Remember the ESPN editor who was fired for using the phrase "chink in the armor" to describe Lin's turnover problems? Lin reached out and had lunch with him. This isn't related to anything Michigan at all, just thought it was interesting how much classier Lin is than most NBA players.
OT- Jeremy Lin is a class act
True, could have been better said that Lin was countering some of the general perceptions of the league and its image problem. Runs in the same vein as a baseball player speaking out against steriod use.
He is Chuck Norris. Of course he is well connected.
Right because the majority haven't made it obvious in their public image.
I'm legitimately curious here. Are there even ten (out of the ~400) active NBA players who you have strong reason to believe are assholes? I mean, I'll give you JR Smith and Zach Randolph, but is there anyone else who makes it "obvious" in their "public image"?
As a counterpoint, I'll say that my personal experience (within both realms) leads me to believe that a higher percentage of MGoMembers are egregious dickheads than are NBA players.
But I really was talking about the superstars/headliners (of course I neglected to mention that part which is kind of important); the NBA markets itself with its superstars and the ones who get the most headlines seem to be immature and selfish. LeBron, Shaq, Metta World Peace, Stephon Marbury, Allen Iverson, I could go on. Granted this may be the case for any athlete/celebrity, I just think the point that someone in that position with that kind of attention is doing a selfless act is getting lost in nit-pickiness over wordings.
Calling someone out for offhandedly disparaging hundreds of men on zero grounds is not, in my opinion, nitpicking.
And I'm glad you've decided to bring some evidence, but I think it's a bit telling that three of your five "superstars" are no longer in the league, and a fourth is currently a rotation player. When you say you could go on are you thinking of Derrick Rose? Or Kevin Durant? Or Dwight Howard or Blake Griffin or Dwyane Wade or Kevin Love or Chris Paul or Brandon Jennings? Do you think any of these guys are somehow worse human beings than a median Fortune 500 middle manager or the pharmacist at your Walgreens?
Okay if we are taking the argument to that of general human nature, then yes I will agree with you that the actions of NBA players, be they selfish or selfless, are likely in line with how the vast majority of human beings - all of us here on this board included - would act given their life circumstances, upbringing, privileges, shortcomings, or any life event that shapes one's moral being. I'm simply responding to the backlash the OP received to the statement "it was interesting how much classier Lin is than most NBA players." I feel this is probably an accurate statement given the kind of press we usually see from the league. Is it fair? Maybe/maybe not. But it is as immeasurable as "recruiting rankings accuracy." So it's nothing more than an opinion given my limited perspective, just as your statement is.
I'll allow it!
How about Ron Artest?
I'm assuming you can count to ten.
2. Kobe Bryant does the naughty with a little one in Colorado
3. Ron Artest and Stephen Jackson beating down random fans in the crowd
4. "We make a lot of money but we spend a lot of money" - Pat Ewing
5. Robert Horry towel into coaches face.
6. Spree attacks coach
7. Spree - I've got to feed my family
8. Allen Iverson's life
9. Sheed - "CTC" cut the check
10. Arenas acting out scenes from "The Town" with pistol in locker room
11. Arenas doing the shooting motion with his hands after said gun incident
12. "Taking talents" to many places
13. Teamwide boycotts of coaches
When shall I stop.
So none of that kind of stuff goes on in any other league? Are MLB, NFL and NHL players choirboys?
If you want to criticize professional athletes in general for being dubious role models, I necessarily wouldn't disagree, but I don't understand focusing exclusively on the NBA. It was the first league to adopt a salary cap, the first to adopt drug-testing, and is the only one to adopt a dress code, and probably has fewer fights than any of the other three sports.
Why should MLB get a free pass when 1) its players still won't accept a salary cap; 2) its players wouldn't accept any drug testing until there was a national outcry; 3) amphetamine use is still believed to be widespread (so much so that players who compete without it are said to be "naked"); 4) several players have been indicted by the feds for perjury; 5) players have gone after fans on more than one occasion; 6) the sport culturally sanctions pitchers throwing at players' heads in "retaliation" for hitting home runs. And on and on. You can come up with these lists for any sport.
they just wanted 10 examples so I gave them. While these kinds of actions are not confined solely to the NBA, do you see Jeremy Lin doing them? So it looks like the OP is correct, Jeremy Lin is a class act, and many NBA players are not.
