The kind that gets you drunk after T-Wolf blows out his ankle.
Next question Alex.
The kind that gets you drunk after T-Wolf blows out his ankle.
Next question Alex.
Oh I'm so sorry, you did not answer in the form of a question.
But I do agree, anything that will fuck you up and make you forget about the somewhat horrid last couple of weeks.
Fuck the bourbon. I loaded up with several cases of Goose after the TWolf news. It may be a very, very long Fall.
It's not my favorite but it's pretty widely available and it's comperable to some bourbans that are twice as expensive.
Of course, you can get a bottle of Old Crow for $8. It's not Jefferson's Reserve but, for the price, it isn't all that bad.
Bullettin is good. i may have spelled the name wrong. I was starting to drink more bourdon before T-Wolf got hurt. I now plan to hook up an IV drip for the next three months.
By the way, given the way this off-season is going, I do not think that discussions of alcohol are "OT."
I was talking about
Blanton's can be found at Morgan & York (formerly Big Ten); has a horse on the cork.
Bookers has the sweetness, and with the high ABV it stands up to drinking on the rocks. I think it's the best choice for those that prefer their bourbon on the rocks.
BTW, Dickel isn't bourbon, it's Tennessee whiskey like Jack Daniels.
I like Knob Creek as well.
Yeah, it's my favorite. I'm buying a bottle when I get accepted to Ross.
Makers Mark!!! Its like candy.
Billboard in Columbus:
How else do you think I got through these last 2 years?
No, dude. You need to reassess. It used to be my go-to, and after that billboard, I will not pay for it ever again. They made a calculated marketing decision, which I am fine with: they likely figured that it made more sense to piss off Michigan fans and make OSU people happy from a financial standpoint. That's fine. That's how it is. I no longer drink the stuff.
Knob Creek for me now. I don't know when my boycott will end, but I'm still not over that billboard. They did what they had to do; I'm doing what I have to do.
If you've read any of my posts on this kind of stuff you will know that I'm all about rooting for your team. But I'm cold on crap like this. Makers Mark has insulted me. I will never touch their stuff again. I have written to their corporate office and never even heard back from them. Nuff Said.
and Blanton's as my favorite
I apparently don't have as much money as some of you. My favorite(s):
If you can find Beam Rye, give it a try. It's tasty and inexpensive. Rye is not bourbon, but if you like one you might like the other.
I love Whiskey. Can someone explain the difference in taste between Bourbon and Scotch?
Bourbon is sweeter than scotch, with occasional flavors of vanilla. It is also sharper and spicier. The corn gives it a bite. Bourbon is made with at least 51% corn, and the rest is usually rye and other grains.
Scotch is usually described as smoky, which is how it tastes to me. If you've been to the UK, scotch tastes like a peat moss fire smells (which is better than it sounds). It is smoother, and perhaps a little richer than bourbon, although the higher-end bourbons like Blanton's will give it a run on smoothness and richness.
The subtleties are imparted by the barrels used for aging, so there is a lot of variation.
Most Scotch is produced using peat moss smoke to dry the malt. So, most are going to be somewhat "smoky". Highland malts tend to have a subtle-to-moderate peaty/smoky nose and taste, (Eastern less so; Western more so). Islay malts are like sitting next to a someone chain-smoking cigars, (though - I have to say - I'm still partial to Lagavulin).
For someone trying Scotch for the first time, (or someone who likes bourbon) I'd start them on an Eastern Highland or Speyside malt. My favorite Speyside, (and overall my favorite Scotch) is The Macallan. However, Glenlivet is probably the most popular.
I recommend glenmorangie for a new scotch drinker. Atleast that is where I started.
Absolutely. Good call. Not my all-time favorite, but it was for a long time before I'd been seduced by the nirvana that is The Macallan.
Now, I'm thirsty, damn it. I've got to run to the store anyway.
Single-malt Glen Livet, Glen Garry perhaps…any Glen will do.
Bourbon is American, and made with corn
Scotch is... Scotch, and made with barley.
