OT: Hoke Could Learn From Spurrier
Why can't Hoke conduct a press conference like this? This is via EDSBS, which is running this instead of Hatin' Ass Spurrier today because, well, it's Gold.
- "That was a game I didn't like a bit."
- "The way we play is embarrassing."
- "We're not a very good team...and we have all the voters fooled, I guess cause we beat Georgia."
- [this number is just to point out Spurrier gets a Georgia insult in even in the midst of destroying his own team and coaching staff]
- "I'm taking over kickoff coverage." Enjoy being fired after game four, special teams coach.
- "Vandy is not an offensive juggernaut."
- "We've all seen good football teams. We ain't one. Maybe we can be. I dunno."
- [a thousand little shifts in his chair and thumps of the table]
- "It's one of the worst (wins) I've ever had."
- "We did force some punts...I apologize. We forced THREE punts."
September 22nd, 2014 at 4:46 PM ^
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September 22nd, 2014 at 4:47 PM ^
September 22nd, 2014 at 4:49 PM ^
I was trying to but it never ended up in the post. Maybe because I switched back to Rich Text before posting? I even read through the FAQ and still managed to mess it up.
September 22nd, 2014 at 5:08 PM ^
The difference now is that he's fielded three straight 11-2 football teams in the SEC. He's usually sarcastic as fuck and just tells-it-like-it-is, but he seems genuinely pissed off that the team is loafing and lazy. He's got a point. aTm burried the Gamecocks easily. The USC schedule is pretty friendly this year with only at Auburn and at Clemson to really worry about now.
Spurrier: "We'll probably finished 9-3 or 10-3, sumpin' like 'at"
September 22nd, 2014 at 5:17 PM ^
The SEC West is 6 teams deep (all but Arkansas). The East will be won by the team that got blown out by Alabama, the team that lost to Indiana, the team that barely escaped Vandy, or the team that lost to the team that barely escaped Vandy this past weekend.
September 22nd, 2014 at 5:30 PM ^
With Florida puking lately and Tennessee going full Michigan the SEC East is not super good.
At this point don't Georgia and South Carolina basically look to see who "the algrorithm" gives them in the SEC West crossover games.... and based on that the SEC East division winner is decided?
Missouri was actually pretty decent last year, they gave Auburn a heck of a game. I mean the SEC East sucks vs SEC West but most Big 10 teams would finish in the bottom 3 of the SEC East as well. I can't imagine the poor SEC East team that has crossovers with say Texas A&M, Alabama, Auburn, and LSU (or some mix of those) in any year.
September 22nd, 2014 at 5:45 PM ^
full Michigan."
Oh no. We are an adjective.
"God, where are we? We are Michiganed in the middle of no where right now!" And so on.
September 23rd, 2014 at 12:04 AM ^
Both South Carolina and Georgia have Auburn as a crossover (take a look at Auburn's schedule - just brutal). South Carolina already played A&M. Not sure who Georgia's other crossover is but at this point with the entire SEC West looking solid, except for maybe Arkansas, Georgia's other crossover will be pretty tough.
September 22nd, 2014 at 4:51 PM ^
That is a coach that commands respect and speaks his mind. We need one of those.
September 22nd, 2014 at 9:25 PM ^
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September 22nd, 2014 at 4:51 PM ^
but I'm okay with him NOT throwing his entire team under the bus on national television.
September 23rd, 2014 at 1:12 AM ^
September 23rd, 2014 at 8:37 AM ^
He called his team "an embarrassing group of guys" on national tv. Maybe that's acceptable for an NFL coach to say about his players, but it's not acceptable for a coach to trash his student atheletes. Spurrior has a lot of fire and is fun to watch in press conferences, but he went to far here, IMO.
September 22nd, 2014 at 4:52 PM ^
This is not Hoke's style. And if he starts doing this now or just in press conferences it will come off forced and phony. I like Spurrier's General tone and comedy, but that isn't Hoke
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September 22nd, 2014 at 5:02 PM ^
Like you said, this is how Spurrier is and I think - in the conference and environment in which he has to operate - this works and it is pretty amusing in that context.
I don't know that a similar shtick goes over quite as well up here in this neck of the woods, and that's only because - if I might borrow from the Five-Tool Coach thread below - there would likely be blowback from some elements about this being the prevailing nature of a prominent face of the institution. I could foresee cultural problems in that sense, that's all, or at the very least - if we were to be looking - it would make for a harder sell.
This is just an observation, of course. If we do end up looking at some point here, the school may need to expand its horizons, but personally, I don't mind that Hoke tries - even if it doesn't come across well to some - to stand in front of the team and take flack for performance.
September 22nd, 2014 at 4:58 PM ^
Dan Patrick played some of that this morning.
Great stuff.
This was ESPN worthy, not the one they had on today.
Loved the part when he said he was taking over the kick return D.
Wasn't Spurrier the one a few years ago when someone asked about the DB coverage he had someone go get the DB coach and brought him up to answer the question?
I enjoy him. Wouldn't fly at Michigan but I like him.
If he was at Michigan Adidas would go broke furnishing him visors that he ruined each game.