A. Shit-talking, player-coach spats, and extra-marital sex in pro sports?! [Gasps, reaches for smelling salts]
B. Again, given all the venom people see fit to hurl at today's NBA, it would be nice if a majority of your list actually involved current players. It does not.
C. What jmblue said
was meant in comparison to other stories regarding NBA players that generally make the news. The same could be said about any other professional sport. Perhaps it is more a commentary on the media's belief that a shocking/bad story sells better. That was the thought going through my head, but I ended up poorly wording it.
Perhaps now I know how Mr. Federico feels.
However, I'm also Chuck friggin' Norris, so I can do whatever the hell I want.
He had no obligation to meet with the editor and could have just wrote him off as a racist clown. Good for him to meet the guy and bring closure to the situation.
That editor is still an idiot, but I am pretty impressed with Lin for taking the time out of his schedule to meet with the guy.
Glad that is settled. Now if only Lin could take care of the rock...
would it become Linner?
his turnovers have been coming down quite a bit.... actually baron davis' turnovers are the real statistical outliers (i.e., 9 on Monday's game).
Damn this is impressive
Not to take anything away from this as an admirable action, but why does every single mention of the NBA on this blog have to reference how despicable the league and/or its players are? You don't have to like the league, but those of us who follow it closely know that there's no reason to think most players aren't by and large good people.
The constant signling out of the NBA is curious. The problems associated with its players aren't too different from those of other leagues and in some cases may be milder (PED use in basketball is probably considerably lower in the NBA than it is in the NFL/MLB, for instance), but somehow the implication is that other sports are full of upstanding citizens.
Not necessarily trying to equate the two, but if a black player used the "N" word in his email handle does that make it appropriate for an ESPN reporter to use that word in a headline about the player?
MY racism is worse than YOUR racism! Nanny-nanny-boo-boo!
ALL racism is equally bad, there is no fucking Richter scale for racism.
Unless we're talking about the Irish.
I think he was trying to say that the ESPN writer could have been acting in a non-racist (still stupid, no doubt, but not intentionally racist) manner, while if you type out N**** there is literally no other meaning of the word.
"Chink in the armor" is an acceptable phrase used in the English language, and was innapropriate due to context. There is no context in which the use of the n-word is okay.
FWIW, if that's what he's saying than I agree; using N***** in a title is much worse than the title ESPN put out in the Lin article, although that was still uncalled for (unless someone can demonstrate that he wrote it to be racist).
Unless its in the title of Kanye West and Jay-Z's latest single.
Yeah, but even in that instance they are balling so hard that motherf***ers wanna fine them.
was meant to be humerous (at least I took it that way, +1 because it is), but in all seriousness, if Rolling Stone had written a headline about Kanye and Jay-Z being N****'s in Paris, it would be inexcusable.
If Lin had written the "Chink in the Armor" headline, the discussion on it would be very different. It's an important distinction.
Unless it were written by a black author and thus the worst word in the world would then be complimentary right?
You're telling me that you actually believe that the writer may not have meant that word as a reference to Lin's race? You must be pretty naive. People who write headlines are in the business of coming up with puns.
You don't have to be able to "read minds" to decipher that that headline was meant as a pun, you simply have to look at the context.
If you believe that he didn't mean it in that way, you will believe anything.
Not only that, but your original post defended the headline based on Lin's email handle when he was in high school. That is what I was responding to.
The editor is married to an Asian woman and they have a half Asian baby. I'd be surprised if he said chink on purpose. Freudian slip perhaps? "chink in the armor" is actually a phrase that has been used thousands of times by the almighty ESPN when describing teams beginning to fall apart.
