frank beamer #1
OT: How awkward is this going to be?
Just retire the guy if you want him out.
This confirms that RR will stay for 1 more year, and ......well, nevermind!
Maybe the AD wants to retain Casteel but is afraid the new coach would bring a new staff with him. This guarantees Casteel's retention.
This guarantees Casteel's retention.
This is 100% pure speculation, but does it really? It's not like Casteel has no choice in the matter. The AD is basically telling him, "We want to keep you around, but you will never be our head coach." If I'm Casteel, this whole coach-in-waiting plan does not necessarily make me happy.
The kids won't know who they're playing for, who they're trying to prove themselves to. Not a smart decision. But Holgorsen seems like he's a good coach.
I will change mine now!
For this University. They chased Bobby Bowden out of town, hung him in effigy then BB turned which was once a girls school in Florida St a National power Then the Athletic Dept left RR's upgrade requests in the toilet from which it started. So without repeating what you already know WVU yearns for retribution especially when there is no cause for it. Oliver Luck--Andrew's Dad--is part of the lineage of poor choices and witch hunt. Bumble On, WVU!
I can assure you Oliver Luck is no bumbler, he's very smart, if you look at his resume he was a Rhodes Scholar, before he came back and played in the NFL. He is a new AD who did what's best for his University. He came in and put his stamp on the coaching situation at WVU. He went out and hired the guy he wanted and set it up so the nice guy who isn't the best coach in the world could coach one more year and leave with his head up. It's much better to make a decision than to leave your Coach, your fans and your recruits twisting in the wind.
This just seems to affirm how clueless Bill Stewart is as a head coach. Who else would stay on as head coach in this situation?
"We like you, but you are not good enough to coach here...but you can stay on for one more year...but we are hiring the next head coach now."
If I were Stewart I would be clearing out my desk today.
What else he going to do where he makes several hundred thousand next year? He is getting paid to be a figurehead, not a bad job. I don't thinking he will be missing out on any head coaching offers.
I'd gladly stick around another year for $800k. Plus that year would be a breeze since you wouldn't need to recruit. That would probably mean something like 40% more free time for the same salary. Yes please.
but since Stewart was a career assistant coach until he got the head job 3 years ago I'm guessing the 800K he's making is far and away the most he's ever made. Combine that with him being 58 yrs old and I doubt he's going to turn down the chance to make another 800K in 2011.
I'm sure if he had a better offer, he'd consider leaving. The reason he is being let go by WVU is that in the past 3 years, the team has regressed quite a bit from where it was at the end of RR's time there. Teams notice that, and I kind of doubt anyone is knocking down the door for Stewart's resume.
I do think that he'll be gone after the bowl game, irregardless of what the AD and the coaching staff profess now.
While they clearly haven't maintained the same level under Stewart as they had in the last 3 years under RR, I don't think Stewart has done that bad of a job. He's 27-11 in his 3 years with 3 different QB's I think. I was actual expecting WVU to fall a little harder after RR left than they have.
I'm guessing the fact that Stewart will be 59 yrs old next year would play a big role in schools looking at possibly hiring him too.
i struggle to resist a neg because of your use of "irregardless' - That, sir, is not a word. It is a red flag for bad things...
... what happened at Michigan, honestly. It should help keep the student athletes already in the program, should provide stability in recruiting, reduce the pains of transition, etc... Transition planning in any business is critical to the smooth hand off of power without disruption to the efficiency of the business. Doesn't always work and isn't suited for all cases (for example, if the exiting leader is just terrible), but I like the approach.
I recognize this could be a successful method of transition, however, the fact that the successor is coming in from outside the program makes me leery. If it was Casteel being promoted to HC I would probably feel differently about the situation.
To me bringing someone in from the outside isn't necessarily bad. It's more that Stewart doesn't appear to have any say in who was brought in. Alvarez brought Beilima in from a different school and mentored him for a year or two even though Alvarez probably had some assistants that had been with him longer. Kelly had only been an OC under Belioti for year before Kelly took over. But again, Belioti was the one who hired Kelly to be the OC.
On the one hand, yeah, I think Steward deserves the $800k, but you could have given it to him as a parting gift and demonstrate your appreciation, call it a buyout if you will, but to PUBLICLY say he's not your guy and the ONLY reason you offered him another year is because of the late 4 game winning strreak...well, hmmm. How many games did he have to win to be retained? Oops, another question which hits to close to home. Their coach knows but stays, our coach doesn't know but.....
