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June 9th, 2013 at 11:32 PM
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plot device

character development for Stannis.

Basically you have the Red Woman and Davos workign almost as an angel and a devil on his shoulders.  The importance of Gendry is that he represents a conflict for Stannis and helps to juxtapose the different kings.

I actually like this alteration as well.   Look at Tywin stating that killing 12 men is better than a thousand while Davos is screaming that saving one innocent person is worth risking thousands of others...

Stannis on the show is much better than stannis in the book and he is growing on me... Davos is building up to Bronn like status (Bronn being by far the coolest minor character in ASOIAF)

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June 9th, 2013 at 11:43 PM
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Davos.

I don't think the comparison of Davos to Bronn is a good one. Bronn is a minor character while Davos is a major one (he gets a POV, he is Hand of the King, has an important arc, etc). The characters are also as different as can be (Davos is probably the most moral character and Bronn is an amoral sellsword).

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June 10th, 2013 at 1:08 AM
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Jdon, I want to upvote every

Jdon, I want to upvote every post of yours until I get to the end and your name is signed. Help me help you. 

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June 10th, 2013 at 8:48 AM
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lol

let me see what I can do...

It's gonna take a concerted effort...

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June 9th, 2013 at 11:40 PM
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Edric Storm.

He took the place of Edric Storm. The point was to show that Stannis is brutal and will burn anyone with king's blood as a sacrifice to R'hllor.

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June 10th, 2013 at 8:52 AM
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IDK

I think the point isn't so much that Stannis is brutal as he is pragmatic.   

Also, it is a great question to ask your readers to ponder:  Is one innocent life worth killing to protect countless others?   

Both sides can argue with complete support of logic and the side you take says a lot about how you view the world we live in...

 

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June 10th, 2013 at 9:04 AM
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That is a great question to

That is a great question to ask. I think when you pair it with the conversation between Cersei and Tyrion, you get your answer. One innocent life to kill your enemies, but for every enemy you kill you, two more enemies arise. So, now you are talking about two innocent lives on top of the one you've already spent against the thousand. It's never just one innocent life. Not really spelled out for the audience, but it is a connection that I just made, which is pretty deep.

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June 10th, 2013 at 1:16 PM
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So the question is

Do the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one?

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June 9th, 2013 at 11:42 PM
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Why is the stark with hordoor

Why is the stark with hordoor going beyond the wall?

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June 9th, 2013 at 11:44 PM
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Bran.

Bran must go beyond the wall to find the three-eyed raven that Jojen has been talking about.

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June 9th, 2013 at 11:52 PM
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Interesting, Bran seems to be

Interesting, Bran seems to be going away from action, which could be bad for him, looks like we will see him try to control minds of white walkers

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June 10th, 2013 at 12:02 AM
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Actually, Bran's going toward

Actually, Bran's going toward the action.  The show has gotten away from it a bit, but there's Mance and all the wildlings making for the wall (Jon, Ygritte & co were the scouting party).  And you also have the White Walkers and their army of the dead.  Winter is coming.

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June 10th, 2013 at 12:14 AM
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Bran's leaving the frying pan

Bran's leaving the frying pan and jumping head first into the fire.

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June 10th, 2013 at 4:13 PM
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Bran is quite literally doing

Bran is quite literally doing the exact opposite of that.

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June 10th, 2013 at 5:02 PM
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Just curious, did you watch

Just curious, did you watch last night's episode? Do you remember that scene with Sam and Bran where Sam was all like "WTF?!?! WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO GO NORTH OF THE WALL?!?!?!"? I believe that may have been a hint as to what was coming for Bran. Just FYI.

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June 10th, 2013 at 5:08 PM
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From EW: 'Game of Thrones'

From EW: 'Game of Thrones' team on series future: 'There is a ticking clock'

Of greater concern is the pace of the books vs. seasons. It's an issue that fans pointed out from the moment the show was greenlit and now even HBO is beginning to realize there could be an issue. Book 5 took Martin six years to write and it was released in 2011. "I finally understand fans' fear - which I didn't a couple years ago: What if the storytelling catches up to the books?," says HBO programming president Michael Lombardo. "Let's all hope and pray that's not going to be a problem."

Martin, for one, isn't worried. The way the author sees it, producers have plenty of material to keep Thrones rolling. "I think the odds against that happening are very long," Martin says when asked about the show catching up to his novels. "I still have a lead of several gigantic books. I fthey include everything in the books, I don't think they're going to catch up with me. If they do, we'll have some interesting discussions."

Hmm, I wonder if that quote from Martin was current.  Or he doesn't understand the meaning of "several."  Still, he wouldn't be happy if the show caught up, so hopefully that's incentive to get cracking on finishing books.

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