I think that he will step in. He knows the systems and he knows the kids. No big name coach is going to want to follow the mess that Tressel is going to leave in his wake.
OT: If he leaves, who follows Tressel?
Fickell or Einhorn?
Einhorn or Fickell?
I wonder (getting ahead of myself hoping for Tressel being fired of course) how much 'image' will be a part of a new hire at tsio ... like if they can just go for the coach that they think will bring them the most success, or if they will really sit down & consider which coach will bring a combination of success + good image in the wake of tatgate.
I'm just curious because we had such a good dichotomy set up with the sweater vest + glasses Jim Tressel vs. 'point & toughness' Brady Hoke, & it's always interesting to make characters out of the faces of the programs
I feel he wants to move up to a more powerful position at OSU.
That's only if Tressel doesn't fire him.
Please not Urban Meyer.
Please not Urban Meyer.
Please not Urban Meyer.
Please not Urban Meyer.
that is all.
I think Michigan can handle Meyer, if need be.
It was a great game, and a lot of fun, but it was Meyer's weakest team. And it's not like Michigan really stopped their offense that well. Neither Michigan nor Mattison has really ever stopped the spread when executed with high-quality, experienced personnel. If Meyer takes the TSIO job, it's going to be another shitty decade.
I have two ardent hopes:
1. Dantonio applies for the job, doesn't get it, and MSU finds out.
2. Fickell takes the job and continues Tressel's conservative playcalling.
If the above things happen, Hoke continues to delegate offense to Borges, and Borges turns out to be a very good offensive coach, it's going to be a great decade. Especially if it takes Fickell five years to dig out of the ever-growing hole Tressel is leaving at TSIO. Having TSIO and lil' bro in simultaneous turmoil while Michigan is on the upswing would be the best of all possible outcomes.
If the Perles and Saban eras taught us anything, it's that not getting a better job is the best way to get a raise and more power in East Lansing. They were always interviewing somewhere... And denying it.
I was being glib with my previous post, but in all seriousness, why do so many people assume Meyer going to OSU means doom for UM?
He's a good coach and built two high profile, very successful programs, but idea that Michigan categorically can't compete against Meyer is a weirdly fatalistic. Meyer isn't god, if he ends up coaching OSU, it's not a forgone conclusion that UM will lose for a decade.
Wasn't the 2010 squad Meyer's weakest team?
I think Meyer is a great coach, but his great success at UF was, in my opinion, in large part due to having St. Timmy. The two years that Meyer coached at UF without Tebow his teams were solid but not great (9-3 and 8-5). Much like RR at WVU with White, Tebow helped make Meyer look great.
But that doesn't explain his going 22-2 at Utah. Also, Tebow was strictly a situational sub during Meyer's first national title at UF.
What you could maybe argue is that Meyer's success was due in part to certain assistants he had. But even then, I don't know how convincing that argument is.
"chicken little pansy-ass" moderate option.
UM also lost to a I-AA team and got murder fisted by Oregon that year. Quit being a massive vagina. Meyer didn't even run the spread that UM has historically had troubles with. Man up, you panty waisted waver of private parts.
Meyer barely lasted half that at Florida, what makes you think after retiring, twice, he'd be up for 10 more years anywhere?
I'm wondering if anyone else thinks we will see that type of offense this year, only with more QB runs? It was kind of a hybrid spread with a lot of passing and some running out of the spread formations to keep the defense honest.
I'm sure certain situations will be more power running based, but I think we could be successful with that type of an offense for this year. Our personnel would fit very well.
I can't say it'll be the same as Florida's (Denard is a very different type of runner than Tebow), but Borges has said that they'll keep some of the spread stuff (I think for a combination of help-with-the-transition and fit-the-current-personnel). Obviously we don't know what exactly Borges will do, but hopefully it's a potent hybrid of what the team did well last year mixed with what they want the team to do in the future.
It made it even sweeter than it already was. The next work day was glorious as we had a ton of Florida alum civilians that worked with us.
I dont care, I hope he stays this year so we can kick his ass.
How about RichRod? Cue the orchestra of Doom.
Cue Josh Groban
joke = hoke, autocorrect
Fickell will get the interim job for the 2011 season and OSU will go after Meyer and Stoops after the season is over. Meyer won't take it, but Stoops eventually will. It's the job he has always wanted and OSU will pay him a fortune.
