OT- Game of Thrones S04E05: First of His Name

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There is a lot going on. Dany is turning her eyes toward Westeros. Some Starks might reunite when the Crows attack Craster's keep. Jon watch out for snakes in the grass. The king is dead. Long live the king. Please no book spoilers. Enjoy!

 

We Do Not Sow

Pit2047

May 6th, 2014 at 1:44 AM ^

At this point why even go?  You've conquered city after city and they have all been beautiful, magnificent cities and the vast majority of the people love you for freeing them from slavery.  Westeros looks like a giant, heaping, unecessarily complicated pile of dog crap compared to where she is now, why even go back?

michiganfanforlife

May 4th, 2014 at 11:39 PM ^

I feel sorry for Sansa and all the weirdos she gets set up with. Having Baelish for a stepdad would be creepy... Arya continues to be my favorite. John Snow was in over his head and got lucky. Hodor ripped himself up a spy. Tommen probably won't live very long. I'm looking forward to the trial...

MaizeAndBlueWahoo

May 5th, 2014 at 10:06 AM ^

Is anyone else a little annoyed that Tommen got magically growed up and now is several years older than A) he was not that long ago and B) he is in the books?  Tommen is supposed to be incredibly tractable, which is not that believable for someone of his current age.  So far, I get the impression that the only reason they did it is to create the impression that he and Margaery might actually have sex.

JDevine11

May 5th, 2014 at 11:02 AM ^

Not really true. Casting older applies to practically all Hollywood productions, not just overtly sexual shows like Game of Thrones. It's more for acting reasons than anything else. Younger actors are less polished and it's much easier to play an age you've already lived through then play someone of an older age. On another note. Great Epsiode. Game of Thrones is excellent every week. 

MaizeAndBlueWahoo

May 5th, 2014 at 11:49 AM ^

Well, that's certainly true, and it's honestly something that's a major pet peeve of mine, which probably means the answer to my original question is "yes, I'm the only one bothered by it."  I've always found it difficult to buy a 25-year-old playing someone of high-school age - or a high-school-age actor playing a middle-school-age part, even if someone of the actual age would be "less polished."  It never looks right.

MaizeAndBlueWahoo

May 5th, 2014 at 7:35 PM ^

Makes sense you'd ask.  Partly because the rest of them started that way, partly it's related in the manifesto I spit out below, and partly because the adventures had by Jon, Robb, Dany, and Bran are more believable at their show ages.  Even GRRM originally planned on a five-year gap in the story after Storm of Swords, so the stuff Dany and Arya et al. were doing would be more plausible having grown up a bit.

joeyb

May 5th, 2014 at 1:47 PM ^

First, all of the other characters are aging faster in the show. He needs to age at the same rate. I believe he was supposed to be 8 at the start of the show (6 in the books, but all kids got bumped up a year or two), so, assuming that the chronology of events is spaced out evenly with the seasons (based on the other kids aging at that rate), he should be around 12 this season.

Second, if you think the backlash after the rape scene was bad, wait until they hint at a 12-year-old, let alone an 8-year-old, getting married and potentially having sex with what basically amounts to an adult woman. I don't think that they are going to touch that one with a ten-foot pole.

Basically, I'm fine with how they are handling the child actors getting older. Unless they plan on changing out the actors every season to keep them young, there's not a whole lot that they can do.

MaizeAndBlueWahoo

May 5th, 2014 at 3:09 PM ^

If they were afraid of people assuming Tommen and Margaery getting married must necessarily mean the marriage is consummated, I can sort of see it.

That said, I think it would be awfully easy to make clear that the marriage is for political expediency and that Tommen isn't sleeping even in the same room as Margaery, and have her charm him in other ways besides secret bedtime visits.  Like the kittens.  I mean, if they hadn't changed actors, it doesn't mean they would've had to keep last week's scene the same.

Obviously I'm making a mountain out of a molehill and it's nothing remotely like a big deal... just kind of casting a sideways glance at what looks kind of like a cheap way to extract more sexual tension juices out of the show.  I would've been fine with seeing the original Tommen age the same way the other child actors did.  Maybe I just liked Tommen better as a tractable but plucky little fellow who likes kittens and playing with the royal stamp (an amusingly useful trait) than as a guy with Future Wimp stamped on his forehead.

Shakey Jake

May 5th, 2014 at 10:17 AM ^

But only if Bran controls him from the sidelines, otherwise he'll be innefective. But what I don't get is why it's taking the hound so long to ARya back. THey are lagging on that story line and it's out of sync with everything else going on. And the series as strayed away from showing boobs. We need more boobs!

gmoney41

May 5th, 2014 at 11:00 AM ^

Heck yeah, that guy has some serious stength!!!!  So glad he snapped Locke's neck, couldn't stand that dude.  Another really really good episode.  Besides Person of Interest and Hannibal, this is easily one of my favorite shows on tv.

Skiptoomylou22

May 5th, 2014 at 9:01 PM ^

4X08 The Mountain and the Viper
4X09 The Watchers on the Wall
4X10 The Children

So, for book readers it's !!!!!! And for non-bookies, the directors said there would be a battle scene this season that will be better than the Battle of Blackwater in 2X09. I think we have a hell of a back 9 ahead of us. Valar Margulis