I do not feel your pain. If you don't like listening to someone on the radio, turn it off or turn to another station.
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I do not feel your pain. If you don't like listening to someone on the radio, turn it off or turn to another station.
Yeah I'll just switch over to all those other michigan morning shows.
It doesn't sound like they're talking about Michigan, so it shouldn't be a problem.
Right on. WTKA's advantage in the morning is that they cover Michigan. If they're not talking about Michigan athletics, they're no different than 3-4 other local sports stations. And without Sam, there are better radio personalities than Ira that I can listen to. Glad I wasn't subjected to it.
I call that the Mike Valenti approach.
then you have to be able to deal with critics. Ira struggles with this. I think he's a good guy. I'd imagine I would enjoy having a beer with him. But he's not a great radio personality. Biggest issue is that he's not funny. And that's not a knock. It's just that not everyone is funny. It helps when you're a radio personality that you have a make you laugh factor. Also, his Michigan arrogance makes even a Michigan grad cringe. Again, he wants to bash Sparty or Ohio but he doesn't have the humor to do so it comes off as just arrogance. And he needs to let go of the Phil thing. It's not funny. It's not informative. He's a caller with another opinion. Give him his 30 seconds and leave it at that.
Sam is pretty good and he's the man on recruiting so he makes it worth listening to.
The thing that always makes me quickly scramble for the tuner is caller Brian! OMG can he please take about a year off and not call the show every day with the same lame comments.
The show is definatly less fun when Webb/Brian/Clark not in studio. I do turn the dial when it is Ira and MArcus Ray, who I like sometimes, but find hard to take in long periods.
Wasn't Ira the one who claimed he could bat .200 if he played in MLB or something like that?
and I've never heard Ira say that. I'd guess he was joking or using hyperbole if he did. He has strong opinions and isn't hesitant to express or defend them, but he's not stupid.
I think I'm thinking of Ryan Ermanni.
When reporting the story about Burleson, he said "Same old Lions" which a listener thought meant that Ira was glad or happy that Burleson was injured in the accident. That was not the case... he was just referring to the long, sad Lions history of bad luck, which accompanies their long, sad history of incompetence.
well same old lions is pretty much a fact. If the same trend continues for over 50 years you can assume the trend will continue for the time being....
While I know that Ira was not wishing Burleson ill or anything like that I do wish he would just stop talking about the lions. He may have just been reporting the Burleson stroy this morning but it didn't come off that way to me immediately either. Maybe that is because 95% of the time he talks about the lions it is to rag on them in some way or make fun of them. Fine your a ravens fan great but don't act like your the smartest man in the room because the rest of us are just dumb lions fans.
invariably leads to crappy airtime.
Yep. There are varying degrees of crappy too.
Replace Burleson with [insert detroit athlete here] and your first three sentences seem to be Ira's typical script. He does a nice job running the programming at WTKA but I don't think he is a quality radio personality.
And manages to create some good events. Though why the hell they can't get the MGoBlog roundtable mic thing figured out so Sam doesn't blast out of the speakers and Brian and Craig are a whisper I don't know.
But on air he's best in small doses. Sam is great, but the guy before Ira was actually better with him. (My wife can't stand his voice on the radio either). And Marcus is no replacement for Sam, because he's not really suited for long airtime filling. He should be great on the BTN in soundbytes and telling stories, without hours of interaction.
Sam has a REALLY good excuse to be gone, but come back soon.
I didn't think Ira's comment was bad, and agree that the listener might have misinterpreted it. That being said, I was sitting at my desk thinking, "Ira, you gotta let it go!" He made it out to be significantly worse than it was. Made for a rough listen, but not a big deal.
Just have a few toddlers run around you yelling each morning and all you'll want is piece and quiet on your ride into work. Radio off - problem solved.
well, if you listened to Ira's interview with Eric Adelson this morning, you WERE listening to toddlers run around and yell.
He's a good dude. That being said, that show is struggling without Sam, and finding it difficult to fill air time. Let's be honest, 95% of the reason people listen is the Recruiting Roundup, so when that's not there, people will look for even more of a reason to be overly critical.
Ira alone is pretty awful. I'm a huge fan of Sam but when he's not around. It's pretty unlistenable.
Even when Sam and Brian are there, the way he butts in all the time with something pretty dumb to say drives me nutts.
If Sam isn't there, and Ira is alone, he'll rattle on and on until you can't take it any more. I think the good talk show hosts know when to talk and when to shut up. Ira hasn't learned the latter skill very well yet.
Ira has a bad habit of interrupting Sam, who is the reason I'm sure everyone listens. That habit is compounded by his opinion statements, which he nearly always follows with a "that being said" or two so that he really cannot be wrong about anything.
Actually quite maddening just trying to get to the Sam parts sometimes. And no, I do not listen if Sam is not there.
Yep. Sam makes getting through the endless amount of commercials worth it. I've tried changing the station during commercials, but I sometimes miss the beginning of the recruiting round-up, which was the main reason for listening.
Can't wait for Sam to get back.
If a fox sports or some other local station picked up a recruiting employee and some decent radio talent, this morning show would be screwed. Sam is the only reason I listen.