What is it about Bob Stoops that makes everyone think he's so eager to leave the perennial Top-10 program he's built in Oklahoma? Even if he wanted a change, why move into a program that could potentially be riddled with crippling sanctions?
Seriously, why is he mentioned for every big opening?
He grew up an OSU fan and FWIW did not build Oklahoma into a football powerhouse. OSU is as big or bigger of a program, its AD makes much more money, it's in a better and more stable conference (not dominated by UT) and he will be moving back "home". And OSU will give him a raise (it's not like they will be in a great position to haggle over contract details).
Edit: It would not surprise me if he brought back one of his brothers as DC either.
Oklahoma was .500 for the two years before Stoops arrived.
I know Stoops is from Ohio, but he's mentioned for every big job, which seems to indicate a supposed dissatisfaction with Oklahoma. He's got a preseason #1 this year. Why is he leaving?
... and I am entitled to mine.
The Sooners were down for a few years before Stoops got there? Yeah, so what?
As far as why I think Stoops would take the job, please see my above post. I set them out as clearly as I know how.
And as far as sanctions on OSU, except for probation and maybe a few scholarships, they will be over by the time the new coach's second team takes the field. Time heals all wounds, etc. It's a factor, but it also will give him leverage to negotiate a better contract. Hell, if it weren't for the scandal, the job would not be available in the first place. See Lane Kiffen at USC.
You don't have to agree with me and if you have a better replacement in mind, please, by all means, post it. The OP asked for peoples' opinions and this is mine.
That was more of a general question than attacking you. It seems like Stoops is the candidate everyone thinks is ready to leave his top 10 program at a moment's notice. I really doubt he wants to start over now.
If this stuff is really serious, then I don't think Tressel coaches this year. Either way, I don't think he coaches in 2012, so sanctions will still be in play, IMO. I think an outsider without a connection to Tressel takes over, preferably a super recruiter to keep the talent level up during sanctions. I'll spare the usual suspects and say Doc Holliday from Marshall. He's a stud recruiter who might be willing to take over a sanction riddled program, but will still be relatively easy to fire after sanctions end.
I agree, no way any other coach comes in this year. It is way too late and JT has not even resigned yet. If JT resigns this season (and I think he will; no later than August, but probably sooner), Fickell will be the interim HC for the entire 2011 season. That is what I wrote in my original post. Also, I think Fickell was named HC because much of this was forseen in February. The decision to make Fickell interm HC instead of one of the coordinators, especially Heacock who has been there forever, came out of left field. I think Heacock either was in the loop on some of this stuff or is considered too close to Tressel. If Tressel is fired/resigns, Heacock can't be far behind.
W.r.t. a replacement, I am talking about 2012 and beyond. So Oklahoma's #1 ranking this year is irrelevant. Stoops can have his cake and eat it too. But after 2011, I think he would seriously consider the job. Everyone has their price. Frankly, I think Meyer is approached first (let's face it, he already has been on an informal level), but he is young, has an impeccable record, wants to sit out more than one season and this is just a bit too messy right now. Maybe he takes it, but I don't think so. Just a gut feeling.
The question then becomes, who next? Will OSU really stick with Fickell? We are talking tens of millions of dollars per year at stake here. Look at what happened to UM when we hired a coach who did not work out. Look at other programs (Alabama, Miami, Nebraska, ND) who hired the wrong coaches and ended up wandering the wilderness for many years. Gruden? Really? He is mentioned for every job more often than Stoops. IMO, Gruden will never coach another day in his life.
Bottom line: if you were the Athletic Director, what would you be looking for? I would be looking for as close to a sure thing as possible. The closest thing I see with Ohio ties is Bob Stoops. Maybe he says no, but I think he can be convinced. If I were AD, I would back up a dumptruck full of cash for Stoops before I hired someone like Dantonio. Maybe you go for Malzahn or Mullen or Peterson or Patterson, but each of those has at least as many question marks as Stoops. That is my logic.
The decision to make Fickell interm HC instead of one of the coordinators, especially Heacock who has been there forever, came out of left field. I think Heacock either was in the loop on some of this stuff or is considered too close to Tressel. If Tressel is fired/resigns, Heacock can't be far behind.
