What I've heard
UF attrition
Here's a good Dr. Saturday article about the UF attrition. I have no idea how much attrition has occurred since the article was penned (which was Oct. 26th), but as of then, only 60 of the 85 players who signed LOI's since 2008 were still on the team.
Edit: Also, Alabama lost two more players to attrition over that same time period (27 vs. 25), but they also (over)signed 24 more LOI's (109-85) in those four years... #stopoversigning
Side question: Matt Hinton left Dr. Saturday- does anyone know where he might have landed?
Said on Twitter
That he had a likely destination but was vague about it.
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Another one from NFL.com
Another one from NFL.com basically says it's a down year for Florida's "Big 3," not just UF.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d828b4f35/article/florida-colleges-...
I LOVE MICHIGAN
top reason for attrition from Florida when Urban left ?
Their biggest reason for staying no longer existed---they could no longer aspire to be included in The Circle of Trust.
Will Hill?
The only former Gator that's
The only former Gator that's been drafted so far is Jenoris Jenkins.
I remember when my cupboard
I remember when my cupboard was almost empty the other day and I had to settle for split spea soup. I stocked up on Velveeta shells and cheese the next day,
If I Remember...
I believe Jaye Howard and Chris Rainey are the only Gators projected in the draft (i.e., played their full time there, not counting transfers like Jenoris Jenkins). That's a maybe too - they were pretty low on most lists, so who knows if they even go. I might be wrong about that, of course. You are right, however, about Florida's presence in the draft, it has sort of gone...well....the way of the Urban in Florida.
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It's little things like this
It's little things like this that give me hope that Urban isn't going to be as dominant as he was.
If you're doing nothing, how do you know when you're finished?
Listening to a sports radio
Listening to a sports radio station in Big 12 country on my way home from work, they were commenting on how strange it was that neither Oklahoma nor Texas had any players drafted at the time (part way through the 2nd round) but Baylor and OSU (ntosu) each had two taken in the first round.
Maybe someone at Bleacher
Maybe someone at Bleacher Report, should read this, because according to them Meyer's building an outstanding class at tsiO and UM's class is severely overrated. WTF
"The goal, the expectation of this program is the Big Ten Championship"
Paying attention to anything
Paying attention to anything on BR is about like taking monetary advice from my ex brother-in-law who thought timeshares were a great investment.
But at least with timeshares,
But at least with timeshares, you don't have to wade through near as many mouth-breathers and racists to see how bad a deal it is.
It's too early to start feeling sorry for Florida
That state has more than enough football talent for FSU, Florida, Miami and their neighbors. They even managed to have enought talent left over that a Heisman candidate lands all the way to Michigan. Cry me a river Gator fans.
Cam left College ball last
Cam left College ball last year he was a Urban guy.
BigWeenie
I know I'm a Debbie Downer,
I know I'm a Debbie Downer, but Michigan hasn't had a great number of draft picks in recent years, either. Our first draft pick this year came in the third round, and I'm not sure that we'll have any first rounders in next year's draft, either...
Not even
our donkey hating LT? I know that he has two years of eligibilty left but.......
I'm expecting him to stick it
I'm expecting him to stick it out for two more years, but who knows?
Difference is nobody really
Difference is nobody really talks about rich rod and his recruiting classes. Meyer, however, is always given so much praise for all the talent he is able to put together. so his point is that meyer is supposed to have had all this talent at Florida but nobody is being drafted. (although, i'd say that might be due to other circumstances and not due to lack of talent. lots of attrition after meyer left)
Ben's Brother
Rodriguez has nothing to do with it
His first full class is just now going into their true senior season. Odoms and Shaw are the only guys he brought in who have been in the draft pool yet.
It is spelled HOKEAMANIA. Our coach is an ass-kicking American citizen, not one of the Beatles, for Christ's sake!
Whoa, back up a second.
You spent the season crediting the success on that class maturing and how they were Rich's guys, and now that they're not getting drafted, they're back to somebody else's?
You said we had a lot of future NFL talent on these rosters....so you're expecting tons of picks next year? There Lewan if e comes out...Denard at a different position....and.....? There will be guys drafted, for sure. But we're going to have a quiet day one (and two, to some extent) for a few more years.
"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk
Wasn't Denard slotted as the
Wasn't Denard slotted as the #3-4 receiver if he left this year? I'd have a hard time seeing someone with his level of athleticism slipping below the 1st round.
c/o 2008
GO BLUE!
Al Davis?
Al Davis?
Go Blue!
Take off the
maize and blue glasses. Who's taking a 5'11 Slot Receiver with durability concerns, ball security issues, and has never played a snap at the position in the 1st round?
Yes...that guy.
I was thinking the same
I was thinking the same thing. Of course, with Florida all you hear is how amazing that school is for producing pro talent, while UM has never been touted as an NFL factory even when it was outfitting a good number of pro teams with talented players.
All that said, I don't put as much emphasis on NFL production when considering how good a recruiter is for a school. College coaches are paid to win games, not produce pros, and while both tend to go hand-in-hand, NCAA champions can oftentimes have relatively few pro prospects while consistently mediocre clubs can produce pros at an amazing rate (see Illinois, Clemson, etc.). Meyer's problems at Florida stemmed from his inability to both win games with his talent as well as bring in enough top-notch kids to stay competitive when some of them left early.
"UM has never been touted as
"UM has never been touted as an NFL factory"
Waddya mean? . . . we're Quarterback U! Or at least we were. Now we need to get back there.
M'Dog
I disagree
We should have a first round pick next year. Kiper said that Denard will be at least the #2 WR for next year. In this current NFL, there will definitely be two WRs taken in the first round. That puts Denard as a first round pick. I know he really wants to be a QB at the next level but you gotta think teams would take him regardless because of his potential elsewhere.
This is all not mentioning Lewan, Toussaint, and Floyd(maybe?) who could all be first round picks if they have good years this fall.
I believe (and I hope), that our days of being irrelevant on Draft day like we have been in the last few years, are over.
Your claims are unfounded.
Floyd will be lucky to be an undrafted free agent. He's no where near the caliber of player that Martin or RVB are and look how close to the 1st they went.
Toussaint will need a big year and a sub 4.5 40 to get picked day 1 or 2.
Denard will have to accept WR, run routes, show he can catch, and show well in the 40. His durability issues, fumbles and the decline of the wildcat have impacted his stock.
Taylor has a legit shot at a first round pick with a good year.
Yes...that guy.
Janoris Jenkins...
Prime example, still ended up getting picked in Round 2.
Interesting Wikipedia fact - somebody must be a hater: at the time of the NFL combine, had 4 children by 3 different women.
Unlike Illinois, whose
Unlike Illinois, whose cupboard was obviously stocked FULL. o.O
How many times have you been on the freeway and had someone fly by you at 100 mph then end up 2 cars ahead of you at the off ramp? What's the point? -Mark Harmon
And all those players have
And all those players have had to switch offenses (twice now?) and by all accounts have some incompetent or otherwise unproven coaches.
I think once the coaching
I think once the coaching staff has more than 1 year to mold players, the draft prospects for UM will improve
"The goal, the expectation of this program is the Big Ten Championship"
Florida has 14 starters
Florida has 14 starters coming back - so it's not really a surprise that they don't have many picks yet. Next year will have quite a few top picks.
My gator fan friends tell me that attrition was super high/devastating after Meyer left. So I guess most of the guys from those top recruiting classes transferred.
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