Does anyone else think that the whole Jim Tressel ceremony today was a way for OSU to basically throw up an enormous middle finger to the rest of the world. I can't help but wonder if that they don't land Urban Meyer and/or their season is not going the way it is, he's not there.
OT: Jim Tressel today
Yep, I agree. I don't think Ohio State sees anything wrong with what happened, because they're arrogant pricks.
Who cares? And if you think the exact same thing wouldn't happen if the whole Fab 5 showed up at a Michigan basketball game, you're crazy.
Just thinking aloud. it was kinda bugging me and I'm trying to take my mind off what I just saw.
But that hasn't happened, and it's 20 years afterwards. Likely never will. So how is this relevant?
But that's the point. Those banners will never be hung at Chrisler, and the Fab Five will most likely not be invited back for acknowledgment. Ohio just honored a guy who lied to the NCAA 3 times in the same investigation.
But the whole Fab Five didn't show up the year after sanctions killed our program. It's ridiculous and arrogant for Ohio to have brought back Tressel for this game. It just highlighted the lack of teeth the NCAA has, and the amount of butt kissing Delaney did during this whole controversy.
Oh, hey, yeah... we got drilled again, 10 yrs out of 11, but what about that Tressel guy.
Patently untrue. This thread would have been up regardless of the outcome.
Ignore any wrong doing that may have occured and act like nothing matters but the result.
While Michigan, on the other hand, takes down banners, and basically refuses to acknowledge the Fab Five until penance has been completed. Which, until Webber admits any culpability, will never happen. A stark difference.
Sacrificing Dignity for Victory since their inception
You guys are a trip. They fired him. You know that right? Fired. As in he is not employed by the university. When you do something dumb, does your mom refuse to acknowledge your existence for forever, or does she scold you, then go back to loving you afterward? Get real. JT did too much for the Columbus-area to let the fact he lied about tattoos ban him from OSU sports forever.
That would be news to Gee, Smith and Tressel if true.
"Coach Tressel will retire from The Ohio State University effictive June 30, 2011" - Gordon Gee/Gene Smith
"I am grateful for this opportunity to retire from the university that I so deeply respect and that I will continue to support" - Jim Tressel
Okay. He was fired. You really think he wasn't forced out?
tressell still gets retirement and insurance from ohio state. that is the opposite of fired. you delusional buckeyes are a trip.
Yes or No, is JT the coach if tat-gate doesn't happen? He was fired.
I tend to like getting a rational view from the other side but "for forever" GTFO with that garbage. Dude was a cheat at Youngstown buckeyes didn't care he won. Dude was a cheat and a liar at Ohio and you have just proven you don't care. Great morals being taught there, or did you not go there to play school either? Seriously, the fu#*
Wouldn't expect anything less from them. They obviously saw nothing wrong with what they did through the whole process. Can't blame them for what amounts to paying players. How else would they get talented football players who could go anywhere for college? It's Columbus... which is in Ohio
It was their way to close that chapter, ignoring the fraud, cheating and lies.
Tressel will never coach Ohio ever again.
They opened a new chapter in the rivarly today with Meyer.
I found it funny that they cheered for the man responsible for them not going to a national championship this year
The whole thing was pure OSU, a football factory masquerading as a place of higher learning. Cheering a guy who lied and cheated in order to gain a competitive advantage. Beyond pathetic.
You're right, we should feather and tar Tressel!
The ceremony you are referring to was not about Tressel, it was about the 2002 national championship team.
Btw, good game today. This Meyer/Hoke rivalry should be a doozy.
Uh, the former players picked him up and carried him off the field and the crowd went crazy as it was shown on the big screen. They made sure their feeling for Tressel were known.
So honor the 2002 team sans The Senator. Bringing him back and putting him on your shoulders is the FU to the NCAA.
OSU, where all our legendary coaches flame out in disgrace.
Tar and feather? You just don't get it.....
It's bad enough when non michigan people do it. The Fab Five did not take money from Ed Martin...Chris Webber & 3 other players (Taylor, Traylor, Bullock) did. Giving those 3 a pass while besmirching King, Howard, and Jackson (Rose later admitted to taking some but was not part of NCAA decision) is crap.
