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OT How bad does Silas Redd's Transfer look in hindsight?

USC loses to 6-7 Georgia Tech to finish 7-6. Silas Redd tranfers away from Penn State which turned out to be one of the biggest overachievers this year to USC which has clearly fallen the flattest I've ever seen a Preseason #1 fall.

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December 31st, 2012 at 6:54 PM | USC looked atrocious and has (Score:5 Normal)
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USC looked atrocious and has carried themselves terribly the past few weeks.  Everything Kiffin touches turns to shit.

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December 31st, 2012 at 7:01 PM | Look at the recruiting class (Score:1)
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Look at the recruiting class he put together with the limited # of schollies. I wouldn't be saying that just yet he's got plenty of time.

 

 

 

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December 31st, 2012 at 7:08 PM | yeah, but (Score:5 Normal)
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what about the talent he had this year?  This team was preseason #1, all the talent in the world, and ended up 7-6.  He won't have plenty of time if this continues.

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December 31st, 2012 at 7:11 PM | That class (Score:3 Normal)
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Is quickly falling apart though...

This might sound arrogant, and if it is, it is. We’re Michigan.

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December 31st, 2012 at 7:13 PM | Was just going to say that. (Score:0 Normal)
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Was just going to say that.  A lot of those 5*s are looking at ND now.

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December 31st, 2012 at 6:59 PM | Meh. Still got to live in (Score:1 Normal)
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Meh. Still got to live in Southern Cal

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December 31st, 2012 at 7:10 PM | Living in the ghetto of Southern Cal, (Score:5 Normal)
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That is. They had multiple shootings on campus this past semester.

Yep, that's Simba made out of a pineapple.

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December 31st, 2012 at 7:23 PM | Whoa. Had no idea USC was in (Score:2 Normal)
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Whoa. Had no idea USC was in a grummy area.

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December 31st, 2012 at 9:05 PM | Yeah (Score:2)
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There's a number of Crip and Blood factions that have turf near USC. This kid's commentary is sad, sickening and frightening.

 

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December 31st, 2012 at 7:43 PM | Are you sure? (Score:1)
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The only one I know of is the Halloween one at the Black Students Association party.

There have been a few shootings outside of campus.

 

AS far as crime is involved, crime is an issue on all college campuses, not excluding Ann Arbor.

http://police.umich.edu/clery_2011.html

"The street legend is back, bitches!"

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December 31st, 2012 at 8:39 PM | Yes.. because Ann Arbor and (Score:5 Normal)
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Yes.. because Ann Arbor and Compton are so similar.

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December 31st, 2012 at 9:15 PM | LA Geography (Score:2)
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Compton is about 10 miles south of USC. The neighborhoods you're thinking of are Exposition Park/Adams-Normandie/Historic South-Central. All places with unfortunate (though often perhaps over-stated) levels of violence, though not all actually the same place.

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January 1st, 2013 at 12:53 PM | Yes, USC is neighbored by (Score:1)
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Yes, USC is neighbored by some occasionally sketchy neighborhoods. And, yes, there have been a small handful of violent crimes in the USC area. At the same time, though, Compton, like Harlem, is a large and mostly benign area that gets grossly broad-brushed -- typically by whites who've never been there -- as a giant gangbanger war-zone.

In fact, USC is a pretty impressive place whose students tend to be smart enough to navigate their way through/around the rougher areas and toward the many safe areas just beyond. Students feel quite safe and comfortable there. In fact, USC attracts more affluent and coddled Angeleno kids than does UCLA, which is located in lily-white Westwood.

 

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December 31st, 2012 at 8:54 PM | That link confirms that there (Score:5 Normal)
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That link confirms that there is almost zero crime in Ann Arbor.

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December 31st, 2012 at 7:14 PM | It still puzzles me how such (Score:1 Normal)
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It still puzzles me how such a thriving private school is located where it is...

