OT - Fight Hunger Bowl will have two female officials

Submitted by Cold War on

The Fight Hunger Bowl will make history with two female officials this year.

The game between BYU and Washington on Dec. 27 in San Francisco will be called by a crew from Conference USA that includes Sarah Thomas as line judge and Maia Chaka as head linesman.

NCAA national coordinator of officials Rogers Redding says it is the first time two female officials have worked the same FBS game...

 

http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefootball/story/fight-hunger-bowl-will-have-2-female-officials-121813

boliver46

December 19th, 2013 at 10:44 AM ^

why is this news other than publicity for an also-ran bowl?  "Hey, look at us!  We're progressive!  Men's College Football - NOW with more women!"

As long as they're choosing referees based on skill and merit vs. some sort of quota or desire for p.c. equality - it shouldn't be that big of a deal.

Jon06

December 19th, 2013 at 11:58 AM ^

Female referees at this level are just as likely to be substantially better than the average male referee, having overcome additional hurdles, as they are to be any worse, having been granted unfair advantages for political purposes. I strongly suspect the former, but YMMV.

MgoRayO3313

December 19th, 2013 at 11:28 AM ^

Men have often played/participated in the female sport they a reffing. Ex. Basketball
The game is the same, the only differences are the size of the ball and the distance from the three point line to the basket. With a few slight exceptions, like overall speed and athleticism, the games are exactly the same. The male ref at one time likely participated and understands the intricacies of the game. He does not get all the info from a manual.

However in contrast, very few women (percentage wise) participate in football as a youth. Te perception is that these women could not all the game as good as men because they ne'er had first hand playing experience.

Argue what you will about the logistics but this is likely one of the contributing factors why so few women ref men's football games at all levels.

Monocle Smile

December 19th, 2013 at 2:26 PM ^

Sure, it probably shouldn't be news, but holding that position totally ignores the magnitude of the event. You could say that you don't think Jackie Robinson's story "should be news," (and it's cliche of me to invoke this example), but that ignores the actual circumstances.

GoWings2008

December 19th, 2013 at 10:24 AM ^

they'll be hot women in form fitting uniforms, ironically representing the whole ideal of "fighting hunger." 

Hey sweetheart, you look to be a stomach flu away from your ideal weight...

Don

December 19th, 2013 at 10:32 AM ^

to make horrible calls, miss blatant holding right in front of them, get pass interference completely backwards, and generally suck at officiating.

LSAClassOf2000

December 19th, 2013 at 10:34 AM ^

There have actually been a few stories written about Sarah Thomas over the last few years, but I believe that recently she became part of a small pool of finalists to fill a potential NFL opening as early as next year. She has worked New Orleans scrimmages as well as Colts practices already, so while she wouldn't technically be the first woman to officiate an NFL game (one replacement ref during the lockout was a woman), she would be the first permanent employee if selected. 

ijohnb

December 19th, 2013 at 10:34 AM ^

on the big sexy linebacker with the broad shoulders......"

I guess you may see more "illegal shift" calls and perhaps some "hitting from behind below the waist" calls if ya know what I mean.

I will be here all week.

MI Expat NY

December 19th, 2013 at 10:57 AM ^

Hard to believe it's taken this long for women to make inroads into officiating.  Officials aren't typically physical specimens (ed hochuli's guns, notwithstanding).  There's nothing masculine about keen observation skills and the ability to make quick accurate decisions.  A woman can be every bit as competent or incomptent as a male official.   

GoWings2008

December 19th, 2013 at 11:02 AM ^

with most of your premise, the delay of women's progress into many areas of our society has been a travesty, but I think a big reason behind this particular issue is that a much smaller percentage of women even like football enough to take on this responsibility.

Now, I can hear the voices responding now...yes, there are women who like football.  But to the level that men do?  And with as much passion to want to be a referee?  We're talking about a very small cross section of individuals. 

just my 17 cents...

MgoRayO3313

December 19th, 2013 at 11:05 AM ^

You are obviously correct when it comes to observation skills. However, background knowledge and familiarity with the game and it's tendencies are often just as important. You can train individuals to pick up on these things but experience with the game helps.

Its like the women broadcasters for various sports teams/events. The commentary is initially scripted so it sounds fluid and normal but when the conversation or debate goes improv then the women sometimes sound like a fish out of water. I personally can't sand it but understand the reasoning.

We will continue to see more women becoming involved because football is marketed to women better today then ever before, ultimately stirring interest. Hopefully they do a fine job.

MI Expat NY

December 19th, 2013 at 11:13 AM ^

This wasn't clear at all in my post, but I was referring to all officiating (football, baseball, basketball, hockey, etc.)  There has been very little inroads for women officials in any sport, even those that women have been playing for a long time.  

Your argument makes some sense with respect to football, though I would question just how much high school football experience would help an official in an NFL game.  And I think there are far more women with background knowledge and familiarity with football than you or the commenter above you acknowledge.  

MgoRayO3313

December 19th, 2013 at 11:45 AM ^

There are plenty of women who are fully knowledgeable when it comes to football. More today then ever before. Like all Americans, whether you like football or not you are exposed to it in ever increasing doses at the very least on a seasonal basis. I do not mean to say that women can't referee. That's just dumb. My argument is just that since women are not as exposed to the game itself as a youth (through peer pressure). Because of some of these factors less women become involved to the extent necessary at such a high level.

And no high school wouldn't be necessary, but for many officials looking to make it a profession it typically seems like it would e towards the lower rung of a natural progression upwards through the ranks.

icactus

December 20th, 2013 at 1:12 AM ^

Not funny or clever either way. I will venture a guess you're not part of a group that experiences institutionalized marginalization and that you like to point out when you think certain groups shouldn't be offended. I hope sometime you think about how a simple joke to you is nothing but damaging to someone else. There are a lot of other ways to be a clever, funny guy.

JeepinBen

December 19th, 2013 at 1:15 PM ^

Nice job board, civil, smart discussions like this make MGoBlog a rare place on the internet. We only had 2 comments or so that were "haha, look, she has boobs!" that weren't completely sarcastic.

That said, the comments above between Landon and MGoRay don't quite delve deep enough. Not only do women (and men) have to be knowledgeable and like football to ref, they also have to want to ref - which isn't easy and doesn't appeal to a lot of people of either gender.

http://mmqb.si.com/tag/game-150/

Peter King had a great longread when he was embedded with a ref crew for the NFL. (Coincedently, Gene Steratore the ref, went to Ann Arbor to ref a college hoops game during the game week) I'd never really thought of it, but the 8 officials have to be watching 22 different moving parts every play. Great read if you have the time.

bronxblue

December 19th, 2013 at 1:19 PM ^

Hopefully we'll get a point in the near future where having two female referees isn't a noteworthy moment, but good on them for getting a chance to officiate a bowl game.