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OT: Four kids from Monroe County high school taken to jail for food fight

http://news.yahoo.com/video/detroitwxyz-20910802/teens-charged-in-food-f...

My opinion may be skewed since I'm still in high school (senior), but this is just horseshit. Man am I glad to be done with high school this year.

"Ohio is like a giant turd that Michigan just can't pinch off"

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April 1st, 2012 at 7:56 PM | I don't know what happened (Score:5 Normal)
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I don't know what happened and what damage was done, but this seems like punishment that has gone too far. Make the kids and their families pay for any damages that may have occurred due to this, and make them perform community service at the school. This, IMO, is just a lack of leadership from a principle who apparenlty can't teach a lesson, and who is relying on a judicial system to send the message for him. This is not the place for high school discipline where no one got hurt.

 

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April 1st, 2012 at 7:56 PM | this is truly a mad world in which we live... (Score:2 Normal)
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If it was my son or daughter I am not sure I would let the cops lock them up...  This is ridiculous

 

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April 1st, 2012 at 8:00 PM | How would you stop them? (Score:5 Funny)
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How would you stop them?

I put up a tough front, but deep down I just want to be held.

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April 1st, 2012 at 8:11 PM | good question... (Score:1)
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It depends on if I could...  I certainly wouldn't go down without fighting if I was at the school when they called.... and by down fighting I mean running away and hiding.  lol.

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April 2nd, 2012 at 6:32 AM | That's the neat thing about (Score:3 Normal)
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That's the neat thing about police - they don't give a damn what kids' parents think.  And it's a good thing, too, because most parents think their kids are totally innocent.

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April 2nd, 2012 at 8:48 AM | no, but they definitely care what the bourgeois think... (Score:1)
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Don't think for a second that who the kids are didn't play some part in this...  Someone had to decide who gets arrested and who gets suspended...

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April 2nd, 2012 at 12:03 PM | As a teacher, I cosign this (Score:3 Normal)
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As a teacher, I cosign this so hard.

For today, goodbye. For tomorrow, good luck. And forever, Go Blue.

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April 1st, 2012 at 7:58 PM | Wow (Score:1)
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My alma mater at it's finest.

uh....whatever

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April 1st, 2012 at 8:01 PM | Huron Leaguer myself here. We (Score:4 Normal)
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Huron Leaguer myself here. We always teased Jefferson kids about stuff like this, but there's no way they deserved to go to jail. It seems like the world's getting soft. A school has to bring in the police to deal with a food fight? Please. 

"I'm the guy who does his job. You must be the other guy."

 

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April 1st, 2012 at 8:09 PM | Oops (Score:1)
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I suppose I should have actually read the article first, I assumed they were students from Monroe High my alma mater. Still pretty messed up they got arrested just glad it wasn't MHS.

uh....whatever

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April 2nd, 2012 at 2:41 AM | MHS? (Score:1)
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I'm an 08 grad, I'm sure if you know me you can figure it out by my username. When did you graduate? I don't see the police being brought in for something like this at our school though. 

Wolverine living amongst the enemy. 

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April 2nd, 2012 at 11:56 AM | Dude I know you. And I owe (Score:2)
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Dude I know you. And I owe you for my late love of Sufjan Stevens (I think you posted a video on FB). 

"I'm the guy who does his job. You must be the other guy."

 

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April 1st, 2012 at 10:23 PM | JHS (Score:3 Normal)
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I'm an alumn if JHS and know the actual details of the events that occurred that day. The punishment would not have been as severe as it was if the kids involved knew when to shut up and not give the police a hard time.

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April 1st, 2012 at 8:06 PM | How about just make them (Score:3 Normal)
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How about just make them clean up the mess.  Jail for this is just asinine.

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April 1st, 2012 at 8:10 PM | A few years back, my brother, (Score:5 Normal)
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A few years back, my brother, a senior in high school at the time, was walking near the school with his friend and decided to walk on the unlocked football field. They were laying on the field reminiscing about the four years they'd played upon it, when a couple cops came responding to the silent alarm the kids didn't realize they'd set off. With in a few minutes the police had them pinned face down and even went so far as to point guns in their faces.



Despite the fact they were honor students, played for the school, and hadn't intended any harm, and apologized profusely, the prosecutor planned to file charges against them. This was because it was an election year and he rally wanted to look "tough on crime."



It took the intercession of the super intendant whom my brother had a good relationship with (because of extra curriculars and because my brother won a national essay contest) and an entire summer of community service for them not to have have records tarnished and it taught my brother, who intended to go into politics at the time, that politicians don't care about right and wrong and who they hurt if it makes them look better.



I find it amazing how often adults fail to treat high school kids like people.

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April 2nd, 2012 at 6:33 AM | A good example of how law (Score:0 Flamebait)
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A good example of how law enforcement is out of control in this country.   And people think that the reason we have so many people in jail is because we have "lots of criminals".