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December 31st, 2012 at 7:36 PM | I tell you why (Score:1 Normal)
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If you opted to do a little research before posting you'll see that USC was founded way back in the late 1800's. The area wasn't a hell hole then. It became a problem much later on and at that point the Univerisyt was already rooted in the area. The school thrives in a not so great part of town, a part that has culturally changed with immigration etc. And guess what?  Many kids would give their left nut and right breast to go there. And let's not be blind to the fact that many of the top college football players and athletes from all sports in the country end up playing at USC even though it's not in the greatest of areas. But then again, look at a lot of prestigious schools in large cites. Many are now located in bad areas which weren't bad areas when the schools were founded.

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December 31st, 2012 at 8:13 PM | Exactly. Columbia and (Score:4 Normal)
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Exactly. Columbia and UChicago are other prime examples. Cities change and universities don't just up and move. Yale isn't in a great area either.

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December 31st, 2012 at 11:58 PM | Duke and Penn are two more (Score:2)
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Duke and Penn are two more prestigious schools located in sketchy areas.  It's a surprisingly common phenomenon.

 

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January 1st, 2013 at 1:16 AM | UChicago always struck me as (Score:2)
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UChicago always struck me as a bad location, but as someone who worked and goes to school at Columbia, the neighborhood isn't that bad.  It might not have the curb appeal that parts of the NYU campus have, but the area isn't as scary as people are led to believe.

That said, USC's campus does seem to be in a worse location that you'd expect given the price tag.

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January 1st, 2013 at 12:04 PM | Hyde Park is better than it (Score:2)
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Hyde Park is better than it used to be. Gentrification at work.

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January 1st, 2013 at 1:55 PM | Morningside Heights (Score:1)
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Morningside Heights (Columbia) and the NYU area both used to be pretty awful. It's only in the last 20 years or so that they aren't scary any more.

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December 31st, 2012 at 10:09 PM | USC is decent, (Score:2 Normal)
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but this: "Many kids would give their left nut and right breast to go there." makes it sound like Harvard (or Michigan!). Get real.

Also, Redd will be hated by PSU fans/ alumni forever and USC may/may not consider him a real Trojan.

"They're stuck with that quarterback (sophomore Braxton Miller) for the next two or three years, that's fine with me. He throws worse than (Tim) Tebow. - Steve Everitt

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January 1st, 2013 at 1:19 AM | I was going to say the same (Score:0 Overrated)
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I was going to say the same thing.  USC is a really good school, but UCLA is right next door, and I'd think students would rather go to Stanford or Cal Tech than USC if the goal was a top-notch education in CA.

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January 1st, 2013 at 12:04 PM | That's changing (Score:2)
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USC was ranked above UCLA academically last year for the first time... this year they are tied (and both above Michigan).   They've been using the tremendous amounts of donor money they've recieved to hire big time faculty away from some of the places you've listed and are on the rise academically.  

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January 1st, 2013 at 12:42 PM | US NEWS (Score:0 Flamebait)
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I don't take much into ranking undergraduate schools.  I believe anyone can get a good education at any university if they apply themselves. Unfortunately for you, US NEWS ranks USC a few notches ahead of the almight U of M. I only post this because I am guessing that you do care about superficial rankings. And while I know many people like to tout that having a U of M degree is great because of the alumni base, the same goes for SC. The bottom line is that only the ignorant will scoff at a USC degree.

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December 31st, 2012 at 7:02 PM | I'm sure most of us would (Score:3 Normal)
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I'm sure most of us would have done the same thing if we had been in his shoes. Obviously this didn't work out too well.

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December 31st, 2012 at 7:03 PM | What douches at USC. Didn't (Score:3 Normal)
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What douches at USC. Didn't even show up to their bowl dinner held by the committee.

When the ADept sells special jerseys and gear, you'll see my picture next to the targeted customer crowd. A sheep.....but a Blue one.....

