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OT - Kid Rock serving up some good ole' Freep hate
February 11th, 2012 at 2:19 PM | 
Anybody can chart nowdays,
Anybody can chart nowdays,
February 11th, 2012 at 2:31 PM |
RRHOF
RRHOF
can let anyone in. Beastie Boys, Michael Jackson, and Prince do not fall into the classic definition of Rock and Roll. KR has done as much to perpetuate R/R as anyone recently in Detroit.
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February 11th, 2012 at 2:42 PM |
You still haven't told me
You still haven't told me
You still haven't told me what Robert Ritchie has done to get in the R and R Hall of Fame. There's still acts out there such as Tom Petty, SRV, Jethro Tull, the Gues Who, the Moody Blues, etc, who were a hundred times more talented than Kid Rock who aren't in. And if KR gets in before any of them, it's a travesty.
cheat, cheat, and cheat some more, and when you get caught, do the right thing, lie!
February 11th, 2012 at 2:36 PM |
If anyone can do it, you
If anyone can do it, you
If anyone can do it, you should be able to name at least 20 artists who have charted on 3 different categories. Go.
February 11th, 2012 at 2:55 PM |
Temptations, Elvis, Supremes,
Temptations, Elvis, Supremes,
Temptations, Elvis, Supremes, Johnny Cash, Jackson 5, Dolly Parton, Glen Campbell, Kenny Rodgers, Clapton, Al Green, Four Tops, Carl Perkins, Dianna Ross, Porter Wagoner, Wayne Newton, Queen, Buddy Holly, Ritchie Valens, Linda Rondstat, Johnny Rivers. Those are just off the top of my head. And if you think Kid Rock holds a candle toany of them you're delusional.
cheat, cheat, and cheat some more, and when you get caught, do the right thing, lie!
February 11th, 2012 at 3:06 PM |
Which three genres did, for
Which three genres did, for
Which three genres did, for example, Queen or Carl Perkins chart on? You realize he's talking about genres, not just charting on US and Canadian country. If you go by the standards you're going by, Kid Rock has at least four.
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February 11th, 2012 at 3:24 PM |
Carl Perkins charted in
Carl Perkins charted in
Carl Perkins charted in country, rock-a-billy, rock and roll,and more. Queen was rock and roll, prog rock, and even opera. Please don't tell me Robert Ritchie was better than anyone mentioned because if you thinkhe was, you know nothing about music.
cheat, cheat, and cheat some more, and when you get caught, do the right thing, lie!
February 11th, 2012 at 3:34 PM |
It doesn't really help your
It doesn't really help your
It doesn't really help your point when you start comparing Kid Rock to Elvis, The Supremes, The Temptations, and Queen. I love that you can't see how dumb it sounds to name a handful of amazing artists who did the same thing as Kid Rock and then say "see, he sucks."
February 11th, 2012 at 5:36 PM |
So youre saying because he
So youre saying because he
So youre saying because he did the same thing as the Supremes, Temeptations, Elvis,etc, he should be in the R and R hall of Fame, nice logic.
cheat, cheat, and cheat some more, and when you get caught, do the right thing, lie!
February 11th, 2012 at 6:11 PM |
No, I was saying "name a
No, I was saying "name a
No, I was saying "name a bunch of artists who have done what kid rock has done" and you named the most talented musicians in the history of rock and roll to compare him to. Although you probably still won't see the irony in saying he sucks and comparing him Elvis all in the same breath.
February 11th, 2012 at 3:40 PM |
There's no such thing as a
There's no such thing as a
There's no such thing as a rockabilly chart or an opera chart. Making rockabilly music and charting with it is not the same thing as charting on three different chart genres. Please don't insult my intelligence and make shit up at the same time.
"We've beaten Michigan the last four years. So where's the threat?"
- Mark Dantonio
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February 11th, 2012 at 5:38 PM |
Ok, then list the 4
Ok, then list the 4
Ok, then list the 4 categories he's charted in. And there is a rock a billy category, shows how much yo uknow.
cheat, cheat, and cheat some more, and when you get caught, do the right thing, lie!
February 11th, 2012 at 6:34 PM |
I'll go one better, I'll give
I'll go one better, I'll give
I'll go one better, I'll give you 12:
Hot 100
Billboard 200
Rock Songs
Rock Albums
Country Songs
Pop Songs
Radio Songs
Adult Contemporary
Alternative Songs
Alternative Albums
Hard Rock Albums
I didn't bother listing the European, Japanese charts, etc. Go find me the Billboard Rockabilly chart.
