This doesn't have to be an hour.
OT: Heisman Presentation Thread
5 min of highlights for each player. 5 mins of hoopla. 5 mins for the presentation. BOOM. Great show. Instead we get to hear all this BS of coaches saying their player is the best. Shocker. How sweet would that be if Big Will ends up being anywhere near as dominating as Suh?
Colt or Ingram win it. I'm a McCoy so seeing a first ever McCoy Heisman Trophy winner would be awesome! But I'd love to see Ingram win it too. Good luck to all finalists. One of these men are going to go down in college football history and on their way into the passage of becoming a legend.
lulz, "Call to Duty"
think its awesome that Kirk just said "Colt's 45" in regards to his amount of wins?
This Tebow vs McCoy lunch is stupid. Somebody teach these kids not to speak with their mouths' full.
The AP has unanimously selected Tim Tebow to be all-time QB for Texas and Bama in the NC game.
Twitter's two trending topics related to the presentation are "Heisman" and "Suh". Hopefully that comes to fruition.
I think that's just wishful thinking sadly. I'd love to see a Heisman winner on the Lions defensive line.
Anyone know the name yet?
I know the one you're talking about. the really inspirational uplifting one. I wish I knew the name.
Worst pick ever.
He was a good player on a GREAT team. He just thanked the O-Line. You better, since they did most of the work...
At least it's not Tebow
Don't ever say anything like that about Tim Tebow.
I hate the SEC.
Ingram wasn't even the best RB. Dumb.
Gerhart had 11 more touchdowns and almost 200 more yards. If you just watch the two, there is no comparison. It is crystal clear Gerhart is better and should have won the award. The Heisman officially means nothing to me.
Spiller was better than Ingram this year too.
That's how I would rank the RB's.
Mark would win it. His game against Florida really made him stand out in my opinion. Congradulations to Mark Ingram and Alabama on it's first Heisman inductee.
I thought his Auburn game stood out in my opinion.
And it's congratulations. There's a "t" in it.
It's a bad habit. I've always typed it like that since middle school. It's an inside joke with a friend of mine. Congratulations Mark Ingram. There fixed.
You mean stood out positively or negatively? He had 30 rushing yards, while their 2nd string RB looked much better than Ingram.
The Heisman is officially a joke now. I like Ingram but to say he was the most outstanding college player this year is laughable. Just that fact that Suh didn't win made the whole thing a joke.
Suh deserved the award. He single handedly destroyed the Texas offense and probably cost Colt a chance at the hardware. As said early, Ingram wasn't even the best back at the ceremony. Politics as usual.
I like, other then maybe Suh Ingram deserved it. I still thought Spiller might have deserved it, but he didn't get invited, so what do I know.
I was really hoping Suh would pull it out, and kinda disappointed when he didnt win it....but watching Ingrams reaction, I can't be too upset...means the world to him
I was hoping Suh wouldn't win just because i like bragging that Charles Woodson was the ONLY defensive player to ever win the Heisman. Dumb reason, i know.
Charlie Ward needs a jacket and tie.
worst pick ever. But not a very solid one. Bama's D was suffocating and having Julio Jones on your team opens up a lot of running ability. I would like to see how many votes were entered before Suh's game against Texas. Either way the fact that Suh came in 4th is pretty ridiculous. They should rename the Heisman so that it represents the best skill position player, if it was actually the best player Suh should have won.
bah. There is no justice in the world.
I've been saying this for years. The Heisman is the hype award, that is it. The fact that so much hay was made over the regional voting should point to the fact that this is a fucking popularity contest. Dumb. Congratulations Mark Ingram, Homecoming King!
no one was outstanding. it's not like gerhart was clearly the a-1 choice. the a-1 choice was a guy who realistically never had a chance at all.
so let's not get crazy with this worst pick ever stuff. eric crouch was standing up there after all.
and had a great career. Like many QBs that have won the Heisman it didn't translate to the NFL.
should have zero to do with his merit as a heisman winner, otherwise Tebow or McCoy should clearly have won tonight.
In 2001 when he won he had 1500 yards passing, 7 TDs to 10 interceptions, completing 55% of his passes. he ran for 1100 yards and 18 TDs which helps offset some of those awful passing stats but it shouldn't override it.
for comparison, pat white in 2007 threw for 1700 yards at 66% completions, 14 TDs to 4 Ints, and 1300 yards rushing.
i agree that pro success shouldn't matter but crouch essentially won the heisman due to a trick play where he caught a TD pass.
You can sum up that sentence in 2 words. Troy Smith
What a fucking joke.
I like the stroll down memory lane, it is not necessary but it is cool.
I wanted McCoy to win it, but I think it will benefit Ingram more than any of the others. Why?
Tebow: has a great life ahead of him. When the NFL doesn't work out, Urban Meyer will hire him as his eventual successor. Unless he ends up as a televangelist.
