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OT - Former UM Provost Reinstated as UVA President

Newsflash that former UM Provost, Teresa Sullivan, has been reinstated as UVA President by the Board of Visitors.

https://twitter.com/UVA/status/217700378056196096

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June 26th, 2012 at 3:42 PM | Wow (Score:3 Normal)
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Would take quite a sh*t-storm for a reversal of this magnitude. Good for her.

Man ball. Formerly, somebody else.

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June 26th, 2012 at 3:47 PM | The vote of the BOV was (Score:2)
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The vote of the BOV was unanimous.

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June 26th, 2012 at 4:30 PM | I believe Virginia's Governor (Score:4 Normal)
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I believe Virginia's Governor Bob McDonnell told the Board that they had to resolve the situation today and "speak in one voice" or else he would demand all of their resignations. Kind of a carrot & stick policy with no carrots.

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June 26th, 2012 at 3:51 PM | BTW, why are they called the (Score:2)
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BTW, why are they called the "Board of Visitors"?

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June 26th, 2012 at 4:02 PM | Cause that's what it was (Score:3 Normal)
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Cause that's what it was called at William & Mary where TJ went to school.  Why it was called that at William & Mary, I don't know.

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June 26th, 2012 at 4:12 PM | Because they visit... (Score:5 Informative)
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It was called that, I think, because they don't work inside the college--they would visit it, make sure it's running properly, and set the college's overall policy.  The President and the deans would run the place day-to-day, but the visitors would show up once or twice a year and make the important long-term decisions.

Harvard has a "Board of Overseers," which has the same connotation of outside supervision.

 

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June 26th, 2012 at 4:18 PM | Well, you learn something new everyday on here... (Score:2)
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June 26th, 2012 at 4:22 PM | I think this is basically (Score:2 Normal)
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I think this is basically right, except that UVA didn't have a president until the early 20th century. Until then, I believe governance was shared between the board of visitors and the faculty (the perceived violation of UVA's long tradition of faculty governance is one of many elements to this story).

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June 26th, 2012 at 4:35 PM | Yeah, good point. (Score:2)
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Excellent point.  The idea of a University President would have been completely foreign in the 17th Century when Harvard and W&M were started.  Academic governance would have mainly been by the faculty assembly, and there were probably deans that performed variouos administrative tasks.

 

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June 26th, 2012 at 4:40 PM | not completely foreign (Score:2 Normal)
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Oxford's colleges have had Principals, Presidents, etc. since at least the 16th century

RIP my avatar, June 14, 1998 - October 26, 2012.

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June 26th, 2012 at 5:57 PM | How is it not foreign? Oxford (Score:5 Normal)
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How is it not foreign? Oxford is in the UK.

Ba-dum-ch!

Hail to the college whose colors we wear,

Hurrah for the Yellow and Blue!

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June 26th, 2012 at 6:52 PM | Maybe he meant... Oxford, (Score:1)
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Maybe he meant... Oxford, TN?

 

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June 26th, 2012 at 9:46 PM | Yes, it's British, unlike (Score:1)
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Yes, it's British, unlike America in the 17th century. Oh wait... 

RIP my avatar, June 14, 1998 - October 26, 2012.

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June 26th, 2012 at 9:47 PM | Dude, Henry Dunster (Score:2 Normal)
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Appointed president of Harvard in 1640.

James Blair appointed first president of William and Mary at the establishment of its charter in 1693.



So no not completely foreign; you are 0-2 and thus unlikely to make the post-season at the rate you're going.

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June 26th, 2012 at 4:17 PM | I know I'm forgetting something ... (Score:1 Redundant)
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... but what went down that caused her to have to get reinstated?

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June 26th, 2012 at 4:36 PM | just moronic dilettantes on the BOV (Score:4 Normal)
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the rector (i.e., chairperson) of the BOV schemed with a wealthy donor or two and demanded her resignation without ever having a full vote of the board. they were freaking out about getting left behind in online education initiatives and other trends, but since that's obviously preposterous, they did it without any explanation whatsoever, and then got outed when the student paper FOIA'd their emails. they tried to cover their asses a couple of days later by having a PR firm craft a vague post-hoc list of 10 challenges they faced, but failed to say how sullivan had failed to address most of them. the vice rector stepped down, and the rector is up for reappointment on july 1st, but won't get reappointed if the governor has a brain. he probably doesn't. if he reappoints her, i'd be surprised if sullivan actually stays very long.

