OT-Josh Gordon faces season long suspension
THE DAY after they draft Manziel. This is amazing.
For the love of god, just legalize this drug already.
How about you're making millions so put down the joints for a few years, play ball, get rich, retire at 30 and smoke all the weed you want then?
Because the stuff at GNC can make you better, which is why it's banned. Weed is not a performance enhancing drug. It's just a lot of fun. It shouldn't be illegal for NFL players to smoke it.
You do realize that an employer can make anything they want llegal right? If i'm not mistaken UPS drivers cannot have any alcohol in their system when they are out driving hence if they want to party they need to allot enough time to sober up even though it's not a crime unless your over .08 in most states. Legalizing it has nothing to do with it.
Yeah I get that. When I say it should be legal, I mean for the players. As in, it shouldn't be a drug they test for.
This is a common misconception. It is not "legal" to drive with a BAC below .08. Anyone who is deemed to be "impaired" can be convicted. Having a BAC measured at or above .08 simply means you are presumed to be impaired in most jurisdictions. California, for example, hits drivers with two charges, one for impairment and one for having a measured BAC at or above the legal limit, which is another crime by statute.
In Ontario you get tagged at .05.
True, but I'm fairly certain that weed is probably on the NFL's banned substance list due to the fact that it's illegal. It actually wouldn't make much sense to not have it on a banned list if it isn't legal. If it were legalized, I imagine it would probably be taken off the list, seeing as it isn't any more harmful than alcohol.
Alcohol would hurt performance significantly worse than cannabis and there is no policy against it. Pot has been found to have neuroprotective properties where alcohol can have damaging effects on the brain days after you haven't had a drop.
There are more ways to ingest marijuana than smoking it.
had some ethanol in their system. Doesn't a small amount get produced and then some enzyme in your liver is there for the purpose of breaking it down?
there is a difference between banned and illegal. the NFL can do what they want and its up to the players to learn to live with it, just like any other job in this country
So Walmart could issue an edict that all of it's employees can't eat on Tuesdays or will otherwise be fired?
No, they can't actually do that. It wouldn't just be a PR nightmare, it would be considered wrongful termination due to unreasonable demands (you also can't fire someone because they won't go live on the Sun).
Employers can't actually do whatever the hell they want in this country. They used to, and then they abused it and we passed laws making that illegal.
These guys are getting paid huge amounts of money to play a game. There are plenty of rec leagues that will allow you to smoke weed and play ball. If the NFL says don't do something, don't do it.
The merits of it being "legal" or not doesn't really matter. My employer has all kinds of rules I find silly...but I follow them and stay employed.
Also this is silly. It's Friday, grab beer, smoke a doob (unless you are in the NFL) and have a good time.
I worked for a well known tech company where getting caught smoking a goddamned perfectly legal cigarette was grounds for termination, even when off company property, and even when off the clock. Matter of fact, they'd have building security send some one out to do hourly sweeps of the property and a little bit off of it with a major focus on finding smokers. A guy I know actually lost his job over it while "getting caught" smoking a cigarette by supervisor outside a coffee shop a block away before his shift (not company time).
It's complete bullshit, but like others have said, a company/organization has the right to ban any substance or activity (that's not protected under the anti-discrimation act) which it feels is not in it's best interest for their employees to partake in.
Could Coke fire employees if they drank a Pepsi in the lunch room or at home? If a company bans its employees from eating carrots, would that be within their rights? What about banning its employees from drinking water? Just curious -- you're saying the employees wouldn't have any legal recourse for something like that?
If what you are doing is not protected by the anti-discrimation act, it's my understanding that you have no legal recourse for a stupid silly reason for termination (like smoking or drinking Pepsi). Additionally, most states aren't required to give a reason for termination. So, if management is smart enough to utlilize the company's right to terminate without formal cause and just say "you're fired" without an explaination (and you're in a non-service letter state), then there most certainly isn't anything you can do about it.
I spent 10 years at a well known tech company where they gave us free beer on Friday, and a not insignificant % of the developer base spent their weekends baked out of their minds. I'm guessing your tech company wasn't on the west coast like mine was.
It was in Arizona (unsurprisingly), and it was a company that gave the impression to it's consumers and the public that it was a wild and crazy place. Yeah, not so much.
Ironically everyone thought we were a bunch of stick-in-the-mud suit-wearing IBM types.which was about 180 degrees from reality. One guy I worked with for 3 years and I don't think I ever saw him wear actual shoes to work even once. I don't think he had cut his hair in a decade either (yes, this guy was the actual definition of a long-hared hippie). Just goes to show you don't really know what goes on at a company unless you are on the inside I guess. As long as you weren't customer-facing they didn't really care about anything as long as you worked hard and didn't get yourself arrested. They probably would have gotten pissed at people for smoking pot at work but as long as people did it at home, kept it private and didn't come to work baked, it just wasn't an issue. I probably caused more problems coming to work sleep-dreprived from MMORPG-addictions than any of the pot-heads did. :)
Late response, but yes, you obviously know exactly what company I am talking about.
a growing list of employers in fact, prohibit the use of tobacco products. Test positive for nicotine in your urine, you're fired just as surely as if you had opiates or THC in your system.
teachers could get fired for drinking.
Not that I know of. As long as you're not doing it around students or have a bunch of drunk pics on facebook and twitter, you're fine.
The legality and the suspension are undeniably correlated. I realize it sounds really mature and responsible to say, just stop smoking it, like any other job, make your money then party on but the reality is if it wasn't illegal and it doesn't enhance your performance there woudl be no reason for the NFL to ban it. Case in point-- players don't get suspended for smoking tabacco, yet it reflects poorly on both the league and the individul smoking.
Oh jeez, don't put those two things in the same category.
Look - if there's a rule against it, I agree you shouldn't do it. But outside of "it's against the rules" there's no good reason not to.
Legalize this plant already. Not drug.
Hear, hear! It's actually a vegetable we should eat like broccoli and lettuce (the whole thing -- flowers, stems, leaves, and seeds). If it's consumed raw, it's not even psychoactive and actually way more superhealthy for you than anything else out there deemed to be a superfood. If it's ingested after being heated, it's still pretty healthy and also enjoyable and safe. It's not just ridiculous for it to be illegal or banned by any state or organization, it's actually an outrageous assualt on our collective health, as it's somethng from which we, the human species, evolved over hundreds of thousands of year to derive a substantial amount of benefit. The collective ignorance and acceptance by the general population kills us all a little more every day.
Cocaine is not a plant, it is a derivative of a plant. You don't snort coca leaves, nor smoke them. Opium isn't a plant, again, it is a derivative of a plant. Cannabis is a plant. This is fact.
The end.