Pickell is 25 years younger than Heacock. To me, that says they picked a guy who could become HC for the long haul.
I never said Stoops would leave for any program. I think there are a small number of jobs most top tier coaches would consider and OSU is one of them. But it is a small list. Now that I think of it, I should also have mentioned Saban. If anyone thinks Saban wouldn't leave Alabama for another top tier school for enough money they are crazy.
Well, agree to disagree on Stoops.
Saban is a really different person than just about any coach out there. Ultimately, I think he wants total control, plain and simple. He doesn't want to do anything he doesn't want to do and doesn't want an administration bothering him with pressure to not medically redshirt kids or telling him not to oversign or recruit a certain kid. That's what Alabama gives him that no one else will. He is master there--as long as he keeps winning.
And, obviously, who really knows. I thought we were going to hire Les Miles for God's sake.
But, you mentioned a coach I have never heard of, the coach for Marshall. Look at all the disruption that has happened at UM from having a coach for only three years. OSU will not be looking for a placeholder coach. They will be looking for the next Woody Hayes.
Maybe the Marshall coach is really that good, IDK. If I were hiring a new head coach, however, I would be looking for the right guy for at least ten years. Meyers. Stoops. Patterson (I think he is waiting for the TX job to open up), Peterson (he will move at some point, just like RR out of WV), Kelly (Chip, not Brian, but OSU will have to outbid Phil Knight), Mullen, Malzahn. I would not be looking for someone I would likely have to replace in 2-4 years.
The sooners were a mediocre team in the decade leading up to Stoops' hiring. They had a few passable seasons during the 90's but they ran 3 coaches after Switzer out of Norman before he got there. while the Sooner faithful may grumble from time to time, I don't think he has bought lunch or dinner in Oklahoma for years -- okay maybe he has had to in the greater Stillwater area. The perks alone would be hard for him to pass up; an OSU deal would have to reset the payscale to get him to move to C-bus.
The Sooners had pretty much been irrelevant for the 90's, after getting hammered by corruption in the 80's. He didn't build the program, but much like Bo, he rebuilt it. Oklahoma's records-
That was not a good football program. A sleeping giant to be sure. But there were people wondering if he was better off taking the Iowa job. He certainly deserves credit for bringing them back to relevance, no doubt.
How did he not build that program? They were 3-8, 4-8, and 5-6 the three years prior to his arrival. He has ripped off nine 11+ win seasons since 99 taken the team to 9 BCS games, 3 national title games (won one) and has an overall record of 129-31. Schnellenberger and Blake tried their hardest to drive OU football into the ground in the 90's. Stoops brought it back the same way Carroll brought USC back.
Now the real question, considering Stoops has tons of talent at his disposal, is extremely respected and
loved in Norman, and makes a boatload of money (4.3 mil a year) what is so attractive about OSU to make him leave? Its pretty much a lateral move as far as prestige and how much more money can OSU really throw at him to make a difference? Most people that make 4.3 mil a year and already have a great job wouldnt uproot their family for 4.6 mil a year.
Everything I have ever read about the man indicates he will retire a Sooner.
Who is the greatest coach in Sooner history? Who is second? Sorry, but if you answered Bob Stoops to either of those questions you are wrong. Oklahoma was a top 10 program way before Stoops got there and it will be one long after he is gone.
So if its a top 10 program why leave? Oklahoma just seems like one of those "destination" jobs where coaches only leave to try their hand in the NFL.
Honestly, all I intended to do is given my opinion. This is not that big a deal.
Why would someone leave a top 10 program to go to another top 10 program? I can think of all sorts of reasons. Ed DeChellis just left PSU to go to Navy. Roy Williams left Kansas to go to UNC. Fitz refused to even speak with Brandon about the UM job. It's way more complicated than just "Bob Stoops is at a top 10 program" so that's the end of it.
I gave detailed reasons above why I think he would make such a move. Clearly, you disagree. I am sure you have your reasons. Cool. It's not worth arguing over.
Fair enough. I didn't mean to argue just wanted you to elaborate a little bit. I always wondered why people thought he'd leave his current job that's all.
Have you ever been to Norman?
