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December 26th, 2012 at 9:23 PM | No need to apologize. But a (Score:2 Normal)
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No need to apologize.

But a Packers fan? That, sir, is unspeakable.

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December 26th, 2012 at 9:27 PM | lol I love my Packers (Score:-1 Trolling)
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Both my brother and I growing up loved Favre and Green Bay. The first sweatshirt I ever owned was a Packers sweatshirt lol. Had a Green Bay helmet on it and said TITLETOWN USA GREEN BAY PACKERS.

We hate Michigan State. We don't like Penn State too. We don't care for Minnesota, Wisconsin or Notre Dame but we all hate O-S-U.

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December 26th, 2012 at 10:05 PM | Look.. (Score:4 Normal)
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I have no use for musicals, but you have very right to post this. HOWEVA, when you define a message from a movie or play (ie. entertainment) as more important than 'meaningless' sporting events (ie. entertainment) on one of the most popular sports blogs on the Internet...I gotta call foul.

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December 26th, 2012 at 11:32 PM | It's not culture! (Score:-1 Overrated)
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It's a bubble gum pop movie based on a bubble gum cop musical that bastardized a good novel.  Go to the library FERGODDSAKE

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December 27th, 2012 at 11:52 AM | This movie is meaningless. (Score:0 Offtopic)
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The themes it represents have been expressed over and over and over and over and over and over and....well, you get the point.

 

Les Miserables is a great novel, but if you want to read a book that was truly transformative then I would suggest reading "Uncle Tom's Cabin". It isn't anywhere near Les Miserables in terms of quality of writing, but the impact this book had was much greater than Les Miserable.  It often is cited as being of the sparks that set off the explosion we call the Civil War.

 

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December 26th, 2012 at 9:27 PM | Haven't seen it and probably (Score:2 Normal)
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Haven't seen it and probably won't, but I think it's interesting that it's getting panned by a lot of critics, and yet ordinary moviegoers seem to really like it. I'm not a big fan of musicals, unless they star The Who or The Stones. 

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December 26th, 2012 at 9:32 PM | This might be my favorite (Score:0 Normal)
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This might be my favorite thread, ever, on MGoBlog.

I clicked on it thinking it was a joke.  Then, I opened it and thought, "Wow.  This guy really liked the move."  Then I got to the "I saw this Broadway show a while back..." line and felt that it was actually a very funny and well done bit of sarcasm.  Reading the comments was great until I noticed that the OP was in the thread, defending it.  Holy shit!  It wasn't sarcasm at all; he was serious.  Love it.  Awesome.

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December 26th, 2012 at 9:36 PM | I stopped eating "French Fries" years ago (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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and I refuse to watch or eat anything french because FRANCE SUCKS!

It's tough being Blue in Columbus!!!

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December 26th, 2012 at 9:36 PM | I'm a grown ass man. I love (Score:5 Normal)
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I'm a grown ass man. I love boobs, football, beer, trying to fix shit myself and movies where shit blows up. But I also love all things Les Mis. The book, the countless movies, the play, the soundtracks and especially this cinematic rendition (except for that crappy new song they did). Liking this movie as nothing to do with being manly or not. It's an incredibly powerful story that spawned some of the greatest music ever made regardless if you dig musicals or not (I for the most part do not). For those who enjoy Les Mis but didn't like this movie, ok, I get it. You can at least admit Eponine, Gavroche and Fantine were done incredibly well. And for those who don't like Les Mis, I feel sorry for you. One thing though, despite my enjoyment of the movie, I must ask, why the hell are why talking about this on MGoBlog?

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December 26th, 2012 at 9:38 PM | Go see Django. You will be (Score:4 Normal)
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Go see Django. You will be less miserable. Great movie

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December 26th, 2012 at 10:35 PM | Tarentino has been meh for (Score:3 Normal)
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Tarentino has been meh for over a decade. I haven't seen a movie he directed I fully enjoyed since Pulp. Probably unpopular here, but Kill Bill sucked, and it's a joke he's making a third.

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December 27th, 2012 at 12:47 PM | You didn't enjoy Inglourious (Score:2)
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You didn't enjoy Inglourious Basterds?

