ESPN just showed police and a construction crew around the Joe Pa statue. It looks like the statue will be coming down very soon.
OT: It looks like the statue is coming down today
As well it should.
This is the first step of many that Penn State must take voluntarily or public pressure will cause other sanctioning bodies to take it for them.
For anyone associated with PSU, this process is a bad dream that will replay itself for a long time to come as the criminal cases are tried/plea bargained and the civil suits resolved. Depending upon how deep the university is willing to go in terms of writing checks, this sordid tale could take a couple of years to run its course.
it took this long. If this was considered a "tough decision" then they are in for a very long rebuilding. I think the BOT should give themselves the death penalty without delay. This will give teams time to schedule other opponents, although this year might be too late.
I have said previously that if PSU football gets the death penalty, I will donate $100 to the PSU softball team.
ESPN just reported the statue is down and the NCAA will hand out "unprecedented penalties". Looks like the death penalty is coming.
I wouldn't be surprised if PSU made the decision awhile ago. They just wanted to wait for the kids to be distracted so they could grab it without having morons chaining themselves to it and the like. Plus likely had to bid the job out to a nonlocal crew to prevent leaks and all that.
Yup. PSU President Rodney Erickson issued a statement this morning
It doesn't deserve to be left up.
the statue away from its base as we speak. Only a few people around.
They're planning to take it down and "store it in a secure location". For what? Going to break it out for parties?
For the same reason we still have our bball final four banners...
Your powers of analogy are astounding. Hope you're proud!
Penn State president Rod Erickson said he decided to have the statue removed and put into storage because it "has become a source of division and an obstacle to healing." - from the article
That, right there. As long as it stood, it would be rather impossible for that campus to move forward, and it would have simply continued to serve as a reminder of what can happen when one person or program is allowed to become so large that basic humanity becomes secondary to the stated goal, which in the case of Penn State was "victory with honor". In the end, they failed to achieve that - quite miserably actually. To that end, the statue symbolizes something that was illusory and there is no point to its presence now.
Sorry for the dark humor, but it has a purpose. The PSU community needs to be deeply ashamed that it has been Pediophile State University for decades.
Wait, wait.... He took it down because it "has become a source of division and an obstacle to healing."?
These assholes still don't get it.
The reason the statue needs to come down is because Paterno covered for a child molester, not because it's a source of division and obstacle to healing.
The way the ESPN article read, it also sounds like this could be temporary, that the statue could be put back on display at some point. Also his name will remain on the library.
They really just don't get it.
Smart time to bring it down. Students sleeping. Staff not working.
and some justice has just been done. A very small part of justice but some just the same.
That's a tough call. Damned if you do, damned if you don't kind of thing.
It is more damned if you don't.
It would have always been a reminder of how Paterno failed to act.
They are starting to distance themselves from JoePa. This is a huge statement really. The symbolism is enormous. It's the right thing to do, but you know fans will protest, bitch and moan, and threaten to "boycott" Penn State games.
I know it's not much.
It's a somber day at Penn State. To hell with Penn State. This is a victory for all the victims. Many are still protecting the villains in this scandal. So sad for who? Not one tear should be shed today for Penn State, Joe Paterno and all the rest who covered up and supported the crimes. When is the media going to get it. I am elated for the victims who won a very small victory today. This lets them believe that their cause and their pain is being heard and that some damn athletic program is bigger or more important than they are.
Except he protected a child rapist.
How you came to that conclusion is beyond normal human decency.
did allow many more to be raped.
Yup. He only bought Jerry an ice cream truck. Solid truck though - ran without a hitch for 14 years until it finally died last November
Just like Joe did. Shame on you!
Let the record show that PSU has lived up to their reputaion in doing the absolute bare minimum.
They're keeping his name on the library, since after all you're supposed to keep your mouth shut in one.
So, when he does the right thing, he's not supposed to be remembered for that? I guess we should take Taubman's name off of all those buildings in Ann Arbor.
did alfred taubman assist pedophilia?