I have been to Norman, about 5 times when I was growing up, long story , but we went there every summer during my 'teen' years and stayed in un-occupied dorms for a week. Honestly, back then I was never very excited about going to Oklahoma, but it really wasn't that terrible, pretty fun actually.
Leaving Norman to go to COLUMBUS.
While it's technically correct to say that Oklahoma was a top 10 program before Stoops got there, that was several years before he got there. They were way down when he arrived.
The second greatest? Stoops really doesn't have so many years left to move up that roster, but he can where he's at, where he has a program already ranked #1, rather than one about to get sanctioned (which is the only way he gets the job). Every program has thought a boatload of money would make him leave. Ask Notre Dame. But not being an OSU grad or anything (like half your examples below), I just don't see the motivation. But your guess is as good as any, I guess.
I think the point is, Oklahoma had an outstanding, albeit shady history long before Stoops was even born. Oklahoma was a dominant power in the Big 8, usually owned rival Nebraska, and competed for national titles. The 90s were down for Oklahoma as they sought to clean up after Switzer (who was probably no more corrupt than those who preceeded him) and some bad hires (Schnellenberger who was tired and Blake who as the token alumni hire).
It would be more appropriate to say the Stoops restored or resurrected the Oklahoma program and tradition. That said, he isn't leaving anytime soon.
The Big 12 is NOT dominated by UT. One conference championship every four years is not domination, particularly when Oklahoma is the program winning the other three. If Oklahoma can pay his salary, it's a great ticket to the BCS title game if he can go undefeated.
The realistic best case for Bob Stoops at OSU is Oklahoma. Seriously, they're basically the same program in terms of results (ignoring last year).
Could argue that with the departure of Nebraska, that's the preferred conference to be coaching one of two powerhouse teams and getting to BCS championship games more frequently. Easier path than the current big10, presumably. Who knows, though.
It is my opinion. You don't have to agree with it. I would love to hear yours.
Btw, I didn't neg you.
How many national championships does OK have? How many wins? Top 10 finishes? Heisman's? All-americans? And how many of each of those is attributable to Stoops?
You are right about one thing. Your use of the term "dumbest" absolutely applies here.
In the future, get your facts straight before you log in and post. It will save us both a lot of wasted time (and, in your case, more unnecessary embarrassment).
1) Stoops has won 1 national championship in his 12 years. ohio state, of course, also has 1 national championship in the same span of time. Lateral move, from that perspective. Wilkinson and Switzer each have 3 to their names. There are, of course, just those 7 championships in Sooner history.
2) Stoops' 129 wins in 12 seasons gives him an .806 win pct, third all time and just behind Switzer (.837) and Wilkinson (.826). Of course, Stoops has also coached 13.3 games per season, compared to 10.5 for Wilkinson and 11.9 for Switzer. That makes things a little tougher. In fact, Stoops is averaging 10.75 wins per season, compared to 8.5 for wilkinson and 9.8 for Switzer.
3) Stoops finished in the AP top 10 eight times in twelve seasons (75%). Switzer did it 12 out of 16 times (75%), and Wilkinson did it 12 out of 17 times (71%). Stoops compares very favorably.
4) Oklahoma has 5 Heisman trophy winners - 1 under Wilkinson, 1 under Fairbanks, 1 under Switzer, and 2 under Stoops.
5) There were 36 AA's under Wilkinson (2.1/season); 51 under Switzer (3.2/season); and 32 under Stoops (2.7/season).
In conclusion, your assertion that Stoops doesn't seem to approach the status of Bud and Barry seems flawed.
Ted Ginn Sr.
But Ginn Sr. would have to take a pay cut from what OSU currently pays him.
is almost as big of a douchebag as Tressel so it wouldnt surprise me at all. i still stand my earlier comment tht brian kelly and dantonio r the biggest dbags in the game
is almost as big of a douchebag as Tressel so it wouldnt surprise me at all. i still stand my earlier comment tht brian kelly and dantonio r the biggest dbags in the game
They are already looking at, especially those with ties to OSU. Of course, given my lack of knowledge of these schools in the area, I have no idea who would be the most likely candidates...other than Hazell, of course.