I poop excellence
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December 27th, 2012 at 1:20 PM | Basterds was a hideous mess (Score:1 Overrated)
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Basterds was a hideous mess that seemed to have little direction. There's at least thirty minutes of that movie that could be cut, and nothing would be lost of what little integrity the movie had.

It takes more than two good actor performances to make a movie good. Outside of Pitt and the Jew Hunter, they were all horrible.

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December 27th, 2012 at 11:36 PM | A lot of movies need stronger editing (Score:3 Normal)
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But the fact you think Melanie Laurent was horrible discounts pretty much your whole credibility on the film.

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December 27th, 2012 at 11:49 PM | Was going to say the same (Score:3 Normal)
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Was going to say the same thing re: Laurent.

Basterds had some moments that languished. Some for good effect, some not. 30 minutes is pretty hyperbolic, but yeah I don't think it is unreasonable to say 15 minutes could have been cut.

I loved the long bar dialogue scene. And the opening scene was crucial in establishing the main villian. The long dinner scene in the second act was a bit much I thought.

I think leaving too much in is an easy trap for writer/directors to fall into. The project is theirs from conception and they know the minor details better than anyone. Therefore, they want to keep everything because they see each shot as vital. Need a strong partner to say "No, we don't really NEED this."

That said, I think it is pretty weak sauce and snobish to be overly critical of something that is widely accepted as very good.

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December 28th, 2012 at 12:01 AM | I think big name directors have become stars in their own right (Score:2)
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So studios aren't forcing them to edit to "what the audience wants/will sit through" anymore. For the most part that's a good thing. But sometimes it lets a director go unchecked with no checks or balances. I like the amount of time needed to tell the story; but every thought the director had doesn't need to be up there on the screen. If you want to go see a movie this weekend, you better schedule some time-

Hobbit 2 hr 50 min
Django 2 hr 46 min
Les Mis 2 hr 38 min
Lincoln 2 hr 29 min
Skyfall 2 hr 25 min

And that's not counting previews. Now some of those needed every minute and you never looked at your watch. Others could have done without 15 minutes here or there. But when This is 40 and Jack Reacher are over 2 hr 10 min each, there's a problem.

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December 28th, 2012 at 12:06 AM | Am I the only one here... (Score:1)
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who thought Spielberg's cut of Lincoln wasn't very good? The acting was top notch, the script was good, but I thought the end of the final act was completely superfluous, among a few other minor complaints for time/conciseness.

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December 26th, 2012 at 9:39 PM | F the French (Score:-1 Trolling)
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It's tough being Blue in Columbus!!!

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December 26th, 2012 at 9:43 PM | Les Miserables - go see it (Score:1 Normal)
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Les Miserables is my most favorite musical ever and it's not close. I have seen it 5 times and honestly the very best was at the Fischer Theatre in Detroit.



The movie is significantly different than the stage but undoubtedly good. I thoroughly enjoyed.

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December 26th, 2012 at 9:47 PM | Threads like these are why I (Score:3 Normal)
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Threads like these are why I cannot WAIT for Brian to restore the old up/down voting as promised.  Not because I want the OP to get cratered but because these are exacatly the type of threads that are impossible to moderate.  Do you take it down?  Not if people are interested in the topic.  But with the old system in place the people could decide if this was something worth posting and discussing.  And the OP would reap the points benefits or pay the the price depending on how the topic was recieved.

 

 

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December 26th, 2012 at 10:10 PM | Or! (Score:-1 Normal)
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People can be adults and just ignore threads they think are dumb or not something they are into and let the people who like it discuss the topic.



The issue is every asshole thinks they have a witty comment that needs to be posted. Topics that are bad will die off and drop. Making a dumb post to day the thread sucks only keeps the thread going.

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December 26th, 2012 at 10:30 PM | There are no adults on the (Score:4 Normal)
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There are no adults on the interwebz.

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December 26th, 2012 at 9:48 PM | I have a real hard time (Score:2 Trolling)
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being able to sit through a musical. I find them annoying as hell, I hate when someone breaks out into a song every other minute, I like dialogue. I probably will see it on Blu-Ray or netflix, we'll see.

Also, I loved the Liam Neeson version, that was a great flick, it just seems so soon to make another one.

