OT-ish : CBSSports.com [opines] Chizik appears to be out of Auburn's picture [ED: Not a report]

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OT-ish : CBSSports.com [opines] Chizik appears to be out of Auburn's picture [ED: Not a report]

 Not that it’s that big of a surprise, Jeremy Fowler with CBSSports.com reports  Two years after BCS title, Chizik appears to be out of Auburn's picture. (link)

 Wonder how it impacts Derrick Green’s perceptions after being told recently by the coaching staff We are not going anywhere. He'd look great in Maize and Blue.  Or what will be on Scot Loeffler's agenda after this season? 

[Ed-Ace: Just to clarify, this is an opinion piece, not a report. Sure doesn't look good for Chizik, but Fowler is running a long way with a lot of 'no comment's.]

                                          

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November 13th, 2012 at 6:26 PM | For a team I'm so sure was on a payroll 2 years ago (Score:4 Normal)
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I could not be happier to see this happen

Rudy watches inspirational movies about Shawn Hunwick

 

November 13th, 2012 at 6:26 PM | This isn't a report, just an (Score:5 Normal)
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This isn't a report, just an opinon piece.

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Michigan = NBA Family U

November 13th, 2012 at 6:48 PM | Why do you have to be so... (Score:5 Normal)
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Caught up in the details?

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November 13th, 2012 at 6:27 PM | Didn't he just tell Green he (Score:3 Normal)
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Didn't he just tell Green he was staying?  Hmmmmm, who didn't see this coming?  Now he's an unemployed liar.

 

It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day. 

November 13th, 2012 at 6:29 PM | As an ISU Alum, I (Score:1)
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As an ISU Alum, I LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOOLOOL. 

November 13th, 2012 at 6:31 PM | I'm with ya (not an alum but (Score:1)
B-Nut-GoBlue
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I'm with ya (not an alum but an Iowa resident who roots on the local teams, at least to have success).  Was not a fan of his a** when he was in Ames and especially how he left (more the things he said versus understandably bolting for the SEC).

November 13th, 2012 at 6:48 PM | How about his calves? (Score:3 Normal)
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How about his calves?

November 13th, 2012 at 6:59 PM | What you did there..I see (Score:2 Normal)
B-Nut-GoBlue
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What you did there..I see it!  But to the point, better than his a** for sure but not quite up to par with his quads.

November 13th, 2012 at 6:43 PM | Iowa State is 5-5. Chizik won (Score:4 Normal)
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Iowa State is 5-5.

Chizik won a national championship at Auburn and is getting millions of dollars.

I think he's still doing better than the Cyclones.

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November 13th, 2012 at 6:53 PM | Correction: Tuberville's (Score:5 Normal)
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Correction: Tuberville's hardened seniors, Cam Netwon, and Guz Malzahn won a national championship. Chizik managed not to blow it.

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Michigan = NBA Family U

November 13th, 2012 at 7:03 PM | Yeah, that's always a fun (Score:2 Normal)
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Yeah, that's always a fun exercise...

...but Chizik's got the ring.

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November 13th, 2012 at 7:40 PM | I know you're just trying to (Score:5 Normal)
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I know you're just trying to be contrarion, but do you really agree with that?  No one is refuting that Chizik was the coach when Auburn won the national championship, but don't you think it's telling that he didn't win much at ISU, was able to take a stacked team with the Heisman trophy winner and win a national title, but once Cam Newton and Gus Malzahn left he's back to not-winning like he was before? 

There's no doubting that Cam Newton + Malzahn was a winning combo, but there is no evidence that Chizik is any good without either one of them, let alone both.

November 13th, 2012 at 8:17 PM | I'm not being contrarian.  I (Score:2 Normal)
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I'm not being contrarian.  I just think it's kind of silly to laugh at a guy who left your school and won a national championship, even if he is 2-8.