If things are really bad at OSU, they are going to clean house. Expect them to try and get a super recruiter in there to keep the talent level up that they can easily fire after four years when sanctions are up. Doc Holliday from Marshall comes to mind. USC basically did that with Kiffin, but expect OSU to not pick someone with close ties to Tressel.
it could turn into a UM Bball Fisher situation with Fickel..sometimes interim coaches intrigue AD's
Eric Mangini. He always gets the shitty jobs in Ohio.
I've voting for Dantonio. The Spartan psyche is already damaged by the last coach who bolted after achieving semi-success (Saban). A second time would just be priceless.
... but, yeah, it would be an epic meltdown in EL if it happened.
Charlie Weiss is an offensive genius and has no ties to Tressel. Hire him now, OSU! Please!
If it was me doing the hiring, I would go far away from anyone even remotely connected to the present staff. I would look for someone like coach Hoke. Someone with some experience and a definite passion for football and tosu. I just hope whoever they get can't recruit like the amazing Hoke and co.
...I don't give a damn.
Who gives a you know what who coaches that school, as long as we kick their ass.
Gruden will be mentioned in the mix but eventually they will go with Gus Malzahn. Go ahead and tell all of your friends that you heard it here first.
Dantonio would jump at the offer to coach OSU. MSU isn't exactly primed for longterm success and no one good (Saban, Petrino) ever stays.
Dantonio should be the favorite IMO (surely not the "longest shot" on the list). Regardless of the current heat in Columbus....
He has strong ties to OSU, a resume and name recognition the fans would accept, and it's still a far more desirable position than the MSU job.
Is in his mid-50's with a heart condition. All joking aside the OSU job could kill him. He has to know that and so must OSU.
Then I'd agree. I just don't see him joining OSU with a multi-year bowl ban and reduced scholarships.
MSU isn't exactly primed for longterm success and no one good (Saban, Petrino) ever stays.
What does Petrino have to do with MSU?
I do agree though, Dantonio would be on that shit.
If enough stuff really goes down, not one respectable coach would take that job with all of the scholarship reductions, sanctions, and probably bowl bans.
Two words: LANE KIFFIN
I think "who follows him" is literally more interesting. . .the FBI, the police, the band? Or maybe who follows him out the door. . .the AD, the President, players?
RonP for Ohio!
1 stoops...turned down his dream job in nd, twice! And turned down osu already, didn't even talk to osu!
2 gruden.....dude makes over a million a yr to do tv broadcasts of games.....he knows his family now...he isn't giving that up...and not to mention he is becoming a football media rockstar.....not happening no matter what program or nfl team comes calling.....(this reminds me of all the talk about jimmy johnson's return to coaching..yeah you see how that went)
3 Ferentz... makes 4.5 million a yr overall in iowa city.... money isn't the issue and he is reveared there even if he goes 8-4...try that in a2 or cbus.........................................
4 Meyer....... Too soon but the real issue for osu is sanctions....why go into a job riddled with handcuffs and one mistake makes it ten times worse! Honestly I don't see Meyer coaching in the bigten at all.... unless joepa retires this yr and pennst comes calling and Meyer has a clean slate....could happen...osu and sanctions not happening.
5 Glenn Mason.... I know I know huge disappointment here but the second the job is open turn on the bigten network to see him gravelling for the job........
We should ask Glen Mason's hot wife. She comments on here, right?
Paterno is going to die as head coach of Penn State, then they'll bury him at mid field in Happy Valley just so he can still be a part of the team after he's gone.
I don't think Meyer coaches ever again. Furthermore, I think he's damaged goods to a lot of people in football. He started to seriously fall off at Florida once Strong and Mullen left and had a lot of kids get in trouble. From the perspective of a team going into sanctions, a coach with a history that includes lots of player arrests isn't going to be optimal. That's before you get into his health problems. He's a dream for fans, but I think people actually sticking their necks out to hire him think differently.
This is why I gave him 10-1 odds. He didn't just leave Florida for family reasons, but also for health reasons. And he also didn't just leave, he left, came back and then left again...and after only a few years.
While he might--might--be temped by an open OSU job, it's not clear OSU would choose a short-termer like that. They tend to go for more dependable, long-term types.
He's high-risk, high-return. The only way I see them going this way is if they truly perceive themselves to be at the very top rung of college football and think they can avoid a significant fall. The fall however is probably inevitable with what they are facing, especially if it comes to Tressel leaving, and taking a big chance, in the end, probably won't seem like the best choice. There will be voices that want someone like Meyer - it will depend on who down there holds the most sway.