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December 26th, 2012 at 9:55 PM | OP: No. (Score:4 Normal)
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OP: No.

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December 26th, 2012 at 9:57 PM | Again with the hyperbole. I (Score:3 Normal)
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Again with the hyperbole. I mean, you got ripped the other day for starting a thread with hyperbole and you do the same thing here. Did you not learn anything?

I honestly don't have a problem with you starting a thread about Les Mis. I do have a problem with you pulling the same shit you have in the past that people have brought up in those threads. Not all criticism is personal. You can learn a lot from it and become a better poster.

Avatar is a reference to this. Go Blue!

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December 26th, 2012 at 9:58 PM | All type of fans and MgoBloggers (Score:2 Normal)
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I'm sure this will likely get me all negged to hell but reading many of these comments on here is pretty disheartening. It's already hard to read the majority of posts here as something always comes back to masculinity or lack there of. Just taking a moment to remind you all that there are many types of loyal Michigan grads / fans that don't fit the mold. Many of these comments on this thread are the reason why many young people can't get out of the state of Michigan fast enough! Just saying...we all love big Blue and should respect our differences

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December 26th, 2012 at 10:02 PM | Obviously mostly agree with your point (Score:2)
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But what makes you think the posters saying what you object to are from the State of Michigan? They could be from anywhere.

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December 26th, 2012 at 10:25 PM | Fair point (Score:1 Normal)
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That's a fair point....I really should have looked at their locals before making that connection. Simply trying to make the point that these types of "opinions" are a big part of why the population of Michigan is dwindling so quickly. Hell, half my friends in Chicago are from Michigan but I met them here!

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December 26th, 2012 at 10:34 PM | People have been going from the University of Michigan (Score:2)
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To Chicago for a long, long time. It's not anything new due to any "climate."

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December 26th, 2012 at 10:39 PM | Agreed (Score:1 Normal)
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Agreed but you don't have to do much searching to find that young people are leaving the state of Michigan at record numbers. I'm merely bringing up that, in my opinion, some of that migration has to do with the political / social climate in Michigan the past 10 years. It's changed since I left in 02', that's for sure.

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December 26th, 2012 at 10:45 PM | I'm sure that's a part of it. (Score:3 Normal)
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The bigger part of it is jobs and money. People put up with all sorts of social climates if the economy is there.

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December 27th, 2012 at 2:30 AM | Not the bigger part, this is (Score:1 Overrated)
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Not the bigger part, this is the only part. 

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December 27th, 2012 at 12:53 AM | Completely agree. I know (Score:3 Normal)
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Completely agree. I know several people in academic science who left Michigan because of women and GLBT rights. 

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December 26th, 2012 at 10:45 PM | I personally find the staunch (Score:5 Normal)
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I personally find the staunch anti-Les Miserables contingent within our fair state to be one of its' major selling points...



In all seriousness, I'm fairly certain Michigan's completely shite economy is the reason young people are leaving en masse, not the cultural retardation you seem to imbue every one of its remaining citizens with...but thanks for playing.



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December 26th, 2012 at 10:02 PM | You must be confused.  This (Score:5 Normal)
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You must be confused.  This is not a Kentucky Basketball blog nor a New York Giants blog.

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December 26th, 2012 at 10:08 PM | The OP... (Score:2 Normal)
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Has every right to post this. Every poster also has the right to share their opinion. I don't get the uproar.

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December 27th, 2012 at 12:00 PM | What a remarkably stupid statement. (Score:-1 Overrated)
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Firstly, people are leaving for want of jobs, not because of a lack of passon for musicals.

 

Secondly, people everywhere do not appreciate music. It is a class thing. Yes, there are people in every class who do or do not appreciate musicals, but for the most part people who enjoy musicals belong to the genteel class who work with their brains and not their brawn. (This is why the 1% vs 99% paradigm fails in sociological terms. The cultural differences among Americans who make $40,000 and $100,000 is significant.)

 

Thirdly, you need to leave your bubble and interact with the ho polloi more. Your statement reads like a bourgeois white man commenting on inner city blacks: Everyone painted with a fan brush, nothing with a round brush.