Plus honoring Webber plus in 2002 would have been inappropriate just like this was for osu.
watching the game, and he thought it was a classless gesture.
Maybe I missed it, but was Maurice Clarett there? Do Ohio fans feel as warm and fuzzy about him as they do Tressel?
Maurice was there, and Ohio State fans have started to appreciate him more lately.
There is no justice when it comes to the NCAA. Period.
The message is: cheat away. There will be no serious penalty.
it'll be the best season nobody gives two shits about. smu had some great seasons during the 80s. the only reason anybody knows about it now is due to the 30 for 30.
its almost nicer to see them get so close and be denied.
Have fun in your bowl game, you pecker neck bastar.....oh wait....
Have fun watching Michigan in their bowl while you have nothing to show for skating through a cupcake schedule.
The man was one of the best coaches Ohio State has had. Some of his players made some dumb choices, and he attempted to protect them. He paid for it. Why shouldn't they honor him? It's not like his players were on steroids or actually cheating.
He enabled the whole thing you fool.
He attempted to protect his team's chances of winning a bowl game. It's cut-and-dried. Christ, even he grudgingly acknowledged same. And let's not even get into all the payola that went on during his tenure.
My friend are a fucking ratard
Paying players is cheating. Covering it up is also cheating.
It wasn't right when it happened with Michigan basketball and it wasn't right when it happened with Ohio football.
The whole program was cheating. The cheating helped recruiting - otherwise they would have been less successful. What more do you need?
Honoring Tressel was unbelievably arrogant, but that's what they are.
"I'm going to Ohio State because then I can trade rings for tattos valued at $200 instead of the school I really want to go to. The tattoos make it worth it." -Said literally no one ever.
nope said Pryor and clarett
lol. nice try troll
It was stupidly ironic to celebrate the legacy of a guy whose indiscretion and lying led to Ohio State's bowl suspension in the first place
in the American character that just insists on ugly. OSU fans were displaying it today. The worst thing is that the ugly incident clearly has the backing of the administration.
Glad not to be associated with the place. On the other hand, fans looking at the B1G from outside these days do not get the idea it's a very pretty place.
correct me if i'm wrong but wasn't tressel banned from osu facilities for 5 years or something? or was that just pryor?
That just shows you how clueless the OSU fans are. Hey let's celebrate the man whose actions have destroyed our chances in competing for the NC... Stay classy...
...and that's the problem. They talk about integrity and compliance, but then they laugh about their transgressions when caught and try to act like the victim. If Gene Smith and Gordon Gee worked for UM, the regents would have fired them last year or sooner. Instead, they work for a school that is defined by its football team, so we get life lessons on integrity such as:
Has a guy ever been given a standing ovation at a game where he cost that team a possible chance at the national title?
"I'll let you talk about that, I'll let you handle that," Ohio State AD Gene Smith said with a laugh at halftime. "We anticipated a warm reception for him. We didn't know the players would pick him up."
Smith, in fact, defended his decision to play in a bowl game last year. "We had a lot of people, a lot of experts in the room," Smith said. "We made the best decision we thought we should make at the moment. Do I still disagree with [the NCAA decision]? One hundred percent."
Smith reasoned that the Buckeyes ended up a victim of a more forceful NCAA, a reality that manifested itself in the ruling against Penn State.
They, like many teams, have put winning above all else. Maybe I'm naive, but I believe winning the right (ethical) way is the only way to win. I think Hoke wants us to do it the right way, and I hope he is able to.
Also, regarding the OSU record from 76 to 2000, people often forget how streaky of a rivalry this is. If you look at the history, the series began with a period of Michigan dominance, then ohio ruled the late 20s to mid 30s (except for a couple of solid years by Michigan), then Michigan ruled the 40s, then ohio ruled the 50s and 60s until Bo arrived. Michigan ruled the rivalry from 88 to 2000, and now ohio does. Outside of the period of 1969-1987, this rivalry has been lopsided for decades at a time.
Hopefully, our turn is coming soon (I'd be happy with another 10 year war).