"We've beaten Michigan the last four years. So where's the threat?"
- Mark Dantonio
Blogging the Virginia Cavaliers at http://fromoldvirginia.blogspot.com/<
February 11th, 2012 at 6:49 PM |
You're shitting me right.
You're shitting me right.
You're shitting me right. How many of these categories weren't around when all the ones I mentioned were around. Jesus, anybody can make up categories, get a clue. Rock songs, Rock albums, Pop songs, Radio songs, Alternative songs, Alternative albums, Hard Rock albums and Hot 100 were not around. You're makin this up right, holy shit, I've never heard of this, oh my God this is funny. Radio songs? This is hilarious, now I know you'remaking this up, nice try though.
cheat, cheat, and cheat some more, and when you get caught, do the right thing, lie!
February 11th, 2012 at 7:03 PM |
Billboard.com. They're all
Billboard.com. They're all
Billboard.com. They're all Billboard categories. It's right fucking here:
http://www.billboard.com/#/artist/kid-rock/chart-history/12517
You're the dumbass trying to tell me there's a rockabilly chart and you're accusing me of making shit up. How rich is that?? You're the dumbass trying to tell me that the Hot 100 wasn't around for Carl Perkins - hey, guess what, it started in 1958. You might as well quit while you're behind.
"We've beaten Michigan the last four years. So where's the threat?"
- Mark Dantonio
Blogging the Virginia Cavaliers at http://fromoldvirginia.blogspot.com/<
February 11th, 2012 at 4:33 PM |
Your reaching with some of those acts.
Your reaching with some of those acts.
Wayne Newton and Ritchie Valenz, seriously? You're making the case against your point with more than a few of those listed.
We get that you hate Kid Rock, but why? Did he do something to you? Steal your girlfriend or something? While he might not be your cup of tea you cannot deny that he has musical talent. The guy can play every instrument on stage and most if not all of the ones on his albums.
"... never forget that Ohio is still a four-letter word."
-Bob Ufer
February 11th, 2012 at 3:28 PM |
Not knowing what Carl Perkins
Not knowing what Carl Perkins
Not knowing what Carl Perkins did tells me you know nothing about music,case closed.
cheat, cheat, and cheat some more, and when you get caught, do the right thing, lie!
February 11th, 2012 at 3:30 PM |
Lots of acts have charted
Lots of acts have charted
Lots of acts have charted different categories, please don't tell me this is your basis for KR getting into the R and R Hall of Fame because it's weak.
cheat, cheat, and cheat some more, and when you get caught, do the right thing, lie!
February 11th, 2012 at 12:41 PM |
I don't really have a dog in
I don't really have a dog in
I don't really have a dog in this fight, but if you personally consider Bob Seger the ultimate musical authority, then shouldn't you take him at his word when he praises Kid Rock?
February 11th, 2012 at 1:07 PM |
Seger is probably the musical
Seger is probably the musical
Seger is probably the musical authority in Michigan, but who's he to praise about Michigan music now days, Eminem, Uncle Kracker. Kid Rock wins by default.
cheat, cheat, and cheat some more, and when you get caught, do the right thing, lie!
February 11th, 2012 at 1:31 PM |
Oops
Oops
February 11th, 2012 at 3:24 PM |
and
and
Don't forget that dude on Glee.
Oh, Madonna , too.
February 11th, 2012 at 2:33 PM |
I'm sorry but
I'm sorry but
Eminem is the best lyricist of the musical generation, over any genre.
"A Michigan man will coach Michigan."
February 11th, 2012 at 4:37 PM |
Dude, why so much hate on the Michigan music scene?
Dude, why so much hate on the Michigan music scene?
Detroit/Michigan can compare its resume with just about anywhere.
"... never forget that Ohio is still a four-letter word."
-Bob Ufer
February 11th, 2012 at 11:46 AM |
Say what you will about Kid
Say what you will about Kid
Say what you will about Kid Rock's methods but he's a tireless defender of the city and for that, I'm a fan. There's certainly nothing false or phony about him. And yes, I do like his music, too.
"We've beaten Michigan the last four years. So where's the threat?"