I've read all about them, but I just didn't know the difference in flavor. I'm a huge beer drinker and can taste the most minute of flavors in them because I know what I am looking for. I have started with wine and will probably start on Whiskeys soon, but it just helps to know what I am supposed to be tasting so that I can try to differentiate between various styles.
While it does really differ from brand to brand, normally a scotch will be earthier and smokier, while a bourbon is woodier and sweeter.
That is a generalization. The factors that make the difference are that scotch is normally barley based, while most bourbons are corn based. The higher temperature and first-use barrels give the bourbon the woodiness and sweetness that the cooler scottish temps and once-used barrels give the scotch. The smoky flavor in a scotch comes from the peat used in cooking the mash.
One thing that is misleading about scotch vs bourbon is the length of time the whisk(e)y spends in the barrel. Because of the temperature difference and the barrels being second-use, scotch needs to be aged for a longer amount of time in order to get similar result. Kentucky bourbon ages a lot faster than scotch does. So a 12 year old scotch may have aged as well as a 6 year old Bourbon.
I have never tried it, but a buddy of mine is all about Four Roses lately.
I generally prefer Canadian Whisky actually. Canadian Club 12 year blows Crown Royal out of the water if you aren't concerned with the pretty purple bag.
CC is great, and since its distilled in Windsor, it feels like I'm supporting the local economy, more of less.
But, Knob Creek: I can't go there with you. I bought a bottle a couple of years ago, and found it to have a harshness not present in my personal favorite, Basil Hayden. I'll have to try the Four Roses and Buffalo Trace, though. My liquor cabinet is empty of whiskey at the moment.
Four Roses has new management and they are really intent on making a top-end product now. Their stuff has dramatically improved.
I recommend Elijah Craig 18 Year.
Even though Maker's Mark did the whole add thing their bourbon is still the best for manhattans, one of my favorite cocktails. My fiancee and I bought a bottle of the Elijah Craig Single Barrel 18yo, pretty good stuff. I have had several blind tastings but my notes from those are on the home computer.
i've loved bourbon ever since my dad n his brothers used to give me sips when I was 2 yrs old at christmas so's i'd be easily induced to go "tackle the wall, kid" and pass out for their amusement...then they'd bet on which present would break first when launched off the porch. true story.
but my favorite spirit is actually RYE whiskey, which speaks to me with a subtler sweetness and aroma. hard to find, tho. best one's i've had are Black Maple and Rittenhouse, but more easily found is Wild Turkey rye which is still lovely with or without a couple cubes.
go forth and surprise your friends with the wonders of rye.
well done, sir.
I think the best is Buffalo Trace. We did a blind bourbon tasting with everything from inexpensive Bourbons to Single-barrel bourbons that cost over a hundred dollars a bottle. Hands down, the Buffalo Trace won. Available at A&L wine castle on Stadium and also on Jackson Ave west of Wagner (Shameless Plug). The bottle costs about $21.00.
A & L also has the bigges collection of single malt scotch in the Ann Arbor area (my favorite).
I had Buffalo Trace for the first time this weekend. Very good. Killer bang for your buck too.
I was talking to the guys at A&L about Buffalo Trace, and they actually go down to the distillary a few times a year to taste and select specific barrels of bourbon. Those barrels then get bottled and sold specifically by A&L.
I like it both straight, and in manhattans with Vya vermouth.
Rich and semi-sweet- named after Abe Lincoln's home as a youngster.
Good stuff and reasonably priced.
While not technically a burbon, Stranahan's Colorado Whiskey is outstanding (but pricey).
That Colorado whiskey is fantastic. I need to track down a bottle around here.
woodford reserve is pretty damn tasty.
Like the picture. I was able to go to Bethlehem this year and check out some of Banksy's work including that one. Although there was a gas truck in the way I still got pics of it.
Agreed. I have gone to Woodford as well as Knob Creek since Maker's Mark became dead to me. Jim Beam Black is also surprisingly good; had a glass the other night for the first time and was pleased.
Makes flying delta cross-country less of a pain.
Maker's Mark 46, if you can get past the advertising.