You live in the land of the free, right?  Not if the prosecutor thinks he can hammer you.

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April 1st, 2012 at 8:11 PM | State is broke.. Need those (Score:2 Normal)
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State is broke.. Need those pseudo taxes the court system injects.

Its called a royale with cheese

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April 1st, 2012 at 8:12 PM | Stripes make them look thin (Score:2 Normal)
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Stripes make them look thin or are those their school uniforms?

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April 1st, 2012 at 8:12 PM | Classic Jefferson, should (Score:1)
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Classic Jefferson, should have been a Trojan.

In all seriousness though, this is ridiculous.  Let's put a permanent mark on these kids' records and possibly ruin their lives because they tossed some lunch meat around the cafeteria. 

 

 

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April 1st, 2012 at 8:24 PM | Monroe, Jefferson... ha (Score:2 Normal)
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Monroe, Jefferson... ha should have been a falcon

And when we play as a team, when the old season is over, you and I know, it's gonna be Michigan again, Michigan

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April 1st, 2012 at 8:47 PM | Screw that...be a (Score:2 Normal)
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Screw that...be a BLUESTREAK....JJ...I hated that school!

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April 1st, 2012 at 9:16 PM | Mason Eagle here, but I (Score:2 Normal)
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Mason Eagle here, but I coached 3 years of Freshman basketball and 3 years of track at SMCC.  

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April 1st, 2012 at 9:19 PM | What years? I ran track from (Score:2)
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What years? I ran track from 05-07

"I'm the guy who does his job. You must be the other guy."

 

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April 1st, 2012 at 10:22 PM | 01-04 (Score:1)
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I coached High Jumpers from 02-04.  I coached Freshman hoops with my best friend, the late Lance Keiffer from 00-03. I'm sure you probably knew at least who Lance was.

My cousin is Ryan Upchurch. If you know who he is. 

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April 2nd, 2012 at 12:08 PM | Ahh I missed you then. My (Score:2)
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Ahh I missed you then. My sister dated Allen for a little bit and I played football with Dakota for a few years and still see him around my neighborhood occasionally. Great guys. Ryan was a pretty decent football/basketball player right? I definitely know the name. 

"I'm the guy who does his job. You must be the other guy."

 

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April 1st, 2012 at 9:30 PM | small world...great area to (Score:1)
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small world...great area to grow up in.

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April 1st, 2012 at 8:52 PM | Seconded (Score:3 Normal)
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Seconded, CC class of 09

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April 1st, 2012 at 9:18 PM | screw monroe (Score:1)
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go vikings haha

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April 1st, 2012 at 9:27 PM | Damn right screw monroe (Score:1)
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Go Kickin Mules

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April 1st, 2012 at 9:32 PM | I attended Bedford for two (Score:1)
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I attended Bedford for two years before going to Ida. Another great school, but when I attended, they had a horrible overcrowding problem. actually enjoyed Ida and the people there better. I remember the old gym teacher, coach K. 

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April 1st, 2012 at 10:17 PM | When did you go there? Since (Score:1)
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When did you go there? Since then they've added on to the two longest halls (A and E) but it's still way to small imo. I always think about how it would have been better to go to Ida. 

"Ohio is like a giant turd that Michigan just can't pinch off"

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April 2nd, 2012 at 9:38 AM | Bedford (Score:1)
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I also went to Bedford.  Of course when I graduated the school building was still brand new.

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April 1st, 2012 at 8:23 PM | Absurd... (Score:3 Normal)
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....and it sort of screams that nobody laughs anymore, or at least it seems that way to me. Yeah, there should be some reprimand, but from the school administration, and even then nothing more than cleaning up the mess and repairing anything damaged.

If they (i.e., the administrators) are so ineffective that they need to lean on the police, then I can think of someone else who should be reprimanded and it isn't a student. As a former Saline Hornet who was party to a few food fights, the only thing the school expected - at least in the early 90s - was no leftover ketchup on the walls. 

 

Anyway, food can be fun:

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April 1st, 2012 at 8:38 PM | It really is ridiculous (Score:1)
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I'm no delinquent; I've never had a penalty hall (what they call detention here) or anything. I go to a school in Monroe County as well (Bedford). All the changes to how the teachers are evaluated and how they're no longer protected by their union have made most of the teachers/administrators shit their pants. They're being nazis about everything. Our gym teacher (who no one likes because he always seems to have a stick up his ass) has been walking around the lunch room writing down people for having their cell phones out. If this is supposed to make schools better it sure isn't working. 

My friends and I were trying to think up a senior prank recently, but if this is what we have to look forward to, maybe no one will do one.

"Ohio is like a giant turd that Michigan just can't pinch off"

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April 1st, 2012 at 8:24 PM | I thought... (Score:0 Normal)
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I thought all the April 1 threads were done by now?

