Poor kid loved USC and Kiffin hosed him .
somehow we're only 124th
Poor kid loved USC and Kiffin hosed him .
Send him a Michigan offer!!
Imagine how this kid must feel.. Crap like this makes me sick. Fuck you Lane Kiffin.
EDIT: Just saw that his scholarship wasn't pulled, he was just told that he couldn't enroll early. This is a bit less slimy, but only just.
Nah, you were right the first time. I try not to swear here but FUCK YOU Lane Kiffin.
That les miles incident when the kid was already on campus was horrible. But Les does have a National Championship to explain his tactics. Kiffin on the other hand is jus a dick. I'm just waiting on him to be fired but I think they'll keep him until the sanctions are gone with the scholarship reductions and then go after a big fish coach
Sorry, but winning an NC does not justify what Miles did or what other coaches do when the cupboard, suddenly overfills, and they go back on their word.
That is just plain wrong. Put yourself in the position of the kid who showed up for school, only to be moved out.
why these kids continue to take other campus visits after making a verbal commitment. The verbal commitment is just as non-binding for the coaches, apparently, as it is for the players.
For *some* coaches...not all
AND *some* players also.
The 5 star recruits don't have to worry about things like this happening!
This kid is a 4-star DE ranked 7th in the country... he's not exactly a scrub.
According to Sporting News' ranking of FBS coaches, that is.
In any case that's how you lose a pipeline, whether the scholarship was pulled or the kid was deferred. Then again, it's not like Kiffin is universally loved by HS coaches in the first place. Redwhiteandmaize is right though--Kiffin still pulls in 5* recruits, and a ton of them.
That ranking is laughable in so many ways.
While Kiffin is obviously a jerk, I think kids, parents, and HS coaches need to start really taking notice of this behavior, which is neither new nor limited to Lane. I mean, Tubberville basically pulled a bunch of offers to kids at Cincy, and the local HS coach said he is no longer welcome on campus. Other schools need to adopt this approach, or at least heavily advise their recruits that you are taking a chance with coaches like Kiffin, Saban, Miles, everyone in the SEC-W, etc.
yes, Kiffen knew the only way McQuay would commit would be if he could enroll in January so they gave Fitts' spot to LM3.
I can't imagine this is good for team chemistry.
Another slimy move from Kiffin to pull a kid scholarship and defer him to fall reminds me how Tuberville screwed over Demetrius Monday. While all the hype is surrounded around Kiffin and his actions, this speaks a lot on the AD that they are willing to keep someone of his character in the program. However, if they are willing to let USC ride high with the arrogance of a coach and drive their program into the ground I'm all for it. College football is better off when USC loses their blue chip status.
Back to the topic at hand, I'm glad this kid is looking elsewhere and its only fitting that he go to USC rival schools and takes out his frustrations on the field agains them. The very kids that live to play for their dream school and gets screwed out of that opportunity are the same ones that have statement games against the school they idolized.
...I'd suspect that, in an effort to assist SC (his dream school) with their scholarship reductions, Fitts busted his ass to gradudate HS early so he could be counted as an EE.
Thats a good point. Another point, that's a BULLSHIT avatar man.
"College football is better off when USC loses their blue chip status"
I think I'd tend to disagree with that statement. I think College Football is better off when there is competition from multiple places. When Texas and Oklahoma are in the top tier, when USC and Oregon are top tier, when Michigan and OSU (yes, I said it) are top tier. When all of these teams are competing for national championships and are having seasons where they have 1 or 2 losses each and every year, it puts pressure on everyone else to improve, and takes away a little of the SEC's "superiority complex."
Kiffin's just not a decent guy.
His coaching record the last two years is only one loss worse than Hoke's, so I doubt they'll fire him soon unless he has a repeat of this year's underachievement.
I hope there is a way this kid can sue the school. This is a dirt bag move and I would say the same if hoke did the same thing.
But he's got a hot wife. Her name is Layla Ali. Or something like that.
If she is Layla Ali, could she knock some sense into him?
or they get forced out when the players are no longer useful.
The fact that this was posted already last week and nobody even notices just epitomizes what a Douche Kiffin is.
How could any kid want to play for this guy or trust anything he says? UCLA is just down the road, Stanford and Cal are nice (and are better schools), ASU has better women, and there are tons of other schools with good football schools and academics.
I feel bad for him, but it's the equivalent of me buying a Rolex from some guy on the street and then acting surprised that it is 1) a cheap knock off, or 2) stolen. But then again, I'm an adult and this kid is still a kid, so Kiffin gets and deserves most of the blame.