Bourbon is my drink of choice. My favorite by far is Bakers. Many places get confused when i ask for it and think I mean Makers Mark. Bakers is in the same category as Basil Hayden's and Bookers, but I think it is a little sweeter which makes it easier to drink on the rocks. I drink it that way or make it a Bourbon press and had a splash of 7 and a splash of soda. Great drink. Blantons is very good as well, but overall, I have yet to find a better tasting bourbon than Bakers.
By the way Scotch and Bourbon although cousins of some sort, are polar opposites as far as I am concerned. The only interesting significance is that Scotch is now stored in old Bourbon barrels. They are shipped to Scotland from America after being used.
Bourbon barrels are used to add color, fwiw.
Not sure how true that is, but maybe. The reason I say that is Scotch was made long before Bourbon was. My understanding from talking with some bartenders in Scotland a few weeks ago is that Scotch barrels can be used multiple times and buying them used is much cheaper than new ones each time. Bourbon barrels on the other hand can only be used once. Not sure if that is government only allowing one use or the distillers only wanting to use the barrels once.
The legal (?) restriction that requires bourbon (like all American whiskeys, including Tennessee whiskey) to only be aged in new oak barrels does not also constrain Scotch distillers. However, some Scotch distillers have taken to a "finish" in wine barrels, sherry casks,etc., which imparts some of the character of those spirits and beverages.
Easily my favorite.
Bakers on the high end. Buffao Trace on the low end.
Ruled for 72 years and took a lot more territory than he lost.
Knob Creek is great.
Basil Hayden's is great.
Booker's is great.
Buffalo Trace is great AND inexpensive! Love it.
I'll take mine on the rocks. I'm a long time lover of Maker's Mark, but I'll give them a one-year penalty for that stupid billboard. After this year they won't be able to make a billboard like that.
Cheap and sweet: Old Taylor
"Value" -- Elijah Craig 12 year. (Bulliet and Rebel Yell are also good, but not as good at least to me) Eagle Rare 12 is also great, but a bit more expensive ($30/fifth).
Expensive -- Sazarac 18 (rye not bourbon) or Eagle Rare 18yr for bourbon.
Good Tasting, My Friend.
Willet is making the best stuff right now, in my opinion. They're involved in Rowan's Creek, which someone mentioned above. My favorite is their brand name stuff:
I lived in the land of Bourbon for a number of years, and if you really want a good one and money isn't tight, try the Pappy VanWinkle 23 year. Fantastic stuff but the last I looked, a fifth was in the $80 range. For more manageable pricing, you can't go wrong with Woodford Reserve.
Because it was Keith Richard's favorite. Made sense to me at the time. Even though I did not try everythning that Keith Richard tried just because Keith Richard did it. I think it was just "product placement" before anybody had invented the term. Rebel Yell was also nearly impossible to find north of the Mason-Dixon line, which made it all the more attractive.
This is such a tasty thread, with such good sugestions.
Only thing is, boys and girls, I don't plan on many sobbing weekends of teary bourbons. I was thinking more in terms of choices for victory cigars. We had two freshman QB's last year, and went 4-0 until Tate got hurt. Tate's freshmanness was not the problem. We can put serviceable CB's on the field, and win games.
Expensive, but worth every penny.
Pappy Van Winkles 15 year old if you are on a budget.
Both are 98 points at the Beverage Tasting Institute. The 12 year old Special Reserve was a 99 point bourbon.
Basil Hayden's is too light for me, not a great bourbon at its price point. I feel the same way about Blantons, although it is certainly tasty. For drinking straight, I'm a fan of Eagle Rare, Buffalo Trace, and the new Maker's 46. On the rocks, my current favorites are Wild Turkey Rare Breed and Kentucky Spirit, as well as Bakers. I discovered that Kentucky Spirit is in fact smooth enough to drink straight when your starting corner's ankle explodes.
Note that "on the rocks" should mean "one or two cubes" and I tolerate it mostly because it is so bloody hot down here in Arizona. Just enough to give light chill and take a little of the fire off of barrel proof (100+) bourbons, which are really made for drinking lightly diluted. Drinking good bourbon ice cold is a travesty - really murders a lot of the more subtle flavors.