Upstaged in a good way by Devin Gardner, but since we're in the "off-season" big summer movies are fair game now, so without further ado:
OT: Iron Man 3 new Trailer is out
Either the front page or board post? Or prevent you from reading or commenting in those threads? No. Your need to post everywhere lately on what's "fitting" for the site is the only thing wasting your time and pulling you away from it.
I was writing it as the news broke. No one is going to open the website and miss the front page headline and not get the news (and it's hardly news that needs multiple threads discussing it, so what's already on the site will do the job). Other than this the hottest topics of the day are all Meta. Lighten up, Francis.
Rather than the Gardner threads. I mean, if you're not getting enough "happy joy" animated gifs it's your own fault (because that's the kind of discussion you're missing). But since you ask 4 posts before this you've been giving your 2 cents on policing the boards with this:
And just earlier today (not two months ago) this:
That's the truth. And not truth, but opinion- someone who starts up an old flame war on Rich Rod probably shouldn't be the guy judging what's fitting or not for the boards.
But hey, flamebaiting Rich Rod is such great discussion on "Michigan Football's biggest day of the off-season" have at it. Just don't act like a moral authority when that's what you're bringing instead.
I just said you can't help comment on what is "worthy" on the boards. The funny part being that the Gardner threads you promote as being so important are the exact home for the kind of Upton gifs you decry.
And Rich Rod was only unavoidable because you brought it up. No one else did in two threads. Because our coach of three years ago shouldn't overshadow Gardner's good news. But much like you can't stop yourself from reading and posting here, you couldn't stop yourself from throwing out some flamebait and then act all shocked when someone bites. That kind of stuff distracts from the news far more than an OT post and is truly idiotic.
this is exactly why I just don't post or respond on the board anymore...well, except for this post talking about how I don't post here any more....
/i - does that work for implied irony the same way /s does for sarcasm?
BTW - thanks for the trailer, much enjoyed
the rest was not
I am with ya. Been reading here since 2008.
I think "Butterfield" is becoming a walking advertisement of why the old posbang/negbang system should be reinstated. I don't always understand some of the negging that goes on, but when someone with Butterfield's body of work attacks someone with M-Wolverine's body of work, it's definitely neg-worthy.
Anyway, thanks for the trailer; I was thoroughly entertained. I know this sounds a bit simplistic, but if I didn't want to click, I simply would have looked at the "OT" and moved on. Instead, there seems to be a small element here that wants to turn every OT post into a meta referendum on OT posts.
Maybe there should be a meta referendum sticky post for the people who whine about OT using bandwidth on things that are irrelevant, when their whining is doing exactly what they are whining about: using bandwidth on things that are irrelevant.
yes it's OT but thats what the OT flag is for. Great share! And for the record out of all the threads on the board, this is the one I came to first this evening, so some of us here do like this sort of thing. if you don't like it, don't click it.
I don't expect every thread to be a 900 post open game epic. Some are just for fun. And if the post got more positive votes than negative enough people were interested than not. It's the off season, and the site skews a little "geek", and this is one of the biggest movies of the summer. As I'm getting the links and typing it up, I hear on the radio about Devin. After "Yay!" I think "boy, this thread is dead in the water now" but not "man, now no one is going to read about Devin if I post this." For those who weren't aware, just some fun info to kill time between Devin and the inevitable open thread that was coming for OSU/Indiana.
So you don't have to post. I post it for you because I figure there are enough people around here who enjoy it. Obviously I have no problem taking the hits so you don't have to.
Yay, reasonable discussion!
but there was no "haters gonna hate" option
I am so confused. I came here for the Gardner news.
damnit, I came here for the posbang, I knew I mixed it up again...
Yeah, my general response to Iron Man 2 was the same.
My response to a Hercules post: +1 normal to you sir. (Except I'm on my phone so not really)
Isn't there a "Profit" in there somewhere?
Quite the day. Iron Man 3 trailer drops, Gardner gets his redshirt, Chavez dies, the Dow Jones breaks records. It's been a busy day on Twitter, that's for sure.
