OT: How can you be so bad at your one job?
Where do I sign up to be an instant replay official?
I mean... how can you be so bad at your job? How many times have we seen conclusive evidence not be recognized? Is there a vision test?
Wow.
What? Who?
Just googled it and I'm surprised this is the first time I'm reading about this. Then again, I get a lot of my sports news from Reddit and the users there dismiss just about every sexual assault claim they come across.
Now, and forever.
That's all.
Honestly after the shit we've gone through against Wisconsin (the 3 pointers off the backboards and half court heaves) i really don't care if they got screwed. I hated every team in the Final 4 so whoever won or lost didn't really matter.
It's not about Wisconsin. It's about favored programs and coaches getting all the calls in Championship games.
Next time we play one of these favored teams in a meaningful game, we want it to be called fairly. That's all.
Don't forget the other blown out of bounds call, with about 3 minutes left, when a Duke player stepped out and the refs missed it. Duke then scored.
That's never called. Give me one insance where it's indisputable. If we're talking NBA, maybe (I don't wath I don't know) If we're talking college, no. That's a really smart play on the Duke guy's position, and one we were all taught in high school. The fact that his elbow hit the Wisc player's face is an accident and therefore "basketball play". I don't think any b-ball player would call that, even less the refs.
Both winning teams were coached by a hall of fame coach, both losers had the big ten and national players of the year, both winners were from the acc, both losers were from the big ten, both had a small white dude play out of their minds (spike, allen), both were close games and had end of game calls that were incorrect, (the block and the out of bounds play). Also both games featured a red and blue team.
Louisville was still in the Big East when they beat us in the NC game.
but the announcers didn't even blink at it so I guess that rule may have changed.
it hits the shot clock, or goes all the way over.
(Fyi, I'm a former college club, hs varsity ref, now coach)
the same officials from the title game against Louisville. Is that true? If it is, what in the fuck were these jokers doing near another title game?
Checked the box scores and no, this was three different incompetents. And none of the six were TV Teddy or Gene Steratore.
I'd say ours was worse. They waited until the 2nd half in this game to miss calls. In our game, they missed it from the start with Burke's 2nd foul, the goaltend that didn't happen, getting the foul on the wrong person, and then missing the block on Siva.
This garbage happens time and time again. NCAA basketball refs are past questionable...they're incompetent. Just ridiculous how they favor teams.
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in just about every sport, at every level. they are asked to do a very difficult job.
Perfect haha. Great movie.
As someone said below-no repercussions for being terrible means you keep getting terrible, one-sided games called.
No wonder Smithers made me head bee guy.
if you're a bball ref for a pretty big conference you make some decent money. I'm sure most of them have other jobs. When I say decent money, they're not making 6 figures but they probably make 50-70K which is a heck of a lot more then what high school refs make.
1. Basketball officials do not have conference affiliations
2. All of them do have day jobs. Ed Hightower was a school superintendent, there are lawyers, judges, businessmen, etc. They tend to work fixed evening schedules and weekends, and it's seasonal anyway, so it usually works out.
low size (>30) but the number I recall from college refs was ~80k. That's not a lot (more than I make as a recent grad, but that's not saying much) but that's still way higher than the median american. I know we here make more than average, but median america makes less than 50k. So yeah, working for even 70k isn't bad. (1099 employees, so they have to cover their own insurance etc. Deduct as you will).
low size (>30) but the number I recall from college refs was ~80k. That's not a lot (more than I make as a recent grad, but that's not saying much) but that's still way higher than the median american. I know we here make more than average, but median america makes less than 50k. So yeah, working for even 70k isn't bad. (1099 employees, so they have to cover their own insurance etc. Deduct as you will).
Ugh. Every person I see on Facebook who posts about the lousy officiating, some State fan they're friends with is Johnny-on-the-spot with, "Durrr yup, Duke getting all the calls reminds me a lot of another blue team!". Michigan hasn't played a basketball game in over three weeks, State was just blown out in the semifinal two nights ago, and somehow Michigan's all they can think about.
Not to mention Michigan had one of the most phantom fouls I've ever seen help cost them a National Championship only two years ago, and State's coach is nationally known for his antics with the officials. Both their obsession and lack of self-awareness are stunning.
The irony and complete lack of self awareness in the comment is priceless.
Sorry if you didn't, but it's a little ambiguous...I hope you don't mean my comment. I can quite sincerely tell you that after that game I was most definitely not thinking about Michigan State basketball. Until I saw the inanity I just described.
the beginning of the second half had a lot of questionable calls, but for some reason the tv coverage never replayed half of them, so it was hard to see whether or not the calls were good or bad.
i don't think the fact that wisconsin didn't foul a lot the rest of the season is necessarily meaningful because they never played a team capable of driving like duke could.
the real reason wisconsin lost was because their offense collapsed. some of it was good defense, and some of it was just terrible execution.
Honestly, from the angle, on a blurry replay, you can't be sure. You *think* you are sure, but you can't really see his finger deform, and your brain is making 3D inferences about a 2D image that are often unreliable.
They should just do away with the replays. It's not worth the wait. You can't see much extra on a blurry replay, and then people think they can see things they really can't, and the announcers muck it up, and it ends up just being a coin-flip that's not better than the call you started with. And it takes several minutes. We all accept that there is some luck in the game, whether it's precisely where the ball lands, or where my foot falls, or whatever. You win or lose regardless of that stuff, and it's pointless to complain about.
the spin changed on the ball. That's the tell-tale sign even for IM guys (the experienced guys taught us to look at the spin rather than fingers; spin is longer and more definative than a t.1 seccond touch)
Maybe he touched it, maybe he didn't.
I'm tempted to put a .PDF presentation together about this. But alas, we must leave it here.