With transitional practices in the corporate world. Although I would classify this as dirty pool in essence trying to retain what you stand to lose. You can polish this with MBA rhetoric but you are creating a vision to the public that your willing to force the hand from someone who has (in my estimation) served you well. Happens all the time in Corporate Clown-Town, but it doesnt make it right. Im anticipating this to fail.
Different coaches, like different CEO's, have different strengths and weaknesses and are best suited for different times in a school's or company's history.
I have seen numerous transitions work well when a CEO is brought in to take a company through an extremely difficult period like bankruptcy or total reorganization due to market/financial conditions and then have someone come in who is groomed to be the guy who is to take the reorganized or out of bankruptcy company back into the world and grow it.
Might work, might not. Depends on how Stewart and the rest handle it. Maybe they feel like they put Stewart in a job that was over his head and want to replace him but not shoot him and thus this will accomplish something that might work out well for both. As a thought, look at the current association with OSU that both John Cooper and Earl bruce enjoy even though they were both fired by that school.
We have a very recent experience in terms of changing coaches where the old one and all his staff save 1 was tossed out. Maybe WVU prefers this method having seen the issues surrounding the way we did it?
Think about how Bo writes about and discusses his transition at Michigan in his various books when he came in to take over as a guy with NO MICHIGAN BACKGROUND WHATSOEVER from Bump Elliott and how crucial the acceptance and influence of both Bump and Canham were to his acceptance and success at the U.
i was kind of curious about the rhetoric used by the AD saying that he expects WVU coach to compete for a national championship. isn't that a little cocky coming from a school that has never won a national championship? yes they were in a position to play in it in 2007 but then lost to Pitt. this kind of comes off as the AD saying that winning the big east means nothing to him because its weak. at least thats how my shattered logic (finals) interprets it.
They had undefeated regular seasons in 1988 and 1993 before losing their bowl games. Eventual national champ Notre Dame beat them by 13 in the 1989 Fiesta Bowl and Florida crushed them 41-7 in the 1993 Sugar Bowl.
The 1988 team didn't really play anybody but the 1993 beat some half-way decent teams (Virgina Tech, Miami and the Boston College team that gave Notre Dame its only loss that year).
So yeah, it's a bit cocky, but it isn't entirely unprecedented, either.
How awkward would it be if the same thing happens here... that Harbaugh becomes Head Coach and RR stays on one year to coach his guys, until we get old school players that fit Harbaugh's style? It may happen...RR wants to be a Michigan Man and this may be his way to do so.
This may be how Brandon plays it... for the offense will be primed to do well, and it'll take two years for Harbaugh to bring his guys in. RR is better off staying a year only and then leaving for a HC job instead of bolting in Jan to another OC job.
Today's dumbest theory, ladies and gentlemen!
Just when I thought you couldn't possibly be any dumber, you go and do something like this... and...
(opens mouth, lifts finger). . . . .(closes mouth, drops finger, squints)
Can you PLEASE pass that joint down here? You've taken now something like 74 hits in a row and you're posting the funniest shit we've ever seen.
We want some too!
It's interesting that the WVU AD said he's following the examples of Wisconsin and Oregon with how they replaced Belioti and Alvarez. Alvarez hired Beilima (sp?) and I'm pretty sure Belioti hired Kelly. However, with WVU it doesn't sound like Stewart was the one advocating hiring the guy from Oklahoma St.
I feel bad for Bill Stewart--he seems like a nice guy, just not the most charismatic. Also, I thought coaches in waiting had been banned by the NCAA.
I don't think they've been banned but I believe they have to follow the same guidelines as the head coach when it comes to recruiting.
Who do you listen to in 2011? The guy who isn't the head coach yet? The lame duck head coach who has no long term power? What if you're a senior? This idea could go bad in a hurry from locker room/chemistry standpoint.
And for the fans, what if the team sucks in 2011, who is to blame the old guy or the new guy? Does 2011 count for Holgorson in terms of player development and the BCS or bust ticking clock ?
Didn't get fired...
just... "got quit."
This whole situation makes you realize why RR left in the first place