OT: Heat wave
No, it was a joke, Ero. As in: air conditioning? What is that?
I know it is bad for the grid.
......that I help design the grid of which you speak.
Part of me says, "Use your AC judiciously", but the other part says, "Fail, circuits, for I could use the OT"
This America, the land of excess. I'm going home, setting the A/C to 60 and if fails calling up DTE and screaming obscenities in the phone.
It won't be my phone, at least. Besides, I am now at home.
my central air is set at 70, and i still run a window unit all night on high cool 9/9 temp because i want to be able to curl up under the covers even though it's still 80 degrees outside.
no wonder i've had a cold for seemingly weeks.
I think that was the first time I was actually sort of doing my job while on MGoBlog.
I'm not going to begrudge anyone for running their AC when they're indoors right now - but leaving it on when you leave your home (as my neighbors do) is ridiculous. They walk out and lock the door with the AC unit loudly cranking in the background. You can survive a few minutes inside when you come home before it kicks in.
That's the worst thing you could possibly do. Lower your thermostat, sure, but it's even more wasteful to turn it off all day only to need it running full-bore for hours on end to catch back up.
For an entire house, perhaps, but not for a single apartment unit. It does not take long for my unit to kick in.
That makes sense. I'm referring specifically to central air and split systems.
Edit: and it seems that I was wrong, damnit. Hate when that happens.
I'm sorry, but that is simply not true.
Yeah, it makes sense to me that if you leave it off, you're saving energy even if you turn it back on later. Is there some way to confirm this?
Talk to someone who works in the trades.
The total energy removed in a day and the efficiency of the air conditioner. The amount of heat leak into the house is a function of the difference in temperature between inside and outside (the larger the difference the larger the leak). What this means, is that as your house heats up the heat leak into the house will be proportionally less. Therefore, from a total energy perspective you'll have to remove more heat to keep the thermostat at a lower temperature. See example below.
Say you have the thermostat set @ 70F, and the heat leak is 100 W, that means you have to constantly remove 100 W for the duration you're gone (say 5 hrs). So your AC has to remove 500 W-hr in that time period (a unit of energy). Now say you don't remove that heat during that time period, well that 100 W rate is going to drop over the 5 hrs as your house heats up, so that maybe now you only have to remove a total of 400 W-hr to get back to 70F.
Now the only thing that could negate this is efficiency. If your AC was less efficient at the higher temperature, then the two effects could cancel. However, air conditioning efficiency is based on temperature lift with the more lift required, the lower the efficiency. In other words, it actually takes more energy to remove 1W @ 70F than at 80F given a constant outside temperature of say 85F. So in fact, efficiency is also working in your favor. Case closed. And if you need another reference:
Hit with the knowledge, it seems. I was always told (I work with a lot of trades) that AC's run more efficiently if set at a constant temperature. I fail it seems...
But I will check out your link because now I'm really curious.
All of this is true, but the instantaneous strain on the grid could be worse if you wait until your house heats up to 95 degrees.
I would like to see the mold in your walls. Most people forget the other side of the air conditioning equation. The envelope of most homes in humid areas require active (as opposed to passive i.e. opening a window) dehumidification. Even if you don't need the AC for the comfort factor, you probably need it to remove moisture from your house.
Edit: I also live in the south now and its always 100 degrees and 99% humidity so get off my lawn.
I was not trying to assess the implications on grid energy demands, mold, time to cool, or anything else. I have cats and set my a/c to 80F during the day, so there's yet another variable.
You could also have a dehumidifier.
Care to expound? Are you talking from experience, or just talking?
An air conditioner is essentially a giant dehumidifier. Did you ever notice that your air conditioner drains into something? That is the moisture that is being pulled out of your air in your house. Without it, you would increase your chance of mold.
I know this. That's a major reason I leave mine running...
The air conditioner will draw much more current once the house heats up in the afternoon. But then again, the power factor will be better too, so who knows.
this joke isn't funny for hose of us suffering without any
oh well at least I have a pool
If I had a pool, I wouldn't be on the blog. Or can you waterproof a laptop?
maybe not the best idea. I think I must have lost 5 pounds. Still feel warm 4 hours later.
At least we're not shoveling snow.
but check the 10-day forecast...