The only way this is acceptable is if the kid did something stupid (like commit a crime) and USC was holding his scholarship until the fall for him to get back on track.
Kiffin is young and relatable. This is bigtime for high school kids. Look at who most of the best recruiters are, the ones notorious for "outkicking their coverage" in terms of Recruiting - Tosh Lupoi, James Franklin, Kiffin - all young, energetic guys.
SInce Vanderbilt is my second alma mater and I am big Franklin fan, please don't compare him to Kiffin. He is young, talented and a class act. The only thing he has in comon with Kiffin is that he is young and a football coach.
Vanderbilt is not my second alma mater but I am a huge Franklin fan. In no way is his personality like Kiffin outside of the fact that he his young, ambitious, and fiery. He is a class act.
After his ballot stunt, fuck him.
or kiffen is such a prick that people assumed he did it twice in two weeks.
I don't blame the kids whose heads are turned by the idea of playing in El-lay at SC, but parents and coaches really should conduct a little due diligence on whatever coach and program their kids look at joining, and steer them away from jerks who do things like this. Until SC and LSU and their like start losing 5 stars because the schools' reputations have been tarnished, this stuff will continue. And it is just plain wrong.
They may be aware of the risk but just don't think their student would be subject to it. No one wants to think their kid/player would be in the bottom few spots.
the point isn't that you think your kid may get screwed on his scholarship; the point is that you should not want your kid putting his college career in the hands of people who will screw kids when it suits their purposes. Four years is plenty of time to get screwed in other ways. Plus, who wants role models like that for their kids?
Wait! Lane Kiffin did something slimey?
Well I'll be..........
Pay Hayden tolerates this. He is a class act, and i believe (based on nothing other than my perception of Hayden and Kiffens douchbagery) he won't tolerate much more of this bullshit.
I hope that kid goes to UCLA and stuffs those Trojan bastards for 4 years.
boss when he ignores athletic dept principles? If Garrett were still there, then this stuff would go indefinitely.
My theory is Kiffin's trying to create a conflict. USC didn't show up for a team dinner at the bowl, Kiffin dressed like a tool during the game, and now he publicly ditched a recruit for a shiny new McQuay. Total lack of professionalism and Haden looks like a fool.
Why would Kiffin try to create a conflict? The prestige of his current job vastly exceeds his qualifications, and despite having a short career he's already left two jobs in a douchey manner (Raiders, Tennessee). If he screws up a third time I can't imagine anyone will hire him.
All you really need to know about Kiffin is that even his own father couldn't stand to be around him.
Kiffin is a win-at-all-costs coach who doesn't win very much. He has one of the most talented rosters in all of college football--even with the sanctions--and still underachieves. He'll be out next year if things don't improve, IMO.
This move is particularly douchey, and I'm gald the HS coach has responded. I wish more coaches would do that.
But this does beg the question: How does USC keep getting top-tier talent?
Basically, Kiffin sells fame and fortune wrapped in Hollywood glamour at one of the most successful programs in college football history. Not a tough sell, even for a douchebag.
Still, I am sickened by this, and wish it would get more press.
I think negativity toward Kiffin is starting to build. The announcers who did the USC-Ga. Tech bowl game were relatively critical of him for essentially standing up the bowl dinner.
It was really surprising that they reported the story during the game broadcast and were so critical of USC.
Is ridiculously nice. Wow.
I hope I never, ever hear that Hoke has done something like this. If a kid is preparing to attend Michigan and gets his scholarship revoked based on a non-academically-related decision by the program I am going to seriously consider finding a new program to support.
These kinds of things should not happen to kids. Remember how excited you were to graduate HS and go on to college? Imagine doing everything you could academically to go off to school AND play a college sport, only to find out your free ride is swept out from under you! What a horrible thing to have happen. Horrible. Worse yet - it was done because the coaches ended up getting someone they THOUGHT was better! (Who knows if he's really going to be better). Horrible. Again, fuck Lane Kiffin and Les Miles and all those other assholes that do this kind of thing.
Best of luck to the kid and personally I want Kiffin to get all of this talent and get his ass handed to him by UCLA on a regular basis.
I honestly don't see how USC fans could stomach having this guy as their coach. Kiffin represents everything that is wrong with college football. I hope he gets canned not because I dislike USC, but because of acts like this. He's a pathetic excuse for a human being.
That being said, does anyone know if Michigan has formally extended him an offer? I have no idea if he's ever visited or has even spoken with anyone on the coaching staff, but we can always use more D-Linemen, especially as far as our pass rush goes.
Why would anyone want to play for this guy?