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December 31st, 2012 at 7:06 PM | Double post (Score:-1 Redundant)
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Double post

When the ADept sells special jerseys and gear, you'll see my picture next to the targeted customer crowd. A sheep.....but a Blue one.....

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December 31st, 2012 at 7:04 PM | thought that grass was far greener..... (Score:3 Normal)
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You couldn't blame him, looked like he was going into an nfl offense, nfl qb, wr's he was suppose to complete that puzzle......reality is Kiffin didn't have a great staff there and it shows..  Not to mention he can be such a douche people enjoy him failing.  Silas, I would think his stock would have been better to stay at pennst.....

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December 31st, 2012 at 7:05 PM | Worked out well enough for him. (Score:5 Normal)
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He got to hang in El Paso for the holidays.  For you gringos, that's Spanish for "The Paso"

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December 31st, 2012 at 7:36 PM | To be fair, Penn State spent (Score:3 Normal)
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To be fair, Penn State spent the holidays in El State College.  And will continue to do so for the next several years.

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December 31st, 2012 at 7:08 PM | i mean yeah in hindsight it (Score:1)
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i mean yeah in hindsight it was a poor choice but he made what seemed like a pretty logical choice at the time. usc looked primed to at least make the rose bowl, and he clearly wanted a fresh start. there's no way he could have predicted the team would perform this poorly.

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December 31st, 2012 at 7:10 PM | This might be terrible, but (Score:2 Normal)
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This might be terrible, but I'm sort of glad. He's still going to have a pro career and get big $$$, but I hated the way he ditched his teammates, program, and university just to make a big career move. Maybe I'm too much of a dreamer, but I think there's something to be said for making a decision based on your loyalty and what's right, rather than what's going to make you the most cash and notoriety.

I miss King of Belch.

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December 31st, 2012 at 7:21 PM | What's right? What was (Score:5 Normal)
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What's right? What was "right" about staying at Penn State? The university didn't do what was right. That's why they're in this mess.

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December 31st, 2012 at 7:28 PM | It's not about the guilt of (Score:2)
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It's not about the guilt of the University administrators, but supporting your teammates.  Regardless, it wasn't "the university" that didn't do what was right; it was a select few administrators who encouraged criminal acts to occur, not the thousands of faculty, staff, teammates, students, and alumni of Penn State. Also, not everyone had the talent of a Silas Redd, where they can pick to transfer to any top-notch institution; why not work through one more year with your brothers on the field, trying to salvage something rather than taking the easy way out?

I miss King of Belch.

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December 31st, 2012 at 7:43 PM | I could hardly disagree more. (Score:3 Normal)
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Well, you have a point about leaving his teamates a year early, but why in hell should he feel loyalty to a program and school that had just fired his coaches and was in turmoil with many fans and students acting in ways that would embarass most decent people? Add in that the school and program turned out to not be like the ones he was sold as a recruit. Their season turned out better than anyone expected, but it would not have been a shock if it had been a disastrous sideshow full of distractions. He hardly took the easy way out, transferring to a program where he was gong to have a lot of competition for playing time. 

Eating is murder.

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January 1st, 2013 at 10:37 AM | He hardly took the easy way out (Score:2)
Don
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Yep, warm weather, a coaching staff renowned for laxity, incredibly hot cheerleaders, a fawning local media environment in one of the biggest markets in the world, and a team ranked #1 in preseason was pretty rough.


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December 31st, 2012 at 7:18 PM | How does a team that recruits like them go 7-6? (Score:2 Normal)
jcouz
Joined: 07/08/2011
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How can a team that recruits on the level that USC does finish 7-6?  They recruit on the level of Alabama.  I cannot even imagine Alabama finishing 7-6 under Saban during the rest of his tenure.  Lane Kiffin must have some pictures that USC's athletic director doesn't want to go public.

What ya gonna do when HOKEamania runs wild on you???