I prefer shoveling snow to living on Venus.
It's a crisp 92 in South Bend. I tried to take the dogs for a walk... they got as far as the sidewalk before they looked at me as if to say, "yeah, fuck that, buddy," and turned around toward the door.
My malamutes both want the prime spot under the main AC vent. However it is hot and they're way to hot to fight for it. So they just lie there on the floor and kind of half heartedly growl at each other. It is kind of sad. I guess I'll have to take them down the river and let them scare the kayakers a little.
People often forget that most of SE Michigan was once a swamp. Honestly, I look forward to this time of year, you don't have to shovel sunshine off your car.
Yeah, but you can put on more clothes when it's cold. You can't take your skin off when it's 100 degrees out (I guess you wouldn't really want to, but you get the point). Some people can't sit in the a/c all day, or so I hear.
I am suddenly no longer upset about having to stay inside and do homework all day.
Feel your pain bud. I am a contractor and have the privelege of laying tile on an outdoor patio. Shirt was soaked by 9 this morning.
This is why I think that the upper MIdwest has probably the worst weather in the country. You've got nigh unbearable extremes in the winter and summer, and then a short transition period in between them that is also sometimes beset with those extremes. I feel like the summer should be a bigger reward than it is for enduring each miserable winter.
Eh, this summer has been amazing so far aside from this heat wave. And we haven't had a heat wave like this since 2005.
June was wonderful, but July has been pretty bad. When it's in the upper '80s, it's still pretty unpleasant to be outside and do yardwork or go for a walk in the park. At least for me it is. i like to jog outside and I have to get up at 6 in the morning in July to do it.
God don't remind me of 2005. That summer was awful and it lasted until the end of September.
I used to laugh at people who would talk about it being a dry heat, but then I moved to Boise. There really is a difference. Today it was in the high 90's here and I was pretty comfortable for the most part outside. When weather.com said that the temp was 95 here, it also said it feels like 93 (compared to Minneapolis which was 97 and it said felt like 113). The difference in humidity shaves at least 10 degrees from the feel of the weather, and even more in the shade. I don't miss the humidity, but I do miss Michigan football and hockey.
Do you go watch them play on the blue turf?
I do try to get to as many games as I can. The stadium atmosphere is nothing like Michigan, but they are still fun games to watch. BSU's success also makes people think about Idaho for something other than potatoes. There is a lot more here than people think, especially if you like the outdoors.
It is nice when nature decides to allow your perspiration to evaporate!
I don't know.. if I were a lakefront homeowner, I would love this weather.
(said he, who knoweth not about air conditioning).
It was beautiful earlier this monght at my cottage on Lake Michigan. No AC up there so I'm not sure how well later this week would pan out. Hopefully the Alwives are gone otherwise it might be stinky!
We need more lake trout.
I dunno about that. Michigan gets no hurricanes, minimal tornadoes (compared to the plains states), no earthquakes... and it only gets unbearably hot a couple of times a year and unbearably cold a few times a year.
Now, Minnesota? Fuuuuuuuck that.
I'd say the upper Midwest has the best weather in the country. We don't have hurricanes, tropical storms, earthquakes, floods, and we have very few tornadoes. All we have to deal with is a snow in the winter and a few heat waves in the summer. I'd rather have our weather than lose my home to a hurricane or a flood.
Tsunamis, avalanches, mudslides, volcanos. Watch your favorite Discovery channel weather crisis special, and it's probably happening somewhere else.
Yeah, it may be like 10 days (5 in the Spring, 5 in the Fall) that are actually nice, as opposed to say, San Diego. But I'm not worried Michigan is going to be part of the ocean or wiped off the planet because of one bad day.
I thought Michigan summers were uncomfortable until I spent some time in the South in July a couple years ago. That was horrific. This kind of disgustingly hot and sticky weather we experience a few days a year is what they get for 3-4 months straight. And yeah, not having to worry too much about natural disasters is a plus.
After living in the south for a couple years I've really come to appreciate Michigan's weather. Full disclosure though, I'm a meteorologist and "good" weather may not mean the same thing for me as it does to most people.
66 and perfect in Alaska today. Can't say I miss the 100+ days. Be safe.. drink lots of water n alla that.
I hope you can meet Sarah Palin!