I'm not saying he's racist. I'm just saying that it was a reference to Lin's race in the headline. My only explanation is that he didn't realize how offensive the word is. There were infinite Chinese puns that were used in Lin headlines. Perhaps he just thought that he didn't think he was crossing any lines. But it's really difficult to believe that he didn't mean it as a play on words.
Given the editor's wife and all, it was not meant to be racist. But it was DEFINITELY meant as a pun. Nearly all Lin headlines have been puns, and many, many headlines are meant to be puns. He should have known better or is an idiot.
I absolutely LOVE it when the public tries to determine whether or not someone they don't know is, in fact, a racist, bigotted, sexist jerk. The evidence is always so convincing, for both sides of the argument.
"Well he has friends who are ________, so obviously he's not."
"One time, when he dropped a bowling ball on his toe, I heard him say ________, he's obviously a huge racist"
"His team is mostly composed of ___________ and he's been to _______, therefore, not racist."
"Well he obviously wouldn't have ________ if he wasn't a raging a-hole bigot."
It's Max Bretos, who used the phrase on air, who has the Asian wife and half-Asian baby. And I have no doubt whatsoever that his was an honest mistake.
If you use it with Lin, it's a problem. If you refer to Michael Jordan as an owner (or heck, a tipper) as "niggardly", good luck keeping your job after that one. Even though it predates the slur and has no dictionary similarity in definition. But it's the context. Call Donald Sterling that and you'll get "and that may be the best thing about him." if you really think it was just an accident, that he had been saving that one up, and it just popped out when the only Asian player had a bad night, I don't know what to tell you. Not sure he should be fired, anymore than "lynching" comment about Tiger Woods should have. But if you just say the root word "lynch", it's still not a slur.
...I especially admire that he declined to comment further about the lunch once it was done, because really, to be done was the whole point of this, it seems. That is pretty cool that Jeremy Lin reached out to this editor though - if nothing else, it shows what I would say is a pretty multi-dimensional view of life on Lin's part. The fact that he put it to rest in a personal manner, rather than an e-mail or letter or whatnot, says much about his leadership potential as a player and person really.
thats cool. All he does is lin lin lin no matter what.....Linsanity is dead though.
Lin doesn't like political correctness either. Yeah, the editor had a moron moment. But that is hardly criminal. Kudos to Lin for making an non story a non story again.
good to see one of ESPN darling boys isn't a jackass like Tebow.
Tebow is really the problem.
I must say that this generaion of college students is "wound way too tight"! I don't know who taught you to be sooooooooooo hyper sensitive but I find it really hard to use any sort of humor in the classroom without someone coming completely undone! Just sayin' . . .
Some person tweeted "chink" to him a few weeks ago and Jeremy simply replied "Jesus loves you and so do I" and he later tweeted how proud he is of his Asian heritage....class act all the way
What makes all the "innocent" Chinese puns even worse is that Lin isn't even Chinese . . . he's Taiwanese. Not even bothering to differentiate between Chinese and Taiwanese heritage can be seen as racist and ignorant in and of itself.
Taiwan and China are two totally different countries with totally different people, and Taiwanese culture has been striving to find its own identity and break away from China. Ask someone from Taiwan what they think about China; it will tell you everything you need to know.
Everything he has done in public has been all class.
There is never an excuse for racist comments and clever word play to make fun of someone. There are reasons of course. I, for one, get tired of trying to determine people being genuine when they when they first meet me and the first thing they try to establish is how many black people they know. I chalk it up to being uncomfortable with conversation and try no to look to deeply into it but have often wondered why it happens so often.
I prefer to let bigots speak there mind so I can make my own decisions as to whether I would do business with them, buy at there stores, etc... This media lynching of people who speak their mind has its draw backs. If corporations have been sponsoring your programs before, they probably know what you are about when they signed up. You look good though when you drop them though, right?
Where did all of the White Citizens Council people go? How does Jesse Jackson get away with calling a place Hymie Town? Especially when Jews helped in the in the Civil Rights marches. Why is the focus on the Trayvon Martin case? Because the topic of race will always be hot button issue in America...
Sports is the one place where people usually forget about it for a few hours at least.