The beach. Oberon. Tigers-Twins 1-1 heading into the 7th. 80 degrees. Somebody with some musical ability at DTE. Sandals. These are the contents of my dreams.
Somebody, make this go away. Tell me it is over. Please.
It is over.
but it always comes back... you can mark it on your calendar.. F#%king winter SUCKS
winter f#%k's you thread... I hate skiing.. I hate snowmobiling... i hate cleaning off my car... I hate my job that brought me here... I just want the area.. and it to be fall all the time...
How could you hate snowmobiling? My family has four of them and they are so damn fun to ride. Only thing that sucks about them is your back get sore if the trails haven't been groomed, it's like riding on moguls for 7 hours straight.
I just wish we'd quit getting this "ehhh maybe I'll blizzard, maybe I won't" snow. If it's going to snow an annoying amount, I don't want there to be any freakin' way my boss expects me in for work. I'm talking 3' of it.
If that happens, let it snow let it snow let it snow. If not, bring me football season.
But I'll still be married. To a harpy.
Your wife can eat tons of food and then immediately poop it out?
I've never seen her described so aptly.
We will make it through winter...
your mention of sandals makes me glad it is winter.
Questions from an OOSer:
1. What is everyone's obsession with Oberon? I get that it's a local beer, but I don't think it's all that like most of the people I encounter.
2. Why is everyone so whiny about the snow here? Haven't most people lived in Michigan their whole lives? If not Michigan, aren't a lot of people from Chicago, New York? Shouldn't everyone be used to the snow by now?
The only thing that really annoys me about the Winters here in Ann Arbor is the lack of plowing around campus.
Oberon's good, but there's a lot of other Bell's stuff and fairly local/regional IPA's and such that are just as good or better. Hopslam (10%) is awesome and gets me fucked up.
I've lived in the Midwest my whole life, and I haven't really hated Winter/snow until junior/senior year of college. Man it fucking sucks to have to walk everywhere in unplowed snow, digging cars out, etc. The campus is also very spread out compared to some of the off campus housing, so walking from say Michigan Avenue to Denison or Angell Hall sucks when it freshly snows the night before. Luckily almost all my classes are in the Bschool, so it's not too far. Other than that, I have no problem with winter/cold.
Worst part is when it's 50 degrees outside and I'm running in shorts, only to have it be 20 degrees and 9 inches of snow three days later. Really gets your hopes up then fucks you in the ass.
I have to try Hopslam, I've heard good things. I had Bell's Two Hearted Ale on tap a while back, it was really good.
It's funny because most people wouldn't consider 50 to be shorts weather, but many of us do. I know I wore sandals all last week because 1. the snow had melted 2. It was above freezing.
You really do need to try Hopslam, it is an elite level beer.
As to Oberon, I bought a six pack of it last week. It's no Hopslam or the better Goose Island or Great Lakes stuff, but I liked it alright.
Oberon is a draft beer. If you don't want to get it at a bar or restaurant, then buy a mini-keg and finish it off with a friend. I tried it in a bottle and didn't like it that much. Had it on draft and I can't stop drinking it. We bought a quarter barrel of it for the week of my wedding. Best decision ever.
Hopslam isn't necessarily for everyone. I love IPA's (only beer I drink if given a choice) and Hopslam is very bitter and obviously very hoppy. It also has a distinctive after taste of alcohol, kind like a scaled down version of the aftermath of taking a shot. However, I really like it.
My first time I underestimated a 10% beer and drank 6.5 over the course of one dinner. Then took four shots at Charley's. Needless to say, I was FUCKED UP and ended that night losing my keys, my belt, and calling 911.
I don't find Hopslam all that bitter, I just went to look at the IBU's but couldn't find the number immediately. Edit- It's 70, not all that bitter for a big, hoppy Double IPA.
I'm with you on the IPA's most of the time though. Have you tried the Dogfish Head India Brown Ale? If I can find another India Brown, I will definitely be buying it.
If you like all the beers you mentioned above, you should try Flying Dog Snake Dog IPA. Probably my favorite IPA.
I'll look for it next time I go to the store.
I kind of lump in bitter with the hoppiness in most cases. Actually for Hopslam, I think the effect is the alcohol aftertaste combined with the hoppiness that mixes into a somewhat bitter taste, at least for me. Drinking one right now, in fact.
