OT: Former MSU assistant accused of involvement in Miami case
Title pretty much says it all. Jeff Stoutland, former MSU and Miami assistant (now at Alabama) is accused of bringing recruits to Shapiro's house for a recruiting pitch. Seems like it may be a small role in the grand scheme of things, but still possibly releveant. Truthfully, I went to Miami for undergrad and am just grasping at straws to find anything that's not awful news right now. Yes, a former assistant from my school who participated in recruiting violations being a former assistant from one of my team's rivals is the best I can do for "not awful news" for me.
Somebody get me that cat saying "Hold me TomVH".
August 17th, 2011 at 9:40 AM ^
If this somehow linked MSU to cheating and paying players than phenomenal and as much as I want them get crushed with something like this, I don't think any of that has gone on in EL.
August 17th, 2011 at 9:51 AM ^
Stanley McClover would disagree
August 17th, 2011 at 9:52 AM ^
It would be nice if the stink wafted to the strip mall called "MSU", but the minimal association is still fun. MSU's coaching tree is tied into the two biggest scandals in college sports. Good times.
August 17th, 2011 at 10:29 AM ^
If this is linked to MSU in some way, absent last year, it would indicate MSU does a generally terrible job of cheating.
August 17th, 2011 at 11:35 AM ^
The academic fraud under George Perles in the mid 90s should have been your first clue that they are terrible at cheating.
August 17th, 2011 at 9:46 AM ^
I work with Stoutland's niece. Should be interesting how this pans out.
August 17th, 2011 at 10:21 AM ^
How are these things related? Is something going to happen to her? Is she going to be devestated at the possible career damage to her uncle? Will you badger her about questions about her uncle until she leaves for a new job?
August 17th, 2011 at 9:56 AM ^
Pretty sure nothing is going to happen to players who are now in the NFL or coaches who have since moved on to new gigs... unless they did something very illegal. I am pretty sure giving people money isn't illegal (unless it is a judge, police officer, etc.). This is why the NCAA has no teeth. They can either blow up the athletic program of a school (which is harsh) or uhhh... not much.
August 17th, 2011 at 10:08 AM ^
So now MSU has links to the two biggest College Football scandals of the summer: Ohio State and Miami.
Hmmm.
Sebastian the Ibis, such a tragic hero.
August 17th, 2011 at 10:11 AM ^
...didn't actually have the biggest college basketball scandal in history.
Just sayin'.
August 17th, 2011 at 11:45 AM ^
You mean the scandal that basically birthed your program?
August 17th, 2011 at 11:56 AM ^
I see no connection to what happened at Baylor back in 2003 and Ann Arbor, thank you very much.
August 17th, 2011 at 10:14 AM ^
You just repeated exactly what dahblue said 15 minutes earlier...I have to give you a "redundant" for that.
August 17th, 2011 at 10:19 AM ^
Personally I think the mere association should be worth a bowl ban or at least force MSU to account for how they use jail as a place to keep players until right before they're playing.
Or not, I suppose. Hopefully you got to party with Nevin Shapiro while at the U.
On a side note, has anyone else been adding up all this spending on players in their head and coming short of a couple million until they realize "oh, that's right, drugs" and continue on with their day?
August 17th, 2011 at 11:22 AM ^
Stonum has been busted for crimes, what? Three times now? Four? How can you condemn second chances when the Great White Whale is giving people fifth chances to go from prison to the practice field?
Also, Ed Martin.
August 17th, 2011 at 11:35 AM ^
He's about to miss an entire season man. Second best receiver on the team. That stuff don't fly around here anymore.
August 17th, 2011 at 3:13 PM ^
I think it is more telling that Stoutland, along with a 2nd Miami assistant (don't know his name) who was named by Shapiro as knowing about the scandal both ended up with Saban and Alabama.