RIP my avatar, June 14, 1998 - October 26, 2012.

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June 26th, 2012 at 4:43 PM | Thanks. (Score:2 Normal)
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Thanks.

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June 26th, 2012 at 4:49 PM | An addendum (Score:4 Normal)
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Turns out the wealthy donors were investors (or something) in the leading online education company (or something). There was definitely money to be made, and Sullivan was seen as "in the way" of these folks cashing in.

"Over? Did you say, over? Nothing is over until we decide it is!"

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June 27th, 2012 at 10:11 AM | Thanks. I thought a few days (Score:2)
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Thanks. I thought a few days ago it smelled like money.

Who is Jon Falk?
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June 26th, 2012 at 8:28 PM | Actually, (Score:0 Normal)
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the entire board asked for her resignation, not just one or two of them. Also, she was hired under the understanding that financial changes, as well as online education, needed to be instituted. Then instead of moving aherad with this understanding she stalled, because she believed that she had made enough changes and was unconvinced about online education. The Board asked for her resignation, and in that process, and all the other days after that process, they were disfunctional and looked foolish. But they were right to let her go if she didn't move forward with changes that she was hired to help implement.

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June 26th, 2012 at 9:19 PM | There was probably majority (Score:1)
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There was probably majority support to force her out before the shitstorm, but the full BOV was never consulted when the Rector asked for Sullivan's resignation.  At least three members did not find out until just before her resignation.  The Rector and Vice Rector talked to their fellow board members individually, and once they had the votes to force Sullivan out, the Rector asked for Sullivan's resignation.

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June 26th, 2012 at 9:33 PM | Not true.  Dragas essentially (Score:3 Normal)
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Not true.  Dragas essentially gathered one vote at a time, and while she might well have gathered a majority that way, it's as likely as not that she did it by telling each of them individually that she already had plenty of support.  And three members of the board said they had never been consulted.  Whatever it was, it was definitely not unanimous.

She was hired with the understanding that financial changes needed to be made, yes.  She was not hired with the understanding that she would be instituting any kind of online learning.  And while Dragas claimed that the lack of a strategic plan was one of their issues with Sullivan, Sullivan has said she was explicitly told upon being hired not to do one. 

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June 26th, 2012 at 9:50 PM | where are you getting your information? (Score:1)
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you've already been corrected twice, but with so much accurate reporting of what's been going on, i wonder where you got this stuff. i thought this was one instance where dysfunctional media hadn't created confusion about the facts.

RIP my avatar, June 14, 1998 - October 26, 2012.

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June 26th, 2012 at 4:29 PM | June 21 article in New Republic (Score:2)
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contains her view of ways in which UVA cannot compete with universities like Michigan, being more of a liberal arts college, and a curriculum not well-suited to on-line courses.

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June 26th, 2012 at 4:37 PM | more of a liberal arts college? (Score:2 Normal)
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i wonder what LSA is supposed to be. but i think the differences are that UVA intends to distinguish itself by focusing attention on undergraduate education, which involves actually being in the same room with small numbers of students rather than posting videos of your lectures online as if that were an effective way of educating people.

RIP my avatar, June 14, 1998 - October 26, 2012.

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June 26th, 2012 at 4:43 PM | So is that crazy lady who got (Score:2)
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So is that crazy lady who got her ousted gone yet?

Rudy watches inspirational movies about Shawn Hunwick

 

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June 26th, 2012 at 4:45 PM | I think she's up for (Score:1)
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I think she's up for reappointment next month. Have to imagine it would be surprising if the governor reappoints her, given she's already received a vote of no confidence from the faculty senate.

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June 26th, 2012 at 4:49 PM | Her term is up on July 1.  (Score:2 Normal)
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Her term is up on July 1.  She can be reappointed to one more.  The chances of that are about the same as the chances of me scoring with Kate Upton.

Edit: to head off obvious Dumb and Dumber reference - yes, I'm saying there's a chance.

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June 26th, 2012 at 4:54 PM | She seems to like you. (Score:5 Normal)
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