I've tried most of the IPA's you can get in the area, including the Dogfish 60 and 120 min, but I don't think I've had the India Brown. I'll have to check that out. The Village Corner going out of business sale was great for trying a bunch of new IPA's. I gotta say my favorite IPA is the Crooked Tree by Dark Horse, just love it.
Yea, I definitely get what you're saying, Hopslam has a very strong taste.
I tried the 60 last night actually. It made me want to try the 120, but I didn't fall in love with the 60 itself.
The IBA is much sweeter, but not thick like a stout....haven't had anything from Dark Horse, but I'll definitely take a look when I can.
The DFH 90 Min IPA is delicious and 9% abv. I *think* it's on tap at Ashley's as well, which is awesome.
I totally used to rock shorts in 50 degree weather in February/March in Michigan.
Now that I'm in San Diego I'm enjoying my first winter of warmth, but to the people out here you'd think it was like I was still in Michigan and it was below zero.
The guy I share an office with is wearing thermals and it's 62 degress outside. I guess it's all relative
that the beer itself is anything special, I prefer Two-Hearted, Blue Moon Spring, and a host of Great Lakes products to Oberon. But as long as I can remember, Oberon stood for something more. Oberon means cookouts, it means the pool, the beach. Oberon is a sign of the times to me more than just a beer. It is a declaration of summer.
I feel the same way about Sam Adams Summer Ale.
Try Founder's Double Trouble -- I like it better than Hopslam.
Yeah, but you should be used to the irregular weather patterns of the area right? I mean, I'm not saying I like the cold or the snow, I don't. But I grew up in the Northeast, so I'm used to it. It's just really annoying to hear people complain every time it snows like it doesn't happen anywhere else or it wasn't expected. I guess part of it is people's reasons for complaining.
I was born into it. I didn't choose to live in Michigan.
I've lived here my whole life, was captain of my high school ski team, almost took a job as a ski instructor out west, still go to school in ann arbor, but, somehow, I still hate the snow. It's the only thing I know.
I said that too back in late February 2006 and here I am in Michigan.
I was the same way after graduating. Have now lived in five states and Michigan is right at the top. Yes the winter is too long but there are always tradeoffs. Go live in the sun and maybe you'll miss Michigan like I did, or maybe you won't.
I'm down with winter. I just wish spring wouldn't have been like "I'm here! haha no I'm not" last week. It got me ready for warm weather and now we're not getting any for a while.
My six year old and I just came in from having a blast playing in the snow.
3 year old told me in no uncertain terms this morning that "I sick o cold, when da sun come back daddy." I replied, "I wish I knew."
I'm being an optimist today in wake of this shit:
1.) Spring Training games start in a week (some less)
2.) Daylight Savings Time is March 13th
3.) March Madness begins March 15th
4.) It was 65 degrees last year on St. Patrick's Day (it's possible)
5.) The Masters is almost a month away
This soon shall pass.
More like, Loseter.
These shit-blizzards and having to shovel 4 times is a huge piss off. JCorqian what kind of watch is that in your avatar?
It's the Hornet Trafalgar, by Arnold & Son. I'm by no means a watch expert, but I just really liked it when I saw it. On a list of best/most expensive watches I saw somewhere awhile ago. Pretty fucking expensive.
As I posted in another thread, there's nothing better than Spring, Summer, and Fall in Michigan. We have water everywhere, great (and very smart) people, and places like Traverse City and Petoskey are national gems.
Winter sucks. Make it better by skiing, skating, shoveling your own snow (sans snowblower), and napping. Yes to snowmobiling and cross-country - there are few things as satisfying as the smell and stillness of the deep woods in winter. Allow it to make you tougher, and appreciate the other seasons (and metaphorically, the better times) more.
I lived in Cali after college, Orange County. My friends there hadn't been to the beach in years. There's no way to not take it for granted, and people don't do that here.
you just made me feel better. Thanks to you my friend.
Loves the snow.
I am getting some excellent cardio from these 5 AM shovel sessions. Too bad I then feel like somebody beat me up by the time I am at work and the adrenaline of the moment has worn off.
What's worse than winter?
Changing Misopogal's flat tire in winter.
Is your friend.
I'm old fashioned in a few ways. That or knowing how to change a tire makes up a little for the fact that I'm Detroit born and bred and really don't know shit about cars.
Till I realized $50-60 a year was better than crouching in dirty slush, or rubbing my knuckles raw trying to untwist frozen bolts, or getting stuck in the middle of nowhere trying to find a tow, when they'll instead come out and do it for free.