 

 

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April 1st, 2012 at 8:38 PM | Yeah that is completely (Score:2)
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Yeah that is completely insane. I go to PCEP and it got crazy at the end of last year, with food fights and pranks. They are talking about making us eat lunch in our class rooms for the last two weeks of school. Here is a link to what happened. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51wPZfof1Y0

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April 1st, 2012 at 9:26 PM | Putting kids in jail for a food fight? (Score:1)
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If that's all it takes to go to jail for now, I would've had a lengthy criminal record before I even made it to my senior year. Seems like the school is trying to make an example of them and is just taking it way way too far

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April 1st, 2012 at 10:20 PM | I live in Monroe (Score:5 Normal)
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and this incident was way more than just a food fight. They threw chairs and turned over tables and nearly created a riot. Not only did 4 go to jail but several others were suspended from school indefinitely. They deserve everything they get. There were some minor injuries reported. Not the way I want my tax dollars spent cleaning up after these idiots.

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April 1st, 2012 at 10:31 PM | I also live in monroe and I (Score:3 Normal)
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I also live in monroe and I agree and this does not shock me.

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April 1st, 2012 at 11:14 PM | this sounds exactly like (Score:2 Normal)
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this sounds exactly like  monroe county police work arrest people for stupid reasons like this instead of doing real work. 

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April 2nd, 2012 at 6:01 AM | Awww yeah, Monroe County (Score:2)
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Awww yeah, Monroe County represent!

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April 2nd, 2012 at 6:30 AM | Oh, come on.  These kids were (Score:4 Normal)
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Oh, come on.  These kids were not arrested for throwing food around a cafeteria.  You people aren't that gullible, are you?

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April 2nd, 2012 at 6:35 AM | America jails people for the stupidest reasons (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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April 2nd, 2012 at 9:30 AM | I'm guessing there's a little (Score:4 Normal)
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I'm guessing there's a little more to this story than just a little food fight.

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April 2nd, 2012 at 3:04 PM | my understanding was.. (Score:2 Normal)
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this was more than just spontaneous pranks, it was rather premeditated by a couple of the kids who were arrested and because of the scope of the problem, ie, it caused huge disruption the rest of the day, the school took a hard line as tables and other property were damaged and injury occured. Sounds like it was more than just food being thrown. With that in mind, I know it's hard to fathom sometimes, but you can also guess the kids arrested were likely not first time offenders in school. Usually if a student receives extreme consequence they've already used up their free grace pass on other trivial stupid stuff...thus them probably lashing out and premeditating a problem...I know food fights happen, I've worked school cafeteria time. All it takes is some boredom and spare or inedible school lunches...which is a daily concern. Bottom line there is no doubt far more to the story and good for them for setting the line and having a severe consequence.  Without being there and knowing all the details it's easy to say the school overreacted to the situation. I have to believe this was more than just a few carrots and mashed potatoes being flung around with spoons.

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April 2nd, 2012 at 12:20 PM | Looking at the comments (Score:2)
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http://www.monroenews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20120328/NEWS01/120...

 

It doesn't seem like they learned anything from it....maybe they needed more time in jail, not less.

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April 2nd, 2012 at 1:16 PM | Oh why do I read the comments? (Score:5 Normal)
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Stuff like this makes me question my faith in humanity....

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April 2nd, 2012 at 1:28 PM | Yeah, if you want any hope (Score:3 Normal)
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Yeah, if you want any hope for our country, never read the comments section of an online newspaper.  Unlike places like MGoBlog (where most of the discussion is at least halfway intelligent, though sophomoric), newspapers are read by everyone...and commented on by everyone.

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April 2nd, 2012 at 7:13 PM | Or anything you have to link with through (Score:2)
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April 2nd, 2012 at 12:50 PM | I saw this on the news... (Score:5 Normal)
elrod_tom
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I have a thought that stuff like this happens because it's the only way to maintain any kind of order any more.

The kids involved in this were clearly acting like idiots, and should have been forced to clean up their mess, pay for the damage, and suffer some other significant punishment at school and at home.  There was at least some destruction of property, and it's also easy for something like this to get out of hand and someone to get seriously hurt.  This doesn't strike me as "good clean fun".

The problem is that there is apparently no threat of punishment once they get home.  Then, if the administration attempts to hand out anything that qualifies as a real punishment, most parents any more will threaten the school with legal action.  Even the threat of a lawsuit is a costly endeavor fraught with peril for anyone, but especially a cash-strapped school district in this day and age.  So the administration does the "easy" thing...and turns it into a legal matter.

The punishment is ridiculous and turns common sense on its head, but it's not surprising.  If any of you watched the local news coverage of this, particularly the interviews with the parents, you might understand where I'm coming from here. 

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