Man, that annoys me as well. Often times he’s interrupting to list some supplemental piece of information like the score of a game that happened six years ago. On occasion the interruption is justified or pertinent to the discussion but more often times it’s just disrupting the flow of someone else making a good point or pleasant banter (when MGo roundtable crew is on).
Honestly, when I saw that Burleson broke his arm, I too thought "Same old Lions", meaning, holy sh*t, is there a NFL team with worse fu*king luck???
Did the Ford family piss off the owner of a goat, refuse a deal with Satan, wtf?
He crashed his car when he tried to prevent a pizza from falling off the passenger seat. It's unfortunate, but in terms of combining boneheadedness and a universe with no sympathy whatsoever, that is about as Lions as it gets.
Ira didn't say anything malicious about Burleson, he simply used the common phrase "Same Old Lions" to describe yet another unfortuante twist to the Lions long history of unfortunate twists. Did he get a bit upset when someone insinuated he was exactly like Jim Comparoni (the guy who called for Devin to get his knees blown out during the ND game), hell yeah. I would too. That said, the show obviously misses Sam, but he'll be back soon.
Personally, I'm not a huge fan of Ira,just find him hard to listen to, and typically don't share common views. Therefore I find myself switching channels.
I think he does a great job bringing topics discussed on this blog to the radio. He plays up the slappy side of Michigan fans. He talks about the non revenue Michigan sports. You can't get that anywhere else on the radio.
He's as devoted to UM sports as it's possible to be, but he's knowledgeable about a wide range of sports and sports issues beyond UM. I also enjoy the fact that he doesn't suffer the fools who call in regularly gladly. And why wouldn't he talk about Maryland? He grew up there, and his family is still there. I enjoy the perspective he brings about the Terps now that they're joining the conference. Yes, he can be combative at times, but that's hardly a unique or disqualifying feature for radio personalities. I think Ira and Sam are a great morning combo, and they beat the hell out of anything WTKA has had on the afternoon by miles.
Because he gets half his ideas for topics and 90% of his arguments from the blog. He should pay Brian royalties.
I can't believe all of the negative comments in this thread. I understand that a thread like this will bring out the vocal minority that for whatever reason dislike a radio show (see the many threads where other shows get blasted), but this seems over the top. I enjoy listening to Ira and wtka. I think the point that is lost in all the negativity are that it is a blessing and a curse to cover Michigan sports so in depth. We all tune in because we like hearing about michigan football, but the problem is there really isn't a whole lot of news to fill in multiple hours every single day. Sure, they do a good job during the football season, but how could you not ramble about a random michigan factoid or a game from 20 years ago when it's April and there hasn't been any real michigan football news in months?
I'm also surprised that Ira is being criticized a little about rambling. It is an extremely difficult skill to fly solo in a talk radio show. It is literally just you meant to fill the air for x amount of hours, and be sure to fill that air, too because nothing is worse that pauses or dead air time. Rants and long winded conversations with yourself are absolutely inevitable, and actually necessary. Combine that with the fact that you have no social cues to know exactly when your audience is losing interest, it makes it extremely difficult. Sprinkle in the fact that the audience is so niche that callers don't exactly light up his boards all the time, and it's a lot of Ira talking without it being his fault at all. I think Ira does a great job. I don't listen to many national radio talk shows anymore, and the only local guy that can really fly solo on the radio pretty we'll is pat caputo besides Ira. Again, I'm sure there are people here that don't enjoy his show, but I think he does a great job of keeping a show entertaining even if he doesn't have a cohost to bounce conversations off of. Pat has been doing this for decades, has many more topics available for him to cover, and has a much larger Detroit sports fan base to "turn it to the people" when he hits a lull. Let's give Ira some credit.
Keep up the good work Ira. I moved out of the area 2 years ago. I used to solely listen to sports talk radio, but when I made the move yours is the only talk radio I listen to anymore via the radio app. You do a great job and we appreciate it.
I mean not really...but really, when you list Pat Caputo as good at anything the rest all becomes null and void.
I know that this all in good fun, but who really does a consistently good job as a solo talk radio host? National guys like Jim Rome/SVP have a room full of people to keep churning out the topics, and are hardly in the same category. I really don't know of any, and stand by my Caputo reference. Even if you think he's an idiot, the man has been doing the job for a long time, knows his craft, and can fill a strange air time by himself with reasonable consistency.
Haha almost put the exact same comment about bill. Mr know it all is the worst host on the air. And that's saying a lot.
In August, when the issue of closing main st on football game days was discussed, Mr. Weintraub criticized people who called themselves "citizens" who were opposed to the policy. Mr. Weintraub's point was that a person may be a "resident" of a city but not a "citizen"----which to me implied that the people against the policy must be wrong because they weren't even smart enough to know they were "residents', not "citizens".
I e-mailed the station pointing this out, however, since I share the frustration discussed by other posters in this thread, I [in a not very charitable way] added:
Do I need to add that by far the best portions of the program are when you are not speaking? [Even the commercials are better.] While it must be extremely difficult to be on the radio, or in the public eye, day after day, I still must point out that I find you neither entertaining, nor informative.