If they bring in Meyer and something else bad happens, then they are really screwed.
I had an interesting conversation while delayed in O'Hare last week with a guy who played for Florida (after Spurrier -- he didn't know him -- so probably in the 1970s?). I don't know if he's involved with the program still or not. He came over because I made a comment about Charlie Weiss and he's not a fan. We got onto the subject of Urban Meyer and he said Urban probably will coach again, but not in the SEC -- he didn't like the things he would have had to do to compete with the SEC West, noting Muschamp's a Saban guy who's unfortunately what you need in the SEC these days. He was a big fan of Urban - said he's the kind of coach who really cares about his players.
FTR he said we've got a great coach in Hoke and called RR a "weasel" -- I didn't get into it.
I don't think Tressel leaves, but if he were to retire, quit or get fired I think that they'll try to stay close to home. Fickell or maybe even Spielman would be my best bets.
If Tressel goes out at osu it would likely mean the NCAA slapped the university with a show cause order. I'm assuming that would also mean osu would get spanked with probation, loss of scholarships, and things like that.
So I don't see any brand name coach (Meyer, Gruden, Stoops) coming to a program in that much trouble when they could coach almost anywhere.
Do you think that the Buckeye fans have topics on their board about how [INSERT FORMER PLAYER OR COACH WITH SOME TIES TO THE PROGRAM] always considered coaching at OSU to be their dream job and will definitely, 100%, BKFinest it, guaranteed jump at the job if it is offered so that he can "come home"?
OSU might be best served to make an internal hire...Maybe the defensive / offensive Coordinator.
As a long term solution or possible interim coach? If OSU's violations end up being only Tatgate, then I could see an internal promotion for a long term coach. However, as the OP mentioned, if new violations emerge at OSU and they're anything close to what has been thrown out in some other posts, I would think OSU would need to clean house.
4. Mark Dantonio. Odds 20-1.
I know some OSU bloggers are suggesting Dantonio, which would be funny in some ways, and not in others. He had no compunction leaving Cincinnati for MSU, so I doubt loyalty would be a factor. But I just don't see him leaving a stable MSU situation for an unstable OSU one (which is what it would be, in this hypothetical scenario).
I think these odds should be about 8-1. MSU will never sniff at a BIG championship again. Although he will have to rebuild OSU he will have a huge recruiting advantage there compared to what he has at State.
I don't think the issue is whether or not Dantonio would take the job, it's whether or not OSU offers it to him. I don't know the ins and outs of his coaching career, but he's had enough success at MSU to warrant at least a look. His record at MSU would suggest he's a not terrible choice, but not necessarily a great one. But I think the problem will be Dantonio's obvious inability to control his players. Media darling or not, any sane search committee is going to look at his teams' off field issues and pass.
If OSU gets slapped with major sanctions, they're going to want someone squeaky-clean, as they'll have to rebuild their image and also hope nothing else happens while under sanction.
If OSU gets slapped with major sanctions, a lot of coaches who might jump at the chance to coach there won't, because you might never make it to the good years.
Someone who's a true believer in the program, but who was not around during the questionable years, would be the best fit IMO.
On a similar topic, do we want Tressel fired or do we want him to stay so we can beat him. Interested arguments. I would start my own thread....
I would love to see Dantonio take the job just because I can't stand that guy. Their #1 target is Meyer, but it is definitely way too early for him to return back to football. Dantonio is not a bad fit for the position. He has been doing well at msu and ohio is his home state.
Seriously -- if indeed Tress is fired, and if the recent rumors are even 10% true, then the program will be TOXIC.
Assume: (1) loss of scholies, (2) bowl ban, (3) potentially a TV ban? (4) miscroscope of the press and NCAA for a few years, and (5) Bucknut fans desperate to recapture the glory and get past their version of Horror.
So, what big-name coach -- even of a decently successful middling team -- would take THAT rebuilding job? And tSIO won't go to anyone remotely implicated in the affairs, hence, no current assistance need apply.