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December 31st, 2012 at 7:19 PM | Of course now it does (Score:1)
Hokain
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But nobody expected Penn St to have the year they had. I don't just mean record wise, but when he transferred everything negative was much fresher. Not many expected them to have anywhere close to the year they did with their image. BOB did a great job of changing a culture and a mindset to give them hope and support to this team. It is a great story to talk of the seniors who stayed, but if any one of them would have left It is hard to fault any of them. The situation affected each player current and former differently and I am sure his decision to leave wasn't solely on draft status and winning a title this year.



I am sure that was a factor in going to USC, but there were a lot of moral issues going on. Many guys left so technically you could ask why they did also, but why even bring it up. They do not have disloyalty issues because they left amid the worst scandal in sports history.

This might sound arrogant, and if it is, it is. We’re Michigan.

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December 31st, 2012 at 7:26 PM | Back to mediocrity for USC. (Score:4 Normal)
OmarDontScare
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Back to mediocrity for USC. College football fans have short memories. USCs program was a joke before Carroll got there.

I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right?

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December 31st, 2012 at 8:13 PM | That's because Carroll got (Score:5 Normal)
WolverineHistorian
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That's because Carroll got the best players money could buy.  Before he got there, USC was such a joke that they were referred to by the media as Southern Cal Community College...

2001: 6-6

2000: 5-7

1999: 6-6

1998: 7-6

1997: 6-5

1996: 6-6

1995: 9-2-1

1994: 7-5

1993: 8-5

1992: 6-5-1

1991: 3-8

The year before Carroll arrived, I posted on MLive and I remember a fellow Michigan fan asking, remember the days when we hated USC?  They have been so bad for so long that you can't even hate them anymore.  You just feel sorry for them. 

Go Blue!  Always!

http://www.youtube.com/user/WolverineHistorian

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December 31st, 2012 at 7:27 PM | Pro-tip: don't make a school (Score:5 Normal)
FreddieMercuryHayes
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Pro-tip: don't make a school decision based on someone visiting you in a helicopter.

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December 31st, 2012 at 7:43 PM | I highly doubt he is (Score:2 Normal)
Dilithium Wings
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I highly doubt he is rethinking his decision. He got to go a bowl game, get free shit, while penn state is staying at home

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December 31st, 2012 at 7:44 PM | Lane Kiffin (Score:1)
UMFoster
Joined: 01/24/2011
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Why is It that Lane Kiffin is always a hot coaching name whenever there is an opening at a good school? He's proved that he is a good recruiter but hasn't proved anything on the field. Not to mention he has a history of cheating and getting sanctions. I don't see what all the buzz is about

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December 31st, 2012 at 9:50 PM | I think it might be Kiffin's (Score:2)
bluebyyou
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I think it might be Kiffin's wife, Layla, who is incredibly hot.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1175650-layla-kiffin-and-the-25-hotte...

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December 31st, 2012 at 8:06 PM | Graduate student at USC (Score:5 Normal)
Wolverine in Troy
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It is quite nice out here- Beautiful campus. The location coined as the ghetto is a bit outdated and usually referenced by people who have never been.

Too bad their football program is the devil.

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December 31st, 2012 at 8:14 PM | the real question is if you (Score:2)
farside286
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the real question is if you go to usc games do you wear michigan or usc gear?

Class of '11 B.S.E (E.E.)
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December 31st, 2012 at 8:26 PM | That is a fair question (Score:5 Normal)
Wolverine in Troy
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That is a fair question- I've never been to a USC football game. Why would I? They don't even own their own stadium.

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December 31st, 2012 at 10:50 PM | Well said.  (Score:3 Normal)
k1400
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Well said. 

I will fight 'til I am dead, a winged helmet on my head.

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January 1st, 2013 at 10:54 AM | I've been (Score:2)
CleverMichiganR...
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And while the USC campus itself is lovely, most people would in fact consider South Central LA a bad area.

The world looks better through maize mirror tint. 

Still waiting on backup.

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