- Mark Dantonio
Blogging the Virginia Cavaliers at http://fromoldvirginia.blogspot.com/<
February 11th, 2012 at 12:06 PM |
He is like an authentic
He is like an authentic
He is like an authentic Nickelback
February 11th, 2012 at 11:48 AM |
Bob has
Bob has
NEVER laid down for anyone. His language is colorful but his message is spot-on. He has always stuck to his principles. Even when he was married to Pam Anderson he would not "Go Hollywood" and remaind true.
I knew him way back in the day and he has "kept it real" his entire life.
From the Red Cedar Message Board: "God hates us." Yes He does Lil Bro, yes he does. Everyone hates you.
February 11th, 2012 at 11:50 AM |
There are a lot of "real"
There are a lot of "real"
There are a lot of "real" things that aren't admirable.
February 11th, 2012 at 12:02 PM |
I'm sure we could pillor people you like.
I'm sure we could pillor people you like.
Seeing that all beings are flawed, I don't think it wise to castigate someone for their personal foibles. Kid Rock's behavior has not hurt anyone that I know of and he has made efforts to help others. At the end of the day that puts him in the "good guy" category in my book even with the excessive drinking, womanizing, and drug use. What bad acts he committs he does to himself. He will suffer the consequences in time for that bahavior. Hopefully for him it won't be fatal.
"The Ruhr will not be subjected to a single bomb. If an enemy bomber reaches the Ruhr, my name is not Hermann Göring: you can call me Urban Meyer!"
February 11th, 2012 at 12:39 PM |
Good luck with that. I hate
Good luck with that. I hate
Good luck with that.
I hate everyone, so you'll have a tough time skewering people I like.
P.S. He used to be a drug dealer, so he didn't just hurt himself.
February 11th, 2012 at 1:42 PM |
Selling a few joints
Selling a few joints
while techically is illegal, I would not call a "Drug Dealer".
From the Red Cedar Message Board: "God hates us." Yes He does Lil Bro, yes he does. Everyone hates you.
February 11th, 2012 at 2:56 PM |
A person who sells drugs is a
A person who sells drugs is a
A person who sells drugs is a dealer of drugs or a "drug dealer." And even if you disagree about that (although there's no real reason to do so), you've admitted that he sold drugs. I don't like him. He's a tool, he writes and performs shitty music, and he used to sell drugs. The fact that he represents Detroit, or at least pretends to, is a disgrace to the city.
It's pretty sad that when we're looking for champions of the city of Detroit, Kid Rock's efforts are praised so heavily.
Pardon me while I look for some better Detroit role models.
February 11th, 2012 at 3:07 PM |
My recommendation is to...
My recommendation is to...
...get off your high horse about Kid Rock's past indiscretions. The guy genuinely cares about Detroit and is trying to make a difference with his Kid Rock Foundation.
I doubt that you really think the only people who are worthy of respect are those with pristine backgrounds.
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February 11th, 2012 at 7:19 PM |
Get off your high horse
Get off your high horse
so he sold a little weed when he was a kid.... so what? You must be perfect. He's done more for this area than pretty much anyone. He constantly gives back to the community and is always "repping" Michigan. Unless you're doing more to help Detroit, you should just keep your garbage opinions to yourself
February 11th, 2012 at 11:53 AM |
KR has
KR has
remainded loyal to Detroit his entire life. He would perform concerts and dontate the proceeds to charity. No one can claim they love Detroit MORE than KR. He IS Detroit.
February 11th, 2012 at 12:43 PM |
It's hard to "be Detroit"
It's hard to "be Detroit"
It's hard to "be Detroit" when you didn't grow up there and you don't live there.
I suppose Denard Robinson "is East Lansing" because he lives about an hour away from there.
February 11th, 2012 at 12:53 PM |
According to Sparty logic,
According to Sparty logic,
According to Sparty logic, it's hard to be a Michigan fan when you didn't go there, but some of us are anyway. It's not like it's his fault his parents lived in Romeo when he was born. Similar to how you don't have to have actually attended U-M to be a fan, I don't see why he should have to maintain a dwelling within the city limits to "be Detroit."
"We've beaten Michigan the last four years. So where's the threat?"
- Mark Dantonio
Blogging the Virginia Cavaliers at http://fromoldvirginia.blogspot.com/<
February 11th, 2012 at 1:00 PM |
You can be a fan of Detroit
You can be a fan of Detroit
You can be a fan of Detroit without living there, but to "be Detroit", I'm sorry, but you ought to have the balls to live there.
