Although i'm not a Kiper fan at all, he just came out with his first Mock. LINK.
I actually agree with him. Jarvis Jones would be a great strongside linebacker for the Lions. Great pass rusher, underrated in coverage. I like it.
Would definitely be okay with
From what I've heard, Miliner
From what I've heard, Miliner is not expected to be a top 5 pick and the Lions should trade down if they want to get him.
I totally agree with that
I totally agree with that assessment, however, kiper's list has him going 4th, so....
Yep. Milliner is considered a #2.
They also have three young CB's in Green, Greenwood, and Bentley. The priority has to be in re-signing Houston, adding pass rushers and at least one safety.
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People always talk about
People always talk about "trading down" as a viable option, but that assumes that there are teams that want to trade up into the #5 spot. I could be wrong, but it seems like there isn't a huge market for teams trying to get up into the Lions' spot this draft. I don't know that trading down is really an option.
Its all about luck
Every team would trade down, pick up assets, and then draft the guy they wanted anyways...if they could. The only teams that are really able to do it are just lucky and happen to wind up in a coveted draft spot. And you never really know which spot will be coveted until the dominos start falling in the draft.
Hot dogs are the devil.
That was my thought too. I'd
That was my thought too. I'd like to see them try, but I don't think it will happen. If it does, it will be because team 7-9 wants whoever team 6 is going to take. So, basically, you have to hope that a team is reaching so that we don't have to.
I like the pick
"will sack quarterbacks, and skip the dance as he helps them up"
Not terribly typical for the esss eeee seeee, but I've seen this kid has class in games of theirs I've watched. Stafford will like having another Bulldog around, methinks. Agree with Pedo though...still need some secondary help. Awful.
The Team, The Team, The Team
I'm hoping for a cornerback,
I'm hoping for a cornerback, too. The Lions haven't had a shutdown corner since Dick Lebeau...
Milliner isn't a shutdown corner.
I'd much rather see a pass rusher like Moore or Jones.
"The Ruhr will not be subjected to a single bomb. If an enemy bomber reaches the Ruhr, my name is not Hermann Göring: you can call me Urban Meyer!"
I didn't want many Lions
I didn't want many Lions games this year, but I don't think the pass rush is their biggest problem... Between Avril (if he comes back), Suh, Fairley, etc., somebody ought to be fired if the Lions can't generate a pass rush.
lions pass rush sucked
AVril is not worth the amount of money he wants and we do need A DE bad cause if Vandenbosch is the best we have next year we r screwed. Imo they will cut him and try to sign him to a better contract because the lions the way they r set up have neg 1.1 million as is towards next years cap. but saying that we need talent anywhere on this roster except QB.
Their ends were not that effective.
The Lions DT rush the passer well, but that was blunted due to a poor outside rush.
"The Ruhr will not be subjected to a single bomb. If an enemy bomber reaches the Ruhr, my name is not Hermann Göring: you can call me Urban Meyer!"
That's the ticket. Despite
That's the ticket. Despite having all those guys, they couldn't generate any rush. Avril took a huge step back, KVB is old, and the other guys (Willie Young and Lawrence Jackson) are pretty young. When you add that in with Suh's lack of concern for the run game, and it's a weird situation when Nick Fairley was our best overall D-Lineman.
If you're doing nothing, how do you know when you're finished?
As it turns out, I didn't
As it turns out, I didn't want many Lions games either. But the played the damn things anyway. Lost most of 'em, too, surprise surprise.
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Terry Fair...oh wait. Bryant
Terry Fair...oh wait. Bryant Westrbrook...oh wait.
/depressed
3-3-5 til the day I die y'all
Oh, that's not fair. Bryant
Oh, that's not fair. Bryant Westbrook always made sure his receiver never caught the ball. Usually he did it by tackling them before the ball got there, but semantics semantics.
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Lem Barney.
Lem Barney.
Lem Barney
is a hall of famer and the first of the great #20's in our lifetimes.
Quiverfull
No doubt, additions to the
No doubt, additions to the secondary would be big for the Lions.
"I have seen the top of the mountain. And it is good."
The Lions will probably take
The Lions will probably take Te'O and that will just confirm with me that they have no clue what they are doing.
You know, Dude, I myself dabbled in pacifism once. Not in 'Nam of course.
Where does Kiper have Teo
Where does Kiper have Teo going now?
8th to the Bills
8th to the Bills
Hot dogs are the devil.
Now where does he have Te'o
Now where does he have Te'o going?
Talented guy with a known
Talented guy with a known health risk. If that doesn't sound like the Lions, what does?
I got a letter from the government the other day . . .
