OT- Game of Thrones S04E08 @ 9:00 PM: The Mountain and the Viper
In this corner we have the 6'8"(?) behemoth who impales people on his sword. This ruthless man put his own little brothers face to the fire. The one and only Mountain! In this corner we have the 5'11"(?) Dornish warrior and seeker of vengeance. This man loves sex almost as much as he likes killing Lannisters. The one and only Prince Obeyren! Let's get it on!!!!
Do you know why all the world hates a Lannister?
Have to say, though, that as soon as Martell started gloating at the end, I knew he was a dead man. I mean, why would this show ever allow justice to be served? Still tough seeing Cersei with that shit-eating grin on her face.
I can't get over Littlefinger's "They die squatting over their chamber pots" line. I started laughing like Muttley when he said that. That's brilliant. Let's see if this is relavant to next week.
I honestly have a hard time viewing them doing season 4 any better thus far, it's lived up to all the hype I had established for it going in and then some. The Viper v. Mountain fight was excellent to see, you can tell Pedro Pascal (Oberyn) really put in a lot of training to learn to fight. I honestly hope this is somewhat of a breakout role for him and he pops up in more TV/Movies.
From his recent Reddit AMA:
Whereas I will be super pissed if what I think they're doing to Brienne's arc is what they're doing to it, because they'll have missed the whole point of GRRM's best writing. If there's no Septon Meribald I will be so sad.
We may have some clues as to how they will deviate on some storylines. I'm honestly glad that for all the "hate" that the writers got after last week not keeping one line the same as the books, they absolutely did the fight justice in just about every sense.
I think part of what makes that scene and his death so tragic is how much everyone wants him to live. I think it makes more of a difference than you apparently, but I can't say more, maybe we should start up a "spoilers allowed" thread for this kind of OT discussion.
Theres a lot of great characters missing, I still cant get over Strong Belwas being absent.
I don't think the idea is to have Septon Meribald for Septon Meribald's sake. At least not for me. If we don't have Septon Meribald then it's likely they won't answer a particular question about a certain hooded character. The show can answer the question immediately for the same reason the show couldn't have "Arstan Whitebeard" and I'm hoping they do it.
(I hope this is vague enough not to spoil anything but enough to let book readers pick up what I'm putting down.)
Tour de Force. Simply put, 10/10.
I'm with you on that, although my expectations for the episode were probably too high as well.
Wow. I can't believe you said all of these things.
Especially the Orson Lannister thing - it was freaking hilarious and amazingly acted by Dinklage (for this third week in a row of amazing performances in the dungeon - aka the Anti-Ned Stark).
The dumbest part of the show by far was the grey worm stuff at the beginning. Very unnecessary side story
I can think of a few things that were necessary about that side story.
LOL - Oberyn thinks that's an understatement!
Why can't he let us have anything nice?
I think the Mountain died right after killing Obeyren.
The Mountain - he dead
During his whole, 'you raped my sister' speech, I kept hearing Inigo Montoya, "now prepare to die." That detracted from the scene for me, but when his head got popped like Phil Leotardo's, I was like, DAMN! that's some good television.
But Tyrion, we learn, wasn’t satisfied. Though he was born to a powerful family, he couldn’t help but empathize with the littler creatures. And so his interest in his cousin morphed from mockery to curiosity to something bordering on obsession. What was the reason for this constant extermination? It was inconceivable to Tyrion that butchery on Orson’s scale could simply be the way of the world. A life was a life, whether it was protected by a suit of armor or a carapace. Surely, it deserved better. If that wasn’t possible, then at least it deserved an explanation. What, after all, was the point?
The bells rang out and the drama resumed before Tyrion could get his answer. But I think Game of Thrones showrunners David Benioff and D.B. Weiss got their meaning across just the same. Life in Westeros is brutish and short. (Littlefinger’s fatherly exhortation that “everybody dies sooner or later” was actually one of the more cheerful moments in the entire episode.) No matter what you do, bugs are going to get smashed. It’ll happen if you ascribe motive or, like Jaime, refuse to give a dusty fuck. It’ll happen if you try to intervene in empathy or walk away in disgust. It’ll happen if you call it justice or scream bloody murder. Orson is above it all. The garden belongs to him. Kung. Kung. Kung.
http://grantland.com/hollywood-prospectus/game-of-thrones-recap-the-rum…
Andy Greenwald's recap, as always, is great. I'm on board with his interpretation.
Surely the IMP must live...please do not kill off my favorite carachter.
I just rewatched the show and I think, and I have been trending this way for a while, that the show has surpassed the book.
In particular the 'merrenese knot'. AFFC was a terrible book and the show has skipped right past the inconsequential points. To address septon merribold, he need not be on the show because D&D can show the desolation of the war of the five kings without a speech; visually HBO has allowed the editors and producers to make an a amzing show.