You love talking about Misopogal.
I agree with the fuck winter sentiment, but Hopslam is so much better than Oberon it's silly.
Apples and oranges, man.
I guess I'm an apple guy then. In GR the bars switch from Two Hearted to Oberon during the summer and it makes me a sad sad panda. Don't get me wrong; Oberon is a good beer, but I just don't see all the commotion. Also, my beloved hopslam disappears. Other than that, however, this guy hates winter.
I'd be sad too. The day I discovered Two Hearted Ale was an incredible day. It was also a drunken day, but that is to be expected.
Here's a good thing about winter: How good does a stout, porter, or ale taste after getting in from the cold? In fact, I'm going to go have one right now.
I definitely prefer IPAs to summer ales. As for Oberon, I think that it has a big psychological draw for people. For those who drink shitty "beer", it's likely that Oberon is their only contact with the world of beer thanks to its near-mainstream presence around Michigan. Meanwhile, many people who know beer were initiated to that world by a friend's sharing Oberon with them. It's a big "when I saw the light" beer for Michiganders.
I think it definitely depends where houser from and what you grew up with. I was wholly unprepared for the
Michigan winters. I'm not from cold parts of the country and couldn't believe how often it snowed and - the killer - how long winter lasts! I have since moved to California and love the fact that if I want snow, I can go to Tahoe. If I don't - which is most of the time - I stay home by the ocean. Love Michigan from June till October. The rest of the months, I gotta take off and see the sun!!!
The winters of the mid and late 70s were much worse! Lots of snow, it was cold from November through April and in 1975-1978 we had blizzard that just closed down the interstates across the state. I remember in January of '77 when I-94 was closed west of A**2 and I-96 was closed west of Novi! Brutal!!! Hopefully Global warming will kick in!
I don't know, i just went up to Lake Placid last weekend and snowboarded for the first time and absolutely loved it! I love warm weather but now i'm not as eager to wish away winter.
Sorry, can't help myself when I hear Lake Placid.
Believe me, that is 1,000 times more refreshing to hear than "wasnt there a movie about lake placid ... About an alligator?"
LP is a really fun small town with great charm. I can only imagine what the party scene was like after that game.
I blame Betty White.
(Though I have heard it's a great town. Giant Gators aside).
I was going to reply with something along the lines of "On behalf of winter, fuck you." Instead, I'll try to be helpful.
First of all, sure, Oberon (or your summer ale of choice) is nice on a hot summer day. In winter, though, you have to reach for a heady stout (try New Holland's The Poet, for example) or a dark brown ale (I enjoyed New Holland's Cabin Fever this weekend). Keep your beer seasonal, and soon you will have excellent associations with those heavy beers that you can't drink on a hot day. Second, grab some thermal socks, long underwear, and a warm sweater. Wear these while drinking your beer in a comfortable chair. When it's snowing, just watch it come down and think about how warm you are. If you're mindful of this when you're inside, it makes going outside easier.
Yesterday it was 60 and over the weekend all the snow melted in my backyard. It was so windy though that part of my fence blew into neighbor's yard. Today there is 7 inches of fresh snow and I cannot fix anything until it melts.
My son is double-super pissed because they were already off for President's Day. He feels that he was robbed of a snow day. He is even hoping for a delay tomorrow.
...and I truly feel for you guys. Although believe it or not it has been very bad down here too this (and last) winter. We may not get the raw temp or depth of snow, but combine the 15 - 20 degree temps with the high humidity and it is bone chilling cold.
But it looks like winter has broken down here (70's over the weekend.... and youth baseball is underway!) so maybe it's coming your way.
I was in Ann Arbor three summers ago with my family (in July) and my son (then 11) said "Dad, we've got to move here.... the weather is so awesome!"... One of those 70 degree July days when it was 102 in Atlanta... So you've got that!
Oberon has been terrible for a few years. This past year was the worst yet. Here's hoping what happened to Bell's doesn't happen to Founders (which is currently expanding).
I've noticed this too, the batches vary. Probably based on age/exposure. The mini kegs seem to be better in general.
Just wanted to bitch. First I found out I had to work outside today, then I found out the locks are frozen on the Magazine so I can't get ammo to take boots to the gun range so they can fail. I schedule range in the spring and fall just to avoid these situation, God bless all the Military Officers who live in a world of perfect ideas but no common sense/practical knowledge.
Since we are being random, anyone else in Chicago notice how well the Rahm ads blend in with the sites color palate?