A joke based in fear that will be repeated until the draft
If that doesn't sound like the Lions, what does?
Trying to up their overall talent level at the expense of common sense by drafting Mathieu. I keep saying it, but that would be the most 100% Lions thing to do come draft day. And I don't necessarily mean in the 1st, just at all. Ever.
I like that pick a lot and
I like that pick a lot and hopefully we can take a good CB or S with the 2nd round pick.
“When your team is winning, be ready to be tough, because winning can make you soft. On the other hand, when your team is losing, stick by them. Keep believing” - Bo Schembechler
J. Jones...the first player I
J. Jones...the first player I could think of was RB Johnny "Jam" Jones who played for Texas in the late 1970s. Had teammates Johnny "Lam" Jones (WR) and Johnny "Ham" Jones (RB) who were each pretty good players. Best collection J. Jones' ever on one team.
Johnny "Lam" Jones.
Former
Johnny "Lam" Jones.
Former Jet great
/s
"Ack ack!"
james jones
was a solid RB on the lions for a while.
I went the other way...to
I went the other way...to Jamarco Jones.
I was thinking
I was thinking Julio Jones. Apparently there are a lot of J. Joneses out there.
June Jones
Best Atlanta Falcons QB ever.
Maybe they get him and get
Maybe they get him and get Eric Wright back for cheap.I wouldn't mind a running back in the late rounds either.So many holes on this team to fill.
"Are you an official here?Because you've officially given me a boner."
Good. This guy deserves more
Good. This guy deserves more hype than he gets (which is rare, I know) but he's a great pass rusher, and a great tackler. Not bad in coverage either. He's worth a top 5 pick, unlike all the mock drafts over the holidays that had KC picking Geno Smith #1 overall, smdh.
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The guy has a huge injury risk so
he is a perfect pick for the Lions!
No.
Seriously. Say no to Jarvis Jones. He might have to retire in 2 years.
Bjoern Werner, DaMontre Moore, Dee Milliner. That's it. No one else. Maybe Luke Joeckel if he somehow falls.
Maybe he'll draft Denard as a
Maybe he'll draft Denard as a QB?
Edit: Aaaaand wrong thread...
the lions need offensive
the lions need offensive linemen and defensive backs in the worst way. with that in mind, they will draft a wide receiver.
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lions need alot
the lions have 7 starters who started last year who are unsigned so we need everything. but I dont know if the way the nfl is so much offense that we shouldnt just try to be the best in the league and just outscore everyone it seems defense is overrated in the NFL nowadays.
I'd say it's more likely the Lions take..
the most dysfunctional wide receiver on the board. After watching the Lions futilty in drafting players since the 70's, I gave up on them decades ago. It's mind boggling to see how few of the high draft picks they've gotten over the many years actually turned out to be stars. And even with them, they've almost never made the playoffs.
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I'm not mad with this
However, I'm still on the Manti bandwagon.
NEVER MIND
He's a dick.
j jones not for lions
I agree he is a stud but he seems more suited for a 3 4 cause the lions wouldnt use him right cause they dont blitz the LBs enough. I would prefer MOORE for Texas AM if he is there becuse he is a DE which LIons i am pretty sure only have 2 signed for next year one who had no sacks and the other never seen the field.
Would be a great pick. They
Would be a great pick. They need to address many positions, but you can't pass up on a player of that caliber.
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Screw Lance.
Good
Let Te'o fall to the Steelers. They need a new ILB to replace Foote.
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-Rod Serling
Kiper also says Lewan made a
Kiper also says Lewan made a mistake coming back and that he was beaten by Clowney 4 or 5 times in the Outback Bowl. Coming back, the value of that move is debatable I suppose, but I certainly don't remember seeing Clowney beat Lewan 4 or 5 times in the bowl game.
The swag is back.
If A Guy (Kiper) has Fake Hair
you should scrutinize anything he says. And what's up with those glasses from the 70's that he's wearing? Don't tell me his prescription didn't change in 40+ years.
Quiverfull
Thanks for summarizing,
Thanks for summarizing, because I refuse to click through.
Kiper on Denard
He had this to say about Denard in his ESPN.com chat today:
"I think he's a solid second rounder. He'll show great speed at the combine. He's a heckuva football player. Teams that could look at him at WR moreso than return man, Cleveland, St. Louis, Minnesota, Buffalo, Miami, Jets, New England, San Diego, KC, Tennessee."
http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/46757/football-guru-mel-kiper
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Would definitely be okay with that pick up, but would much rather have Dee Miliner if he falls to the Lions' draft pick. Desperately need secondary help.