In other words, you may have your summer, but just wait until winter. Boo-yah!
I'm in Juneau, (can't see Russia) and we're right on the ocean. After moving here from Detroit, I can happily say that the winters here are WAY better than michigan too.
The only season I really miss is Fall and the color changes.
I honestly like the heat and humidity. It does not bother me at all. I think people who rely too much on the A/C when it's 75-80 degrees are the ones who become immune to changes in temperature. I only use the A/C when it gets above 90 and never use it in my car unless I'm on the highway.
I figure someone will be bitching about how cold it is in winter and how badly they want to move out in about March -- nobody ever is happy so my philosophy is to just enjoy the changes we get here. We literally get every single dose of weather on the planet along with a large unsalted body of water. Not many places have that.
As a degreed weather nerd I can vouch for this statement.
Where from? I may go back to school for meteorology.
although my degree is technically Earth Systems Science and Engineering with a concentration in meteorology. If you want to go that route the degree is offered by the AOSS department in the College of Engineering. I'm working on my masters at Texas Tech right now.
As for switching... might I ask your motivation for switching careers? I say that because it is an incredibly crowded field right now (like a lot of fields), and the outlook doesn't look particularly promising as far as growth is concerned at the moment. If it's something you're passionate about I say go for it, but be prepared for a shitty job market on the other side. Just a bit of advice from someone who's having a hell of a time finding a job at the moment.
Thanks for the insight. Weather has turned more into an obsession than a hobby. I also hate my job.
Glorious landlord here in columbus has taken his sweet ol' time fixing our air conditioning (a simple in-wall unit). We are in a second (top) level apartment and bake under the roof all day. Went to bed at midnight last night with our thermostat reporting a brisk 86 degrees inside the apartment, and it was extremely humid as well. Confirmation columbus is hell.
Luckily our new lease in Dublin starts next week (a full month before this lease expires, but I don't care), so I can soon get away from campus and into some central air!
This little storm is literally a breath of fresh air.
Until the sun comes back out and AA turns into Costa Rica.
Means shorter skirts and more bikini tops. Bring on the heat.
We can see where your mind is at!
Suck it up, get tough and go for a run
just got back from a 2 mile sprint
by the shore of Lake Michigan. Delightful, actually. 9 minutes from cracking a cold Canadian, putting the pure manic hell of work today behind me, and wiggling my toes in the sand.
....like Africa "hot"
if I thought that was the best line of that movie? I was young, but geez, Biloxi Blues was hard to get through...am I just not a Neil Simon kinda guy?
In the Pacific NW, I don't think we had one than a day over 85 all year. And I spent that day in a cave.
Currently in the Middle-East, thought I would be able to come back to some cooler weather this fall; it sounds like it's the same in Ann Arbor as here; hooray for not having A/C in my apartment this year.....
I hate the heat, especially when I have football workouts at 6 in 95 degree weather.
my a/c has not shut off since mid April and I believe we are around 15" behind in rainfall. My 4 day trip to NYC this past weekend was a welcome relief. NYer's were thinking I was crazy walking around in jeans all day. Shit, it was 93 when I landed last night at 11:15 pm back home.
I have relatives in Houston. How the hell did Houston ever get settled? It's hot AND humid, it's right in the path of hurricanes, and while a great town, it's not like it has the lush scenic greenery of say, Florida.
My office is in Belleville, MI, where it was a balmy 94, but the rain cooled it off to about 83, and now that the downpour stopped, it's inching back into the upper 80s.
the temp right now is 81.8 F but the humidity is sitting at 72%. It is on days like this that I remind myself of the weather in Iowa City: 96 F and 52% humidity. That's f*cking terrible. Time for a swim.
Just lost AC for the next couple nights...I guess I'm just lucky to have it (whenever it comes back).
the one day that isn't supposed to have severe thunderstorms will be 99. I guess that's still an upgrade from the tornado warning last year.
How hot is it? Too damned hot to finish this joke.
I'm an RA at a camp right now. Living up on the 3rd floor of West Quad with nothing but one open window and a fan that is way too small. I woke up just covered in sweat today. This sucks.
I feel sorry for you. My freshman year, I was on the 7th floor of bursley and I never once closed my window or turned off my fan all winter. It allowed the room to be somewhat comfortable.