I'm curious to see how they'll use the Mandarin's rings of power. The Iron Man series has been more like the Dark Knight series of more realistic bad guys, so it'll be interesting to see how they do that with the Mandarin. Looks great though, and rumors of an Ant-Man introduction in the post credits, so I'm excited.
But I hope they do SOMETHING.
That's what I'm reading. They say that they won't cross over with The Avengers at all, but I wouldn't be surprised if they end up being a piece of left over tech from the Chiutauri. Did anyone see the Item 47 short on the Avengers blu-ray? I'd love to see them do something more than a one shot with that.
the rings are alien tech, if you read the dragon seed saga http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/5150075-iron-man they explain the rings how they are some control system for an alien ship that give you powers somehow. This is like one of 2 iron man stories ive read, came in a random trade bundle that was on super sale i saw on reddit a few months back and the fact that its relevant now amazes me.
What we're trying to figure out is how they translate that into the movies, particular an Iron Man movie that other than being in the Avengers has tried to be a bit more reality based than the others.
I've recently heard different on the post credit scene. Read on for a maybe, possible spoiler.....................Tony receives an SOS signal from space by someone named Star Lord. He dons a new space armor and takes off. That's it. The SOS will be explained in the Guardians of the Galaxy movie. Tony will meet the Guardians in their movie's post credit scene. There they will explain that the SOS was a warning that Thanos is headed towards Earth. That sets up Avengers 2.
It appears you're pretty much dead on, I was going on 8 month old rumors of Ant-Man but more digging had this pop up just 5 days ago, so kudos to you sir.
(POSSIBLE SPOILER, CLICK AT YOUR OWN RISK)
Because it really falls into an area of plausibility. And it makes sense because the comics are trying to ape that, in advance, presently.
Did Adidas design the new Iron Man uniform? Personally, I have to say the traditional deep red with gold trim is far superior to what seems to be the new, snazzier version in the clips.
I had the same thought...I am hoping at least War Machine's red/white/blue will be authentic and look off like Addidas's neon "Maize".
Just can't get into Iron Man. And I love comics and superheroes. But Iron Man is just not entertaining to me. I think the movies are incredibly overhyped, but maybe that's just me.
I should have just responded to this post here, but alas I didn't read it. I completely agree on the Tony Stark/Iron Man character, he's just not that intriguing to me. His villans were always kind of meh as well aside from M.O.D.O.K, I mean who doesn't like him? In general I agree with you that he's just kind of a blah character but the movies are very well done, and really turned around the way Marvel movies are made.
Maybe I'm weird but I am not a big fan of these comic book movies. I mean, I was when I was 17. But all the gratuitous special effects/action sequences have just become redundant and worn out.
Yep, but I still go see them.
I'm starting to feel that now. I still like superhero movies, but I'm getting kind of fatigued with origin stories and the occasional over reliance on CGI. I understand that some shit literally cannot be pulled off, but... I mean, watching the semi get flipped in The Dark Knight just blew my mind but then you see the Iron Man vs Thor fight in Avengers and it's like, the only thing that was real was my disappointment...
Plot twist Devin Gardner is Iron Man.
The post-trailer teaser after Avengers showed the aliens talking about Earth being the place of death and all (oops sorry if you haven't seen it yet) (and, um, why haven't you seen the Avengers yet?), in the context of IM3. But... I don't see any aliens in the trailer. Did they change their minds? Was the teaser just like Tina from my sophomore year in HS -- a total tease and nothing more? Or was that not for IM3 but another one of the movies?
Or maybe the Guardians of the Galaxy one. Or both.
The Thanos teaser was for both movies, he's already been confirmed as an antagonist for Guardians of the the Galaxy, and the Avengers 2.
Two Words: Iron Legion. I am PUMPED.
just wait till after avengers 2...if anyone has read planet hulk and world war hulk then u will know what avengers 3 will be about...and that will be awesome
But Joss Whedon has kinda just debunked them-
But he does say he's looking for Avengers 2 to be more Godfather 2 or Empire Strikes Back than 'name your random superhero 2 sequel.'
