasm meter is broken. Sorry.
April 19th, 2011 at 11:30 AM ^
Haha, fair enough. What I meant to say was that while I can see why people tune in, I don't really get why people put so much stock in it. It's awesome to stuff your face with information about your team, I just won't ever get worked up about someone's description of what they think is going to happen.
April 19th, 2011 at 11:39 AM ^
but isn't that what we do on National Signing Day? Jake Fisher of last year's class comes to mind.
April 19th, 2011 at 12:00 PM ^
Absolutely, we do it all the time. I'll admit to following the rumors just because it gives me something to do and I enjoy hearing about it, but I usually don't get too worked up until there's actual news.
April 19th, 2011 at 10:59 AM ^
Ahhh-27,721 MGoBlue FACT points!
April 19th, 2011 at 10:52 AM ^
Brady Quinn only fell to the 23rd pick. Still soundly in the first round fwiw.
Kiper is better at evaluating players, but McShay is probably better at predicting where they will go.
April 19th, 2011 at 10:57 AM ^
My Bad
April 19th, 2011 at 10:58 AM ^
I know it's kind of the entirety of his job but Mel Kiper is actually reasonably good at evaluating players. It's shocking.
McShay is worthless to me.
April 19th, 2011 at 10:59 AM ^
April 19th, 2011 at 11:02 AM ^
There's a special, strange joy I get watching the combine and specifically Rich Eisen running the 40 in a suit.
April 19th, 2011 at 11:44 AM ^
Rudy you are not the first I have heard to express such sentiment.
April 19th, 2011 at 11:02 AM ^
Todd McShay is an asshat. He'll never live down the advice he gave to Jevan Snead's family.
Mock drafts are worthless and a waste of time.
April 19th, 2011 at 11:50 AM ^
I haven't heard of a story with McShay/Snead, although obviously I can guess at what it must be. Can you fill in/provide a link?
April 19th, 2011 at 12:27 PM ^
Well, let me edit myself, the Snead family decided Jevan should turn pro based on McShay's advice (advise?):
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/31/todd-mcshay-backlash-builds/
April 19th, 2011 at 11:05 AM ^
Mock drafts are almost always wrong. But when you have a "dog in the fight," it is a lot of fun. It's like the axiom that everyone is undefeated in training camp. The time leading up to the draft is almost always a time of optimism, and you are always hoping that "your" team can get the "steal of the draft," or at least someone who can come in and improve the team right away.
Then, on draft day, no matter how bad a draft pick is, the coaches and GM's all talk about how great the players they drafted are. It's all a crap shoot, and you don't really find out how good a draft was until a few years down the road.
As for Kiper and McShay, if they can make a living doing what they're doing, more power to them. But neither compels me to watch or listen to a word they say.
April 19th, 2011 at 11:33 AM ^
Always liked Kiper and found McShay to be an annoying foil at best.
I think McShay has picked up his game and now offers an informed counter opinion to Kiper - the two of them together "works" now.
Mock drafts are fun. The key is to not take them too seriously. The best anyone can do is make an educated guess the overwhelming majority of the time. The best prognasticators might get the top 3-5 selections correct any given year.
April 19th, 2011 at 11:46 AM ^
Nobody gets this draft thing totally right, but it's amazing how often they are right and NFL teams are wrong.
As a guy who is from Michigan (see Lions disastrous drafting under MIllen et al...) and now lives in Ohio (see Browns passing up Brady, Ed Reed, Bob Sanders and Roethlischubb...) I am amazed how often these teams would have been better off listening to say, Mel Kiper.
There's something to be said for two dudes who sit in a room and watch film for 10 months out of the year. Sure they'll miss every now and then, but they usually have a pretty clear idea of the safest and most appropriate picks.
I guess if I had to pick, I'd take Kiper. And, the only thing good about the NFL network is that it keeps Thursday NFL games out of the way of the college game playing on ESPN.
idiots...