Some people might claim to be fans of the University of Michigan who never attended, but they probably wouldn't/shouldn't claim to "be the University of Michigan."
It might be a subtle difference, but there's a distinction.
February 11th, 2012 at 4:46 PM |
Have the balls to live there?
Have the balls to live there?
What exactly are you trying to say? The way you worded that sounds like some caller on a national sports radio show tiredly bagging on Detroit when they have never even visited. I would assume that is not your case, but that is certainly they way that comment sounds.
"... never forget that Ohio is still a four-letter word."
-Bob Ufer
February 11th, 2012 at 11:10 PM |
By that logic,
By that logic,
if I wanted to "be" Argentina, I would have to live in Argentina or at least visit Argentina. I am having none of that!
February 11th, 2012 at 4:48 PM |
It's hard to "be Detroit"
It's hard to "be Detroit"
It's hard to "be Detroit" when you didn't grow up there and you don't live there.
This stupid city-vs-suburb mentality is just poisonous to the Detroit area. Most other metropolitan areas don't get as hung up on this stuff (and consequently, their suburbs and central city actually find ways to cooperate once in a while).
Kid Rock is from Metro Detroit. That counts as "Detroit" to most of the world.
February 11th, 2012 at 5:46 PM |
Hell I even
Hell I even
tell people that I am from Detroit. I have never lived south of M-59 but I am "from Detroit" and proud of it.
I dont get why people want to put a wall up at 8 Mile Rd.
From the Red Cedar Message Board: "God hates us." Yes He does Lil Bro, yes he does. Everyone hates you.
February 11th, 2012 at 6:31 PM |
Hey, just "be Indianapolis"
Hey, just "be Indianapolis"
and swallow them all up - Unigov! In general, I think just about every other metropolitan area has city vs suburbs issues to some degree. Not sure what the perfect answers are...
February 11th, 2012 at 12:30 PM |
Go get em Kid Rock
Go get em Kid Rock
3 cheers for KR. I have no problem whatsoever with the response or the language. Well done.
February 11th, 2012 at 2:14 PM |
Kid Rock bought a spot in
Kid Rock bought a spot in
Kid Rock bought a spot in Malibu forever ago dude. Not Hollywood but pretty damn close. Maybe you just meant it as he didn't up and abandon Detroit (his main residence is in Clarkston I believe), and move out to LA like so many stars of any sort do, but he's definitely got a spot out in Cali and spends a decent amount of time out there. Where do you think he first crossed paths with her? Clarkston?
February 11th, 2012 at 2:28 PM |
Can't blame the dude. Are
Can't blame the dude. Are
Can't blame the dude. Are you in Southeast MI right now? Look outside.
February 11th, 2012 at 2:42 PM |
My handle is no bullshit, and
My handle is no bullshit, and
My handle is no bullshit, and it is currently 67 and partially cloudy today my friend. Clearwater, FL, man. I don't blame him either, I was just responding to above poster that he may not have went "Hollywood" per se, but he did to some degree or he would have probably never met Pam.
February 11th, 2012 at 5:49 PM |
He met Pam
He met Pam
at an Award Show not at the Hollywood Kroger. I own a cabin in Northern Michigan, does that make me "Not From Detroit" because I own a home in a "white" part of the state. Your argument is flawed.
From the Red Cedar Message Board: "God hates us." Yes He does Lil Bro, yes he does. Everyone hates you.
February 11th, 2012 at 11:50 AM |
If you click on the link in
If you click on the link in
If you click on the link in the OP, you can read the entire letter (which is much longer than what was quoted above). If you can get past the salty language, he raises some legitimate points.
February 11th, 2012 at 11:57 AM |
Hilarious. Kid Rock's music is okay.
Hilarious. Kid Rock's music is okay.
I don't know who Susan Tompor is nor do I know why Kid Rock responded to so. But Kid Rock's line to cordially invite her to go fuck herself is classic. I'd like to extend the same expression to Marky D.
If you don't like KId Rock, I;'d like to cordially invite you to go fuck yourself.(hehe)
Seriously, what does his talent or lack thereof, have to do with anything?
"The Ruhr will not be subjected to a single bomb. If an enemy bomber reaches the Ruhr, my name is not Hermann Göring: you can call me Urban Meyer!"
Anybody can chart nowdays, it's a joke. Shows do't put you in the R and R Hall of Fame.
cheat, cheat, and cheat some more, and when you get caught, do the right thing, lie!