A question for fellow comic nerds. Did any of you actually read any of the Iron Man series prior to the movies? He always seemed like such an uninteresting character apart from any of the Avengers plotlines, I could never get into them the way I could for the X-Men or Spiderman. The movies really seem to show that he's a much more important character to the Marvel Universe than I'd ever realized before the films.
Never read Iron Man.I never read the Avengers comics either. To me they were too goody two shoes. Kinda corporate super heroes with their switchboard operators and adulation. The only thing I read that they were in was the Secret Wars series. The only comic that i read then was X-Men. I liked the whole dark ousider thing they had. Oddly though I'm not a fan of the X-Men movies except for First Class. Characters were either underutilized or didn't act like the comics. Fox really messed the franchise up. They should have used stories from the comic's classic era. Then while I didn't read Avengers comics I love the Marvel Studio movies for Avengers, Iron Man ,etc. They took great care tying the solo movies together and building up to Avengers. It was refreshing in an era of churning crap out to get a quick buck.
I mean, as a kid Spidey was king (insert Spiderman tv show theme here). And loved the Hulk, in comics and tv. But I didn't really get into the X-Men until later. Though my early exposure to the Avengers was the Marvel Super Heroes tv show taken right from the comics...literally...and X-Men probably not till the role playing game came out, and they looked weird. But they had this guy with a really cool name....Wolverine....and for awhile he was the only one I really liked (Nightcrawler too. Cyclops is a dick). I mean, when I started, Beast was an Avenger. And when that cartoon had Cap, Iron Man, Hulk, Thor, and Sub-Mariner they were cool.
And while in Marvel Iron Man was never first string with me with Spidey, Hulk, Cap, and even later guys like the Punisher, I always liked him. He is/was actually my brother's favorite, so some bias leaked over I'm sure. He was James Bond as a superhero. Cool, got the ladies, had the money. And he had some of the best regular continuity story arcs that came AFTER the early Lee-Kirby days. A lot of titles suffered through the 70's and 80's...Iron Man got better.
Since the movie became popular he's become less of a B lister and more of a Marvel A- lister, but the first movie may be the most perfect comic book movie too. It may not be as good a film as a Dark Knight, but to represent comics on the big screen, fun and all, you can't do too much better. (Though Avengers was the little kid in me coming back out again....wow, all these characters, on the big screen, TOGETHER). And mostly because they have Robert Downey Jr. What Marvel has done is adapt things for the big screen, but really do a GREAT job casting. That's not true for all the other movies. I even doubted them when they cast Chris Evans as Cap, and then the movie amazed me with all the heart it had in it. Everyone has a blunder eventually. No one bats a thousand. Even Pixar did Cars 2. But till they completely screw one up, I'm with them.
But then what do I know, my favorite character is Dr. Doom.
I completely agree that Iron Man really started Marvel on a path to good films, you could argue before it came out that Marvel really only had a good showing with X2 and possibly the first X-Men.
Obviously this is really only going to be just opinions clashing but I think the X-Men comics were the perfection of the comic book world. They had vast collection of interesting main (Wolverine/Iceman/Nightcrawler) characters and plenty of even more intriguing secondary characters(Bishop/Cable/Sunspot) and probably the best collection of villains (Magneto/Apocalypse/Bastion/Mr Sinister/The Government). I really don't think anything comes close to what Kirby and Lee accomplished as to when they created the X-Men.
You weren't the only one leery of Chris Evans being cast as Cap, after seeing him as the Human Torch and basically every other role he's been in it was hard to imagine him as the ever vigil Captain, but he pulled it off very well. Assuming you like the F4 because Doom is your favorite character but, do you think they'll reboot that series at some point ala the Amazing Spiderman? Because those F4 were the epitome of terrible Marvel movies, and Galactus as a giant cloud.....SMH. Anyways it's nice to some other comic nerds as well.