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December 27th, 2012 at 1:48 PM | Blacks? (Score:0 Offtopic)
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You sir are correct, not very cultured indeed

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December 27th, 2012 at 1:53 PM | So (Score:2)
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So you're not a rascist.  You're a classist.  Got it.

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December 26th, 2012 at 10:08 PM | I don't understand why such a (Score:2 Interesting)
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I don't understand why such a big focus of the movie's promotion is that they recorded the vocals live on set, rather than separately in a studio. People that have seen it: can you really pick up on the creative freedom that this method apparently offers the actors? Just curious, as they have really highlighted this in the trailers I've seen.

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December 26th, 2012 at 10:22 PM | Interesting question. (Score:1 Interesting)
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I'd say the sound comes off as recorded, so that's not something the audience notices. It's a bit more spoken word singing, rather than song singing at times. So it's less musical, but more acted.

I think the difference is it's more like a film for the actors, so when they're in the scene they're emotionally in the moment which might hurt the singing but helps the acting. I don't think Anne Hathaway gave the best vocal performance I've ever heard of "I Dreamed a Dresm" by any shot, but it was certainly the most heart-wrenching version I've heard.

But I'm not sure how familiar you have to be with musicals, or musicals to movies, to notice any difference.

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December 26th, 2012 at 10:50 PM | How about them Pistons? (Score:2 Normal)
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lol

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December 26th, 2012 at 10:48 PM | there is a trade off (Score:3 Normal)
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AH's ad lib performance is heart wrenching and there aren't dry eyes in the house, which is not the case in the musical. On the other hand while Jackman is very good, he is not Colm Wilkinson (nobody is). I was only  "mildly disapponted" in Jackman's preformance of Bring Him Home which is my top musical song of all time  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsYnhVITf9E.

Bottom line Hooper sacrifices some (not much) sound quality for live acting and emotion that he hopes connects audiences more than in the musical.

btw I am more ashamed that I watching the Motor City Little Ceasar's Bowl too

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December 26th, 2012 at 10:52 PM | You have to think then (Score:1 Normal)
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That was one of the best cameos ever.

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December 27th, 2012 at 11:53 AM | J. Mark McVey - (Score:1)
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In my opinion J. Mark McVey can be as much Jean Val Jean as Wilkinson has been. McVey has logged over 2,000 appearances as JVJ on and off Broadway. Of course Wilkinson was the great cameo in the movie. Also, the guy from under the cart was Thenardier on Broadway for a while.

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December 26th, 2012 at 10:08 PM | Don't be Ohio cavemen, fergodssakes! (Score:4 Normal)
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Les Mis is very good movie, a great broadway show, and a classic book. This has been a great year for films. The Dark Night Rises and Argo were very good films. Lincoln is a must see for you and your kids. Zero Dark 30 is another must see (dont take kids) and my dark horse this year is Life of Pi (3d) directed by the brilliant Ang Lee. It takes time to figure this film out.

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December 26th, 2012 at 10:15 PM | Skyfall... (Score:3 Normal)
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also completely transcended what most people come to expect from a Bond movie. Sam Mendes signing on long term with the franchise would be some very welcome news out of Hollywood.

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December 26th, 2012 at 10:30 PM | Yeah, I was all for an open thread for that (Score:2 Normal)
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If it didn't fall in the heart of the season.

I'd add the Avengers, which didn't have the emotional heft of others, but was just about as well as you can do a popcorn movie for fun, entertainment, humor, and caring about characters while balancing not only the characters, but actors. And as the cumulation of many movies in a style never before done on film, it was no easy task.

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December 26th, 2012 at 10:49 PM | I do not like the "new" James (Score:-1 Overrated)
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I do not like the "new" James Bond.  Agent 007 is not some muscle-bound behemouth who looks as though he has been bashed in the face a few too many times.  Bond is suave and mature, intelligent and daring... this new character could be interchanged for any superficial action character.  Connery was by the far the best, though Pierce Brosnan played Bond well.

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December 26th, 2012 at 10:59 PM | Interesting pairing. (Score:5 Normal)
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On the "rough around the edges" to the "probably enjoys musicals" (see what I did there) scale, it's probably go-

Daniel Craig
Sean Connery
George Lazenby
Timothy Dalton
Pierce Brosnan
Roger Moore

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