September 22nd, 2014 at 4:53 PM ^
It's easier to talk like that when you beat top ten teams and don't lose to Utah at home.
September 22nd, 2014 at 4:54 PM ^
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September 22nd, 2014 at 4:54 PM ^
When you have won like Spurrier you can lay it on thick. When Rodriguez pulled similar schtick he came accross as combative.
September 22nd, 2014 at 5:04 PM ^
When Hoke says We didn't execute that's throwing his players under the bus and not being accountable, but when Spurrier says We're not a very good team and The way we play is embarrassing that is somehow better?
Or is it merely yelling and being angry about things? What's the word, intensity?
September 22nd, 2014 at 5:10 PM ^
When I did I say Hoke threw his players under the bus?
My only point is that sometimes CoachSpeak sounds like "We didn't execute" or "we needed to make better football plays" and sometimes it sounds like this: owning up to it without trying to polish the turd.
Spurrier has always had his own style, which I happen to love. Hoke will never be this way and that's fine but I'd prefer a coach who didn't try to make me believe the egg his team laid on Saturday is Golden and not rotten.
September 22nd, 2014 at 5:15 PM ^
I'm not referring to you, specifically. I am referring to the contingent of fans on the board who complain after every presser about how Hoke throws his players under the bus and doesn't take responsibility. Those who may see this type of public behavior as somehow desirable even though it is doing the same thing (deriding the players and placing the blame on them).
September 22nd, 2014 at 5:09 PM ^
People think Spurrier has lost his chops but he has done very good things with SC football. It is basically like going to Wake Forest and making it relevant in football. In a tougher conference.
Because of Spurrier people think Florida has a long and glorious football history like Bama. It was a major underachiever ala Illinois for decades until he showed up. He came in and introduced air raid offense to a run happy conference and changed everything. Before that he made Duke - DUKE! - relevant. And he stopped into the USFL for a cup of coffee to coach a pretty damn good team.
We never bring up Spurrier and I doubt he'd come up north but I'd be ok with him up here... when he had UF type talent he did great things. And it would be the most entertaining coach since Bo to boot.
September 22nd, 2014 at 5:10 PM ^
Sure, Coach Hoke could throw his team under the bus like that. And if he did, all those who complain about him not being fiery enough will complain about how he'is a meany. When the team isn't good, the AATP crowd will find whatever excuse they want.
September 22nd, 2014 at 5:17 PM ^
I thought this was going to be about offensive philosophy.
A press conference? Pfft, who cares. For the life of me i don't understand why fans think press conference quotes are an important part of coaching.
September 22nd, 2014 at 6:06 PM ^
there's nothing hoke could do or say in a press conference that would contribute to my views of the product on the field.
September 22nd, 2014 at 7:03 PM ^
The one exception is the old Coastal Carolina coach's epic rant about acting like a dog. If Hoke went downright crazy like that, id be all in favor. Otherwise I don't give a damn if he gives generic answers or doesnt talk about injuries. Means nothing.
September 22nd, 2014 at 5:28 PM ^
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September 22nd, 2014 at 6:02 PM ^
I have determined that being a "jerk" is maybe kind of a good thing. Hoke being such a nice guy seems to manifest itself in things like him not firing coaches that should be fired (as documented here), just as an example.
September 22nd, 2014 at 6:04 PM ^
I love this man.
Fuck Brady Hoke and his smugness.
September 22nd, 2014 at 7:09 PM ^
Because he is not Spurrier?
September 22nd, 2014 at 7:10 PM ^
September 22nd, 2014 at 7:24 PM ^
At the start of the season he railed that Texas A&M never played anybody in pre-conference play. He took open shots at their scheduling concepts ... remember, South Carolina had never played Texas A&M previously. Spurrier had them at home and was just Game-Cocked about it. He and his tram were beaten like an old rug by the visitors .... a perfect reply to the shit he threw at them. No - we don't want any coaches like Spurrier - in any sport.
Go Blue!
September 22nd, 2014 at 8:46 PM ^
He dishes it out and knows he has to take it when he gets beats. He's not a hypocrite. I see his personality as being very similar to Jim Harbaugh.
He's a fiery competitor, unlike grandpa Hoke.
September 22nd, 2014 at 7:25 PM ^
haaa very entertaining... love the fire and passion he has to want to play winning football
September 22nd, 2014 at 7:35 PM ^
September 22nd, 2014 at 7:37 PM ^
that Brady Hoke leave to coach the Washington Redskins.
September 22nd, 2014 at 8:27 PM ^
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September 23rd, 2014 at 7:58 AM ^
Spurrier hasn't won shit at SC. Yes, he's built a solid program but how many conference chamiopnships has he won at SC? How many BCS games? If he were at MI for 6 years with those results, y'all would be saying what a dick he is for throwing his players under the buss. Stop, just stop.
September 23rd, 2014 at 8:55 AM ^
We can keep the "New", "Recent", and "Hot tabs, but then we need to add "OT" and "Press Conferences" to the list. This can be the world's biggest college sports team and press conference related blog wrapped into one.