P.S. I still have this as a ringtone.
I think the Chris Clairmont written era of X-Men wa the most popular any era of any comic has ever been. From the mid 70's to the mid 80's. They dwarfed the Avengers. That's why it disappointed me so much that they messed up the movies. They should have been bigger than the Avengers movie. They were popular to a degree but the Avengers was a phenomenom(and rightfully so). Here's what i would have done. Make the First class 60's era movie first. Then do the modern day era trilogy. With the first of those they could use artistic license to bring the new team together because the whole mutantt island thing in the comics has too many people. I would have Magneto and the Brotherhood about to do something big and Xavier only has Cyclops and Phoenix. So they recruit the classic era linup(Wolverine, Storm, Nightcrawler, Colossus, Ariel, and Rogue). They come together as a team and beat The Brotherhood. At the end you see Phoenix start to get a little unstable. In the second movie you use the storyline where they fight the Hellfire Club lead by Sebastan Shaw. They win but as in the comic the Club unwittingly unleashes Dark Phoenix. Then in the 3rd one it is the storyline of the fight for Phoenix. Phoenix is destroying civilizationns across the universe. All the races unite and send their best warriors to unite and kill her. The X-Men are protective and stand up to them. It's decided that the 2 teams will be dropped on a moon to fight. The winner decides her fate. The X-Men actually lose and Phoenix kills herself because she knows she can't control the power anymore. A dark ending which I loved. Then if there's a demand for a fourth I guess you can go on. Maybe the Days of Future Past story which they're making now. But I do the Dark Phoenix saga to start off. But Fox messed it up IMO.
On a new property (remember, this was even before Spiderman came out) saying "we're going to take this most popular comic that no one but the fans have heard about....but we're going to leave out all the fan favorites in Wolverine, and Storm, Rogue....but dont' worry, they come in the next one!" Remember, this was at a time where Blade was a big deal as comic book movies went.
But I agree with you that the whole Phoenix thing needed to be handled WAY better. Yours would have been a pretty good take. It might have a $500,000 budget, but it'd be a cool movie.
I wasn't trying to diss the X-Men. They just didn't really become big till I was older, and more of a comic book fan, than just a kid who liked super heroes. So when I was a kid, the Avengers were the big timers, and the X-Men were just a step above the Doom Patrol. I remember seeing Cyclops in a Marvel Activity/coloring book and thinking he was a bad guy. And then later with Storm with a mohawk as the punk rock superheroes. But after their return as the "All New" that might be the strongest run of any comic for that long a period out there. And as I got to know them more I liked a lot more than Wolverine...Storm, Nightcrawler, Colossus to some extent, Kitty, the Beast when he came back from the Avengers, mmm Psylocke...
It's just a different period. FF and Avengers were Marvel's big teams first, then X-Men became gigantic (along the same time Teen Titans surprisingly took over DC), and now it's come back again that they put their big guns on the Avenger titles and that has been the big seller. And right now there's not even necessarily a difference in the teams.
I'm not sure I agree on the villains. Magneto is great, but for as big a team as it is they seem to be hurting for adversaries. Love Apocalypse...back when he was a survival of the fittest mutant and wasn't convoluted in time travel. And Sinister massacring mutants was classic, before he was involved in the full genetic history of the Summers and Greys. Which is really the X-Men's problem...they got too convoluted for their own good. Other than Wolverine being kind of solo, they don't have the individual villains to bring against the team that the Avengers have to go with the more team villains.
And they keep talking about doing a new FF with Millar advising Fox, but I keep hoping that like Daredevil they keep failing and the rights revert back to Marvel. Spiderman will never flop enough to go back (And the first, and particularly the 2nd Spiderman were good movies), but these lesser properties could go back to Marvel and that'd be fine with me. They've shown they do them better. FF was worse because there were small parts that could have made a good FF movie. The casting wasn't horrible, particularly Reed, Ben, and Johnny. They made Reed not smart enough and Ben's make-up wasn't great, but that wasn't casting. And Evans was maybe too good as Johnny. Alba was miscast, but worse things than seeing her in skintight blue. I'm not sure that the guy wouldn't have made an alright Victor Von Doom...if the character resembled Dr. Doom in any way other than a green hoodie. That abortion would have kept any movie from being good.