Would you rather be Iowa State and 5-5?  Or would you rather be 2-8 but have a national championship ring from a couple seasons ago?  Neither one is ideal, but I think I'd rather have the ring, no matter who was the offensive coordinator/quarterback.  

Iowa State has an all-time sub-.500 winning percentage and zero national titles.

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November 13th, 2012 at 8:23 PM | OK, I guess if the question (Score:5 Normal)
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OK, I guess if the question is would I like to luck into a national championship or not luck into one, then yeah, I'd pick the national title.  If the question is whether or not that makes him a good coach or whether or not an ISU fan/alum is wrong by laughing at him now failing, I'd say no to both. 

November 13th, 2012 at 9:32 PM | Iowa St (Score:1)
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Iowa St went 5-19 in two years with Chizik.  They've gone 23-24 with Rhoads so far.  It appears both programs have benefited from Chizik leaving Iowa St.  Post WWII, Rhoads has the second highest winning percentage of any coach who's been at Iowa St more than 1 more year (interestingly Earle Bruce has the highest).

November 13th, 2012 at 11:52 PM | Chizik's recruits... (Score:2)
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One could argue using the logic above that those results are based on Chizik's recruits, not Rhoads's.

From what I can tell living in this state all that the folks from ISU care about is beating Iowa each year, if they make a bowl that's the icing on the cake certainly not an expectation... it's not like they expect to recruit much looking at what schools they are surrounded by to the East/West/South.

And on the living in this state topic... I look forward to kicking the crap out of Iowa this week more than most so I can get all the folks I work with back in their proper place with respect to their postion in the Big 10.

Go Blue... Iowa's for wrestling!

November 13th, 2012 at 7:30 PM | Good point.  Though, as you (Score:1)
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Good point.  Though, as you say, the CYCLONES, are .500 and have been competetive with some good football teams (coming up short in most, obviously).  This is all after a tire-fire of a program Chizik left them as and now Paul Rhoades at the helm.  Chizik will be shown the door soon down in Auburn (opinion article, yes, but I think it'll happen).  In a year or two the 'Clones might and probably will be better off than Chizik as far as football is concerned (yes, he'll have garnered a few million dollars and be sitting nicely, "personally").

November 14th, 2012 at 2:35 AM | Good things come from ISU... (Score:1)
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Iowa State played KSU tighter than anyone in the country(except Oklahoma.) ISU is not worthy of this kind of talk...at least not until Michigan beats Iowa... which is more than MSU can say.

November 13th, 2012 at 6:29 PM | All we need is the (Score:2)
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All we need is the slow-moving banhammer of the NCAA to finally smite Miami (YTM), and we may be the last school standing in the D.Green sweepstakes.

November 13th, 2012 at 6:30 PM | Actually if you read Green's (Score:2)
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Actually if you read Green's comments, he quotes Chizik as saying, "We plan to be here." 

Not quite the same as his interpretation of  "They're not going nowhere."

Obviously Auburn has other plans. 

November 13th, 2012 at 9:10 PM | Well... (Score:1)
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What is Chizik supposed to tell recruits?  "I have no idea whether I'm going to be here in two months?"

Chizik is doing exactly what he should.  He is acting as if he still has the job, and conducting himself in a professional way.  That way, when he is fired, it will be harder for Auburn to try and keep any of the money they owe him.

According to CBSsports.com, that would be $7.7 million, with close to another $2.3 million going to his assistants, etc.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/eye-on-college-football/20...

Coaching has certainly changed in the last twenty or thirty years.  Schools are a lot quicker to fire coaches now.  This is offset by salary increases allowing a coach to make an entire career's worth of money in four or five years at the right school.  

 

 

 

 

November 14th, 2012 at 11:14 AM | Um, I didn't suggest he (Score:2)
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Um, I didn't suggest he should say anything differently.  Only pointing out that people are twisting his generic statement to mean he isn't going to be let go, when in fact, that decision is not his.