Statues of living people are weird to begin with. Too much hero worship is never a good thing.
"no coach is more important than the team". This is what happens when people don't pay attention.
1 = the number of times they needed to do the right thing to have prevented this.
I have a feeling they are "placing it in a secure location" so they can bring it back out at some point. They should destroy it right now. They are being cowardly by leaving themselves an out. Seems like they are hoping they can bring it back out in a few years when they think things have died down. Why else wouldnt you just destroy it? Also, they are keeping his name on the library, citing his significant financial contributions. That library was payed for with dirty money. They are only taking a half measure when a full measure is due. Storing the statue and continuing to honor Paterns legacy continues to show the country how out of touch and blind they are. The families of the victims and the Feds and the NCAA are not going to care that they took a statue and stuck it in a room somewhere. Actually, the NCAA might, just because I remain unconvinced they will do much of anything.
They still have the Paterno library, and I am certain have told alumnus that the statue will be back. I just can't fathom how their logic is working. They must be kicked out if the big ten. They will not sadly because of $.
What's a "secure location"? The Paterno's garage? There is no logical reason for this statue to still stand.
This is exactly why they should be slapped with the death penalty. Their indignation throughout this whole thing just proves that they don't get it. At this point, I don't care how the death penalty affects the university as a whole because they still seem to have their heads up their asses over there.
Less than a week ago, PSU said they wouldn't take it down out of fear of angering alumni. Wonder what finally made them come to their senses now.
Either way, this has still been embarrassing for the conference and I still want them out.
I would also wonder how the Paterno family is going to respond to this but they're probably too busy working with their investigator to debunk what they won't accept in the Freeh report.
I would assume that was a feint to prevent this from getting out of hand. The fact that it could get out of hand speaks to what still needs to happen there.
They're already releasing statements with the perspective you'd expect. That family is really a bunch of idiots. Their existance is to defend JoePa's legacy and only apologize to the kids when they feel politically forced to
From the Huffington Post:
"We believe the only way to help the victims is to uncover the full truth." - from the statement
You know, I read that and thought to myself, "If only someone had bothered to tell the truth years ago..." The entire statement really makes me think that this family has this particular image of Joe Paterno and they will not consider new information for years if ever. Interestingly, they do say that it is not the University's responsibility to defend or protect Joe Paterno, and in this they are correct - in a way, the removal of the statue is the beginning of a slow abdication of that responsibility.
Also PSU showing serious efforts to reduce the emphasis of their football program and allow victims to feel more comfortable when speaking out about being raped in PSU football facilities does help the victims.
even if it is only to satisfy themselves that it isn't the university piling on the dead guy.
Repeatedly coming out in public is nothing short of reprehensible, and I hope they don't get a pass just because they are in denial.
And it looks like NCAA is ready to rule on PSU. Link
But I work in media and a CBS news wire just came through indicating "unprecedented" penalties for penn state and that the source has "never seen anything like it".
Sounds like penn state is going to get hit HARD tomorrow morning by the NCAA.
Agreed. Either that or some financial deal to child abuse charities. Let the speculation commence.
"The saint in black cleats sold his soul, and Satan leads the dance." -- Maureen Dowd, New York Times 7/21/12
This is my idea but I'm not skilled enough to make this. I know this is in poor taste but it would be pretty funny.
Make a Gif of them pulling down the statue of Saddam Hussein, but shop Jo Pa's face onto the statue. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SneP29XbOw
and two or more of them are bad.
this a.m., the conference call that took place between trustees was all about forestalling action by the NCAA, and whether taking the statue down was a step that might ameliorate forthcoming sanctions. Much as I think that the statue needed to come down, I agree with those saying this looks more like desperate reaction by a school anxious to stop the bleeding than part of any careful, concerted effort.
EDIT: Maybe BILG (just up above me with the long, thoughtful comment) is right: the sooner the U starts to face up to reality the better, and this is a strong symbolic first step.