Seems to me, tSIO is likely to get:
(1) a never-been-HC before assistance OC/DC, who yearns to prove himself, or
(2) someone maybe who's been retired, or a long-time coach or something, with a SQUEEKY clean reputation and who doesn't yearn for national championships but instead likes the challenge of rebuilding tSIO (which will deify him in Ohio if he can).
I have no names in mind, esp. for #1. But tSIO's calls to anyone like Gary Patterson, etc. are going to go unreturned. Not even Dumbtonio would give up his second-tier gig at Sparty for the fourth-tier gig tSIO will be.
except Dantonio. I don't think he'd actually be offered the job, but he was, he would leave in a heartbeat, IMO. A majority of the time he speaks in the media and has denigrating comments towards Michigan, it sounds to me like he's just giving OSU the pillow talk he thinks they want.
I heard Gruden's wife was seen house-hunting in Columbus.
My sense is that they'll look in-house, though if the allegations spread too wide they might have to look at a Dantonio type just because he fits the mold and isn't sullied. I've read a couple of places that Fickell is the likely successor, but he's also been around for almost a decade and you have to think he's not oblivious to some of the shenanigans that went down in Columbus.
I think Tressel will survive this year just because it is so late in the year for a change, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if he was sent packing in 2012 as more comes out about his involvement/lack of oversight regarding Tategate.
What makes me laugh a little is that almost everyone was bummed out when Pryor chose the Bucknuts over Michigan, but since he arrived on campus he's underwhelmed on the field and been a pain off it. Maybe he would have won a couple more games for RR that first year and he'd still be coach, but the drama level would have been through the roof and I'm not sure it would have ended well for anyone involved.
I was under the assumption that L. Fickell would get a one year try and loaned out after the season while OSU does a quiet HC search, I don't think they could get a big name pending how big of an anvil that drops on OSU. Even if I was L. Fickell I would want to go to a MAC school while the caretaker HC takes the heat in C-Bus and either him or the Kent St coach(Hazell) comes back when the smoke clears. So my prediction would be L. Fickell all year followed by either the OC/DC (unless they are forced to clean house) to keep the program afloat for the time being and then hire the big coach when the program comes off recruiting restriction or Fickell/Hazell if there worthy.
Maybe too early to tell but IF what we're hearing is true and the shit is real in OSU land what would be the possible sanctions?
Has to more than USC but less than SMU. I think the OSU fan base wishing for just last year's season to be vacated might be a pipe dream, possibly the whole JT era? As Wolverine Historian has stated there going to be a popcorn shortage soon.
I think Bob is unavailable, honestly, so maybe they look at his li'l bro?
Not the greatest coach ever, at Arizona at least, but has the Big 10 pedigree and is from Ohio. Plus AFAIK there's never been a whiff of scandal at Arizona during his tenure.
Also, this is an uninspired choice so I hope it's in consideration!
Really the speculation right now, while fun, is completely irrelevant. The direction of the next hire will depend greatly on two things:
a) How well OSU is able to peg this soley on Jim Tressel and
b) The degree to which the NCAA punishes OSU.
The longer Tressel stays, the longer tOSU can paint him as an egotistical, power driven coach who betrayed his staff, players and University to win at all costs. With him there, there is a sense of a clear target, and all the other coach involvement becomes less important. However, if he were removed sooner than later, the floodgates might open up and we might see just how many of his assistants were involved. The more they appear to be involved, the less likely they will hire one of them to guide the ship, even for a brief time period.
The degree of punishment will also be a key factor. All of these former Ohio residents that get mentioned like Stoops, Gruden, Meyer, they aren't getting any younger. They'll probably have a few years with limited scholarships at best, maybe worse. That will be at least two to three years behind, and then a few more to recover depending on transfer of players, additional loss of scholarship through student transfers and a drop in graduation rates ... this could be a long reconstruction process. If that is the case they'll get a coach who will appear that he's overreached for a job, but really, really loves OSU. Passion doesn't insure victories.
Glenn Mason might have been a good caretaker coach, but that would have had to occur right after leaving Minnesota. He's been out of coaching for 4 years I believe, and he wasn't young when he was fired. Look at a successful MAC coach with Ohio ties or assistant coach in the Big 10 or SEC, or Big 12, but who isn't the hot commodity of punishment is severe. Hot targets like Malzahn will pass for a better immediate opportunity.