OT- Game of Thrones S04E05: First of His Name
the Lannisters always pay their debts!
At this point why even go? You've conquered city after city and they have all been beautiful, magnificent cities and the vast majority of the people love you for freeing them from slavery. Westeros looks like a giant, heaping, unecessarily complicated pile of dog crap compared to where she is now, why even go back?
Is anyone else a little annoyed that Tommen got magically growed up and now is several years older than A) he was not that long ago and B) he is in the books? Tommen is supposed to be incredibly tractable, which is not that believable for someone of his current age. So far, I get the impression that the only reason they did it is to create the impression that he and Margaery might actually have sex.
have only a meh correspondence with the book.
Most such changes being largely for the reason in the last sentence.
Not really true. Casting older applies to practically all Hollywood productions, not just overtly sexual shows like Game of Thrones. It's more for acting reasons than anything else. Younger actors are less polished and it's much easier to play an age you've already lived through then play someone of an older age. On another note. Great Epsiode. Game of Thrones is excellent every week.
Well, that's certainly true, and it's honestly something that's a major pet peeve of mine, which probably means the answer to my original question is "yes, I'm the only one bothered by it." I've always found it difficult to buy a 25-year-old playing someone of high-school age - or a high-school-age actor playing a middle-school-age part, even if someone of the actual age would be "less polished." It never looks right.
i guess i was just confused why this isolated incident would bother you when the age of every other child in the show is off.
Makes sense you'd ask. Partly because the rest of them started that way, partly it's related in the manifesto I spit out below, and partly because the adventures had by Jon, Robb, Dany, and Bran are more believable at their show ages. Even GRRM originally planned on a five-year gap in the story after Storm of Swords, so the stuff Dany and Arya et al. were doing would be more plausible having grown up a bit.
First, all of the other characters are aging faster in the show. He needs to age at the same rate. I believe he was supposed to be 8 at the start of the show (6 in the books, but all kids got bumped up a year or two), so, assuming that the chronology of events is spaced out evenly with the seasons (based on the other kids aging at that rate), he should be around 12 this season.
Second, if you think the backlash after the rape scene was bad, wait until they hint at a 12-year-old, let alone an 8-year-old, getting married and potentially having sex with what basically amounts to an adult woman. I don't think that they are going to touch that one with a ten-foot pole.
Basically, I'm fine with how they are handling the child actors getting older. Unless they plan on changing out the actors every season to keep them young, there's not a whole lot that they can do.
If they were afraid of people assuming Tommen and Margaery getting married must necessarily mean the marriage is consummated, I can sort of see it.
That said, I think it would be awfully easy to make clear that the marriage is for political expediency and that Tommen isn't sleeping even in the same room as Margaery, and have her charm him in other ways besides secret bedtime visits. Like the kittens. I mean, if they hadn't changed actors, it doesn't mean they would've had to keep last week's scene the same.
Obviously I'm making a mountain out of a molehill and it's nothing remotely like a big deal... just kind of casting a sideways glance at what looks kind of like a cheap way to extract more sexual tension juices out of the show. I would've been fine with seeing the original Tommen age the same way the other child actors did. Maybe I just liked Tommen better as a tractable but plucky little fellow who likes kittens and playing with the royal stamp (an amusingly useful trait) than as a guy with Future Wimp stamped on his forehead.
Speaking of tv characters that underwent accelerated aging... the kid who played Nicky Banks on the Fresh Prince is now 25 and looks like this:
...I'm getting too old.
Hodor would have a hard time qualifying. From an academic standpoint, Hodor is SEC material.
Heck yeah, that guy has some serious stength!!!! So glad he snapped Locke's neck, couldn't stand that dude. Another really really good episode. Besides Person of Interest and Hannibal, this is easily one of my favorite shows on tv.
episode 9 is gonna be insane!
I would say episode 4 was the low point of the season. From here on out, I think it's going to keep climbing on the "HOLY SHIT" scale.
4X09 The Watchers on the Wall
4X10 The Children
So, for book readers it's !!!!!! And for non-bookies, the directors said there would be a battle scene this season that will be better than the Battle of Blackwater in 2X09. I think we have a hell of a back 9 ahead of us. Valar Margulis