And THAT is another classic theme song.
I didn't think it was a diss at them at all. I totally get the Lucas route of "give them the best part first" and then to the backstory later. I just admire how Marvel did it with the chronological build up lately and wanted to see Fox(ugh) do it like that. As far as when what was bigger I'll just tell you what I was around for. I read from about '81- '86. Also during that time I went and read all the stuff I missed from the '75 Giant X-Men(classic team introduced) forward to the point in '81 that I got on board. So I don't know the whole Apocalypse and Jubilee stuff that went on when I checked out in '86. Discovering UM football being on of the reasons I drifted. But I'll tell ya that period that I read, X-Men was the most popular. Wolverine was far and away the most popular single character in comics. I couldn't tell you who was next. Maybe Avengers. They had some decent villians: Brotherhood, Hellfire Club, Government/Sentinals, the Brood,the Warlocks. From what I hear the reboot FF movie is a go. Marvels phase 2 is set with Iron Man 3, Thor 2, Cap 2, Guardians, and Avengers 2. Phase 3 will kick off with Ant Man(I dunno how that will do) and Dr. Strange will be in phase 3. I'm hoping Black Panther will be in that too. There's supposedly a reference to his country in Iron Man 3.
Their original membership/version was pretty kick-ass.
I had read somewhere about a possible Dr. Strange appearance in Thor 2 ala Hawkeye in Thor. Honestly I know very little about his character/ origins but it's nice to see some of the lesser known Marvel characters getting their just due. I'd like to get a Nova movie made at some point, but who knows maybe he'll show up in The Guardians of the Galaxy because he's also involved in galactic defense.
EDIT: why is the reply button on the fritz? this is the 2nd time i've replied to the wrong post when I clicked to reply to a different user.
Also, rather than a completely new post, there was a good article in IGN with some insight behind the principles making the movie and their thought process-
And part one which is a big spoiler where they recount the scene they actually got to see-
No, no I certainly didn't take it as a diss on the X-Men, just simply as someone who grew up in the early 90's they were the group I clinged onto.
I agree completely. Iron Man was more of a B-star in the comic book world before the first film. Robert Downey Jr. has done a tremendous job with Tony Stark's character, and has made Iron Man one of the most popular comic book character around. If you think about it, he was the central character that the Avengers Initiative kind of revolved around.
I actually think that at the end of Iron Man 3 Stark will end up traveling into outer space to kick it with the Guardians of The Galaxy. I guess we'll see what happens in May!
He has just killed it as far as Tony Stark. I love the quick wit style of the writing, and I love that even in the most challenging, dramatic moments Downey Jr. still says everything in that style. I was worried that as things got more dramatic they would have Stark lose his cool and stutter or slow down as an easy way out for showing emotion or bringing drama to a situation, and fortunately they haven't resorted to those cheap tricks.
Already saw a continuity issue in the trailer. During the interview of Stark at near the end of the trailer, a man in a grey coat is holding a filp cell phone at 1:02 and 1:57, at 2:04 the guy is holding a smart phone.
I don't really care about things like this, but it is interesting that it was released in a trailer.
It's so prominent that I'd guess thew producers/editors are trolling the Internet trolls who point out the most obscure, inconsequential continuity errors as evidence of poor filmmaking.
Those people suck.
I'm not going to bog the thread again by embedding, but I had a question for those really into it about the differences in this trailer. And no, not that it just has Chinese people in it for the China market.
It's a little blurry, but does it look like they erased the Captain America shield tattoo from the back of the Mandarin's neck in this version? I double checked, and it's still there in the latest new trailer regular version, but it seems like it's gone in this one. "Why" might be too political, but I'm curious if others see the same thing.