It's always hotter than hell during Art Week. And there is always a violent t-storm as well, which at least cools things off a little bit.
For the next heat wave?
Used to it. This is a normal day back in Texas and i didn't even have a/c in my truck when i lived there.
Haven't had the experiance in a while, though. You will all survive. But don't kill my damn power!!!!
Dallas Texas, It was 109 here on Friday and at 100 or above everyday this month so far. We have not had any rain since June 17th. They say this will be the second hottest summers here since they have been keeping records back in the 1800s! Living here we all know what fucking hot is. We won't cool off till mid Sept. into the 90s that is.
You tend to get more blast furnace type of heat and down here we get a thick swamp soup. October through mid-April is sure nice though.
Everyone here says that, but contrary to popular belief, Dallas is pretty damn humid. We get all of the moisture off of the gulf, and it feels to me like the same humidity as Michigan for the most part, just hotter.
haha, I'm from Dallas (Mesquite actually). Although everyone up here is whining their ass off, it's nothing compared to back home. Today actually felt rather nice! Have fun in Dallas, I'm happy to be here for now.
I'm a MI native currently living in Norman, OK and the OKC area has had 50-some days of above-normal temperatures, and three to more weeks of straight 100+ degree days (some have been 110+). If you want to know what that feels like, it's like putting your face in front of an open oven. My AC is set to 80 and that seems like a relief when compared to what's outside. When we came back to visit relatives in the Detroit area last week, it was breathtakingly fresh feeling. I can handle the heat, but the humidity here is killer.
The heat wave of '80 was the worst I remember. All over the eastern U.S. and south, people were dying from heat-related causes. I was working in Houston during a summer internship and it never got below 98 for the high the entire 3 months I was there. But my advice this week is either or all of these:
1) Avoid the Art Fair in AA.
2) Find a cool basement/lower level (like where I am now)
3) Drink lots of cold beer
4) Head up to Mackinaw - it's always 10 - 12 degree cooler up there than down state
5) Keep reading more about how f-ed up TSIO is and thinking about what the NCAA is going to do to them to take your mind off the heat.
I work outside at a golf course and it was just about unbearable today on the course.
Are many people playing?
Today they had a tournament 46 people but tomorrow they have the tournament and 90 rounds going
Heat index of 115 right now in the twin cities.
There's a pretty good storm on track for Dexter and Chelsea, so it seems.....
Check out this madness going on in Ohio. TheT
Coaches are being encouraged to wear a white shirt and tie during their season openers next month to honor Tressel.
The idea was proposed by Solon coach Jim McQuaide last week when Tressel was inducted into the Ohio High School Football Coaches Association's Hall of Fame. The OHSFCA quickly advanced the recommendation to its more than 750 head coaches.
Tressel was forced to resign last month in the wake of an NCAA investigation, and Ohio State has since vacated all its 2010 victories. The controversy apparently has done little to lessen a strong bond Tressel built with high school coaches during his 26 years at Ohio State and Youngstown State.
Whats your opinion? And what can you do to stop it?
Excuse me my friend ...Heat Wave?
Where I'm at..... our Heat Wave starts with a 1,followed proudly by another 1 and normally ending with a 5..if your lucky. This season we have seen a 1 followed by a 2, ending with a lonely 0. I'll sum it up for you...Heat Wave in Phx 115* 2 weeks ago we enjoyed 120! That my Fellow Wolverines is the type of Heat Wave the "Desert Wolverine" endures. If I may, it's not a good environment for a chocolate buckeye...they simply melt!
Where I'm at, our Heat Wave starts with a phone call, and ends in a delicious Domino's pizza, if you're lucky.
Clearly an OSU grad if that's where your at.
Man who mock poster with improper use of "your" and "you're" is bound to get posterized...
...it's a dry heat.
(Counting on you being too dehydrated to throw anything).
Qualified to carry that badge?
Imagine, you could just point at the thermometer and will it down.
I had football in this shit today. Not fun.
It's been very cold this summer in the Northwest. We've had maybe one day over 75.
I am volunteering at a summer camp right now and only the conference center and dining hall have air conditioning. this is brutal
I'm Finnish. Gimme 10 degrees and snowy over this bullshit any day. Did I mention that I don't have A/C?