Holy cow! Weintraub went off like a rocket. This little gem earned a ten [fifteen?] minute spot on that morning's show where the above was called the e-mail of the month [year?].
Anyway, I suggest that he has watched a lot of sports, but really has not learned as much as one would hope from what he has seen.
What did you expect? I don't care for some of his stuff but good god man
Wtka used to have a bunch of local amateurs on in the afternoon, the Beatniks. They were horrible. They would blather on about nothing, spewing RichRod hate. Facts were usually wrong or in the wrong context. I found myself screaming at the radio on a regular basis. They were bad. But they talked about Michigan. And they loved Michigan. Since they were replaced by the Huge show, I stopped listening.
Ira is better than the old afternoon show. And he is far better than the rest of the crap on national sports talk radio.
That ain't sayin' much.
I like Ira a lot. My gripe with the show is how they have WAY too many guests, interviews, and phone callers. They do that because they cannot fill the majority of the show with their own stuff. While I absolutely despise the Mike and Mike show (haven't listened to it in about six years), they don't take any calls and don't have nearly as many interviews or guests. The same goes with Jim Rome. I never listen to the segments discussing Olympic sports because I simply don't care about them (and I'm sure 90%+ of the audience doesn't either). That's the only show I know of that discusses M football and basketball at length, so I have to take what I can get. Living in NE Ohio, it's a beautiful thing to have access to radio talk about Michigan that isn't negative like I get here in Ohio.
EDIT: Regarding the phone callers, they're the SAME callers daily and I can't stand any of them. JJ in Linkin Park, Phil the Ignorant Asshole, Don, True Blue Tom, Linda (whom I have not heard call in a long time, thankfully), the guy who fails miserably with his Bob Ufer impersonations, and several others I cannot think of right now.
Nice to e-meet you, Don. I think you call too much. Once a week will suffice, not daily...and that goes for all daily callers.
but you're badly mistaken in saying that I call daily.
I'm not counting the weekends.
I appreciate the calls and the availability of the podcasts. Living in Columbus, it is refreshing to get away from 97.1 the Fan.
The worst caller is Ariel. When he calls I have to change the station as I can't stand listening to him stumble through whatever his question is. Linda is quite painful too. Dennis drives me insane with the constant Ufer impersonation and he talks way too fast where I can't even follow what he's saying.
I have to stand up for Ira (not that he needs my help). While I do agree with the consensus that Sam is a better radio personality, Ira complements him very well. Together they are better than either one separately. In addition, Ira is the program director which is a huge responsibility; I'm quite impressed he can keep the plates spinning and run the show when needed.
As far as the incident discussed here, I don't really take much offense given what I've heard. Any long time fan of the Lions understands how snake bit that organization is and has always been. Sure Ira can at times get up too long on a soapbox which is easy when you control the airwaves. Perhaps a character flaw, but that's who he is. I have never doubted his enthusiasm for or allegiance to Michigan.
Ira seems like a good guy, but he irritates me. I live in Grand Rapids, and every Thursday I look forward to listening to the podcast of the MGO roundtable. Ira will ask a question to Brian and Craig and then answer the question himself and ramble on and on, and not let Brian or Craig actually answer the question. He forgets no one actually cares about his opionion, but are more interested in the guests opinion, because you know thats what they're for. I hope Sam is back from leave this week because I can hardly stand him over the last two weeks.
Maybe he has a self inflated notion of himself. Who knows? To be sure he knows stats and the usual sports mantra's (which are boring in and of themselves), but his analysis and opinion compared to Brian's or Craig Ross's or Sam's just does not compare. And aggravatingly and confoundingly, when those guys are on, he interupts and talks over them and their point is lost. Result is very poor radio. As someone stated above, it is not listenable.
I had to stop podcasting a couple years back because he is just really, really bad at speaking. I don't understand how certain people get on-air jobs that cannot use the primary skill needed in that medium to convey a message.
Get on the air and do it then. If it's that simple, do it. If you think being a radio talk show host is easy, you're mistaken. We think it looks easy as liseners because all we hear is their talking, but there is a lot more involved than that. There is show prep, which takes hours sometimes, doing live reads for advertisers, producing the show, and I'm sure several other responsibilities.
Yes, I know things are hard. It doesn't change the fact that he does not have a good on-air voice, which is unfortunately a large part of what makes someone a good (and listenable) broadcaster.
Ira just doesn't have a great speaking voice or on air personality. I know he is a true Michigan fan, and he sounds like a decent person, but I've just never been a big fan of his.
Listening to WTKA without Sam is like having White Castles with just mustard and not ketchup or vice versa. You have to have them mixed in into orange which makes it good.
The Michigan Insider without Sam is like The Big Lebowski sans Dude. The Michigan Insider without Ira is like The Big Lebowski without Walter. It's the chemistry, man.
I appreciate the class in which both Sam and Ira handle callers. With the exception of Phil, people call in with various opinions and not all have the gift of public speaking. Both guys get through that and make it a 'safe' place to give varying opinions. Not a whole lot of places that will do that. .