McCoy: Charismatic. I would imagine that he has a nice career in business or TV, making use of his sports management major. Also has Tebow-ian reputation in the Texas religious community. Colt McCoy won't be hurting for money anytime soon.
Gerhart: Degree from Stanford: 'nuff said.
Suh: Can't miss NFL superstar, also looks the part for his major: construction management. If NFL doesn't work out, will have no problem supervising and motivating construction workers.
Ingram: Lack of eloquence, jailbird for role model, rattlesnake for head coach. RB's may have shortest "shelf life" of NFL positions. Status as Heisman winner is a nice "fallback" that guarantees plenty of networking opportunities and "work" on the banquet circuit.
So, really, who needed this award the most? My vote definitely goes to Ingram.
I guess congratulations are in order.
You are a piece of shit.
I didn't think his comments were that bad.
Hmm, let's see. Go after Ingram for "lack of eloquence" - as if he's expected to deliver a State of the Union address in the biggest minute of his twenty years -check
Go after Ingram for his incarcerated father -check
Go after Saban because he just rubs you the wrong way - check
Hey Tater, must feel good to know that same in-eloquent kid is beloved by thousands, while only a handful of people ever have and ever will even like you?
Going after a 20 year old kid on the biggest day of his life because his dad is in jail is pretty freaking low.
Yeah he's on the Dean's list while playing for probably the most intense football program in America. Who are you again?
if he played for USC he would have won it by a landslide. Such a joke. I kinda knew that they were going to give it to Ingram when they started with that "No one from Alabama has ever won the Heisman" garbage.
It really didn't surprise me, but it did disappoint me. The Heisman is an award just like the BCS is a Championship game.
Ingram had a great year, but it's his association with the program he is on that won it. Like was said earlier he wasn't even the best RB there.
What is the criteria for the Heisman anymore? Does anyone want to set in stone what this criteria may be?? Obviously no one is following it.
I think it's pretty obvious at this point that you have to be a highlight reel player on a national contender. That's about it.
wish the awards would go out after the bowl season. How many times has the Heisman winner been absolutely flat in the bowl game?? Especially in the case of the Heisman it's pretty much always given to a guy on a highly ranked team. Chances are pretty good they will be playing someone solid so why not include the bowl performance as part of the criteria?
Yeah but that is the point of the Heisman Curse
don't know what the "southwest" is, but i would have expected them to go more for a pac-10 guy than big 12. i guess texas could be southwest. anyway, that looks like where gerhart lost it.
1, Mark Ingram, 238.
2, Toby Gerhart, 219.
3, Colt McCoy, 179.
4, Ndamukong Suh, 104.
5, Tim Tebow, 83.
1, Mark Ingram, 222.
2, Toby Gerhart, 187.
2, Colt McCoy, 187.
4, Ndamukong Suh, 105.
5, Tim Tebow, 57.
1, Mark Ingram, 254.
2, Toby Gerhart, 176.
3, Colt McCoy, 165.
4, Ndamukong Suh, 113.
5, Tim Tebow, 106.
1, Ndamukong Suh, 254.
2, Colt McCoy, 216.
3, Mark Ingram, 214.
4, Toby Gerhart, 180.
5, Tim Tebow, 33.
1, Mark Ingram, 214.
2, Toby Gerhart, 206.
3, Colt McCoy, 173.
4, Ndamukong Suh, 146.
5, Tim Tebow, 45.
1, Toby Gerhart, 319.
2, Colt McCoy, 214.
3, Mark Ingram, 153.
4, Ndamukong Suh, 93.
5, Tim Tebow, 66.
i like the guys at the bottom of this list, but for 42 people to vote for someone to win that didn't make the final 5... that is a little odd.
again, from espn
Player 1st 2nd 3rd Total
Mark Ingram, Alabama 227 236 151 1304
Toby Gerhart, Stanford 222 225 160 1276
Colt McCoy, Texas 203 188 160 1145
Ndamukong Suh, Nebraska 161 105 122 815
Tim Tebow, Florida 43 70 121 390
C.J. Spiller, Clemson 26 31 83 223
Kellen Moore, Boise St. 10 20 30 100
Case Keenum, Houston 2 9 13 37
Mardy Gilyard, Cincinnati 2 2 13 23
Golden Tate, Notre Dame 2 3 9 21
didn't give the award to Mccoy based on his career achievements.
Looking at the numbers break down I'm surprised Tebow even got an invite he was not even close to fourth place.
Had he been voted into 10th place they would have invited him. Anything to get His Tebowness to New York and get eyeballs on the screen.
want to smack Billy Sims? What an annoying ass. We now know how sincere he was when he apologized for trying to upstage Bradford by obnoxiously yelling "Boomer!" He might as well have interrupted Mark Ingram with:
"I'm really happy for you Mark and I'll let you finish, but Ndamukong Suh had one of the best seasons of all time!"
I understand that Billy Sims wants to have some fun, but please, show some class--better yet, take a cue by re-watching Mark Ingram's gracious acceptance speech.