November 13th, 2012 at 6:33 PM | What big name coaches will be (Score:2)
ChuckWood
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What big name coaches will be available this year?  I was under the impression everyone got scooped up last year.

It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day. 

November 13th, 2012 at 6:35 PM | Here comes Petrino. (Score:3 Normal)
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Here comes Petrino.

The Team, The Team, The Team.

November 13th, 2012 at 6:39 PM | Let the John Gruden rumors (Score:3 Normal)
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Let the John Gruden rumors float for another few fan bases.

It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day. 

November 13th, 2012 at 6:52 PM | No! (Score:2 Normal)
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Chuckie needs to come coach the Chargers!

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November 13th, 2012 at 6:43 PM | Been too long of a day. I (Score:4 Normal)
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Been too long of a day. I read Petrino as Paterno.

The swag is back. 

November 13th, 2012 at 7:19 PM | Paterno can still out-coach (Score:5 Normal)
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Paterno can still out-coach John L Smith

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November 13th, 2012 at 7:02 PM | Can’t think Petrino would be (Score:2)
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Can’t think Petrino would be able to jump back in SEC would he? Yet again, it is the SEC, so what am I thinkin’.  There are plenty of co-ordinators that would be looked over from B1G, Withers & Herman in Columbus, or Narduzzi in EL probably.

 More importantly, do you think Big Al could use a hand with the quarterbacks from Loeffler.   8)

November 13th, 2012 at 7:05 PM |  I'd go with Charlie Strong , (Score:1)
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 I'd go with Charlie Strong , he's been a succesful Coach in the SeC and at Louisville. I'm sure he could recruit Florida and Ohio.

 

 That's unless arkansas scoops him up at the end of the year. With that 7.5 million dollar buy out I'm pretty sure Auburn give Gene one more year

November 13th, 2012 at 7:27 PM | Plausible not probable (Score:2 Normal)
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Sat with some AU boosters (local business owners in Auburn) at the UGA game who'd heard Charlie as a candidate and said there was probably "too much social resistance" (ie, race card). Petrino won't get hired because the Pres is too involved and might fire AD Jacobs as well. Chizik's firing is openly acknowledged and the locals have kibitzed on candidates for weeks, so these boosters had insider info.

Regardless, they longed for Petrino who could win big with their talent which is "so much bigger snd faster" than Arkansas' because Chizik is a great recruiter. I just responded with a big gulp of Coke laced with Jack Daniels.

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November 13th, 2012 at 11:42 PM | Don't discount Gus Malzahn as (Score:2)
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Don't discount Gus Malzahn as a very viable option for Auburn.

November 13th, 2012 at 6:37 PM | so how long till the vest (Score:1)
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so how long till the vest finds a new job?

November 13th, 2012 at 6:52 PM | Well wouldn't that be a match (Score:3 Normal)
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Well wouldn't that be a match made in heaven.

November 13th, 2012 at 7:33 PM | IIRC, he had a five year (Score:2)
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IIRC, he had a five year "show cause" penalty slapped on him for his antics at OSU. He is esentially a college football pariah for another three years.

We ARE Michigan....COME GET SOME!!!

November 13th, 2012 at 6:38 PM | Chizik and his staff probably (Score:5 Normal)
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Chizik and his staff probably have an "exit strategy" that includes all of them taking jobs at the local Piggly Wiggly in Auburn, so technically they aren't going anywhere.

We ARE Michigan....COME GET SOME!!!

November 13th, 2012 at 6:38 PM | You think its easy (Score:-1 Overrated)
November 13th, 2012 at 6:40 PM | Tom Bradley from PSU would likely be interested (Score:1)
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although I don't know if his B1G style would translate well to the SEC.

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November 13th, 2012 at 6:52 PM | B1G style (Score:2)
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if there really is such a thing, it seems to have worked out okay for Saban.

November 13th, 2012 at 6:57 PM | Honestly... (Score:1)
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It looks like Bradley could be there long haul. He's pulled a pretty good season out of nowhere, made everyone think twice about saying how bad they'll be in three years in the process, and he has a good contract with a program with the facilities and location to be a powerhouse.

Go Blue!

November 13th, 2012 at 7:08 PM | Are you talking about last (Score:3 Normal)
OverDey
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Are you talking about last year? He isn’t coaching at this time (2012).

November 13th, 2012 at 7:27 PM | Nope, I'm just an idiot. (Score:1)
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Totally missed who we were talking about, even though I wrote it out myself. Just one of those evenings, I guess.

Go Blue!

November 13th, 2012 at 6:48 PM | Malzahn (Score:1)
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will certainly be spoiled for choice of  HCopportunities next year after Arkansas State finished 9-3 this year:

Arkansas 

Auburn

Purdue

California

I think he'll end up at Arkansas though.

 

November 13th, 2012 at 6:57 PM | As will Charlie Strong. (Score:2)
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As will Charlie Strong & Kirby Smart.

November 13th, 2012 at 6:55 PM | Well (Score:0 Overrated)
November 13th, 2012 at 7:10 PM | Seems that way (Score:1)
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I'm not critical of the kids who do things on their timeline, even if it seems (to us) they're jerking us around...they have to do what's best for them, and we shouldn't have any problem with that. Its their process, and we aren't owed anything. Its just always felt like green isn't going to come. Its like a perfect storm for Michigan, based on things we hear. But...it just seems like its not going to happen.

We want guys who are fired up to be at Michigan. Just seems like a great match on paper, but something seems like its missing.

I hope I'm wrong, and he IS fired up to be a Wolverine.

Mom, MGrad and life long fan living in So Cal

November 13th, 2012 at 6:59 PM | Report link (Score:2)
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There was a related link on the left hand side of that opinion piece.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/eye-on-college-football/20...

November 13th, 2012 at 7:33 PM | Something Of Note For Auburn... (Score:2)
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Without going into a lot of statistical detail, this is what Auburn fans see on a broad level. The chart below shows Auburn's rank in the conference for the last few seasons based on rushing, passing and scoring offense and defense. You can see the precipitous drop from 2010 to now rather clearly even at this high level:



SEASON Rushing Off. Rushing Def. Passing Off.  Passing Def. Scoring Off. Scoring Def.
2008 6 8 10 5 10 4
2009 4 10 5 10 3 12
2010 1 1 7 12 1 8
2011 4 11 9 12 7 11
2012* 12 14 13 9 13 11

Certainly, that is quite the fall for someone like Chizik who was being hailed as brilliant just a couple years ago, but as the article notes, without Cam Newton, he is 23-37 in his career. 

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November 13th, 2012 at 10:02 PM | 2011 (Score:1)
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One of the reasons for the drop off last year to this year, is the leading rusher, Jonthan Dyer, got kicked off the team. Didn't Zeke Pike get kicked out of school there too? Cam Newton, we all know the story with him. Nick Fairley, character issues that repeatedly surface in the nfl. It seems like Chiziks downfall correlates to some character flaws in players he's brought in. If you bring in kids who have questionable characters and they screw up, it hurts your program and your record.

Flying the Maize and Blue in the heart of Dixie

November 13th, 2012 at 7:39 PM | I think this bodes will for (Score:2 Normal)
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I think this bodes will for us and Green, it appears more and more every day that this is a match made in heaven.  Miami has freshman phenom Duke Johnson who has been tearing it up (yes, mostly against ACC teams I know) so there's that competition.  However, they do have different running styles.  And I know someone will say this and make reference to USC, so maybe competition isn't always a concern, but with our depth at RB right now... I think Green will be taking a long, hard look at Michigan.  Hopefully Sugar Shane can get in his hear a little.  I'd love to see a Rawls/Green duo sometime in the future!

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