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OT: ESPN OTL on CFB oversigning
For those of you that are interested, the ESPN show Outside the Lines is doing a piece on oversigning recruits in college football nowadays. It's on ESPN now (9am-930) after a lesbian story.
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December 19th, 2010 at 10:20 AM | Les Miles (Score:1)
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and LSU are classless I'm glad he didn't come to Michigan

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December 19th, 2010 at 10:25 AM | Seriously (Score:1)
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Fuck Les Miles

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December 19th, 2010 at 10:30 AM | Agreed. (Score:1)
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Anyone who thought or still thinks Les Miles should be associated with UM football needs to watch that piece.  Even if you take oversigning as necessary is the SEC, I can't believe he would publically bad mouth a kid like that a media day that Miles forced out the door.  Also can't believe he would have a meeting with a kid and say everything is going well when a decision had already been made to pull his scholarship.

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December 19th, 2010 at 12:04 PM | Apparently, not all who played for Bo (Score:1)
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heeded the lesson of integrity. Lloyd was right to loath him afterall.

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December 20th, 2010 at 12:27 AM | If you can get Rich quick (Score:1)
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Why settle for Les?

Posted from my Dell Venue Pro

Brilliant!

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December 19th, 2010 at 10:24 AM | At least they pointed out how (Score:1)
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At least they pointed out how the SEC is by far the worst offender, and mentioned that the Big Ten signs the least of the major conferences.

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December 19th, 2010 at 11:00 AM | Do the truffle shuffle. (Score:1)
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Do the truffle shuffle.

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December 19th, 2010 at 1:22 PM | Aww man, Fine! (Score:1)
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December 19th, 2010 at 6:38 PM | Woo! (Score:1)
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TRUFFLE SHUFFLE.gif

Shock the world
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December 19th, 2010 at 10:29 AM | How do they NOT mention Saban?!?!? (Score:1)
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Yeah, Nutt's 37 was noteworthy, and Miles certainly came off a dirt bag (meeting with a kid, saying nothing to him about cutting him, and the next day the kids gets a "goodbye" letter dated a week before the meeting...), but for the love of God...   where was National Champion Alabama??

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December 19th, 2010 at 10:30 AM | From 2008: Brian on oversigning (Score:1)
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Click Me

 

As usual, the blogosphere is useful for more than rumormongoring.  Many blolgs were on to this almost three years ago, including Brian.  It's taken the main stream media this long to make a stink about it?

Tradition is something you can't bottle.  But it is there to sustain you when you need it most.  I've called upon it time and time again.

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December 19th, 2010 at 10:34 AM | LSU (Score:1)
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They really hammered Les Miles and LSU, where’s the Alabama yellow hammer on Old Saint Nick Saban.  Well thank God the SEC set a cap at 28 so they only can fuck 3 kids a year. No wonder the ESS EEE SEE has the best conference, as Brian has said they get an extra class every 4 years…Hope B1G Ten rolls those fools this year. I’m surprised ESPN had the balls to air this.  

For the lazy. The last 4 years average recruits signed:

B1G Ten= 86

ACC= 89

PAC 10=90

Big East=92

Big XII= 97

ESS EEE SEE=103.

I hope the recruits see this and it doesn’t die out. GO B1G TEN.

Fuck it, Dude, let's go bowling.

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December 19th, 2010 at 10:38 AM | Anger (Score:1)
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Nothing gets me more upset than that video of the kid, in tears, who had to move out of the dorms in August after working out all summer at LSU.  These jerks, who make millions, couldn't be interviewed?  Unbelievable cowardice.

And I still say no, ESPN still isn't really taking this seriously.  Bob Ley gives Houston Nutt a pass on his comment about signing 80 kids by saying "oh, that quote was just a joke."  Well, the joke isn't funny, Bob.

Grrrr.

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December 19th, 2010 at 11:32 AM | hmmm... (Score:1)
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I didn't respect the SEC before (that Michigan record versus the SEC allows it)...I detested their idiot fanbases and I resented their arrogance (see Newton, Cameron). If it's possible I like them less now.

If the haters don't hate you then you're doing something wrong. - David Cone

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December 19th, 2010 at 11:55 AM | Love the irony of the (Score:1)
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Love the irony of the "Alabama - People of Compassion" sign in the background.

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December 19th, 2010 at 12:02 PM | Dickhead! (Score:1)
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How appropriate.

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December 19th, 2010 at 10:54 AM | The recruits don't care (Score:1)
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Every recruit thinks he is a world-beater and won't be one of those who get fucked.  On a side note, I was trying to find a nicer way to express this, and I couldn't.  There is no way to sugarcoat or justify what goes on there.   

 

 

 

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December 19th, 2010 at 11:43 AM | Recruits could go a lot (Score:1)
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Recruits could go a lot further with even a small dose of humility/reality.

Great line, and it applies to more than just recruits.

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December 19th, 2010 at 12:47 PM | Hubris meet nemesis (Score:1)
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Unbridled arrogance often leads to a downfall. Such a humiliatingly swift descent that should humble the pompous if they are smart enough to learn from the experience.



It never ceases to amaze me how often this happens. Life has a tendency to deflate overinflated balloons.

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December 20th, 2010 at 1:00 AM | How many people remember (Score:1)
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How many people remember being 17? I do, I was arrogant as hell and I couldn't even run fast. College tends to humble kids when they find out there are a lot of other people more talented/smart/athletic than them.

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December 19th, 2010 at 12:58 PM | Absolutely (Score:1)
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That's because they've had their ass kissed for their entire football lives and in all likelyhood have benefitted from scewjobs. So they just assume it will continue and then they end up getting burned. They then end up leaving college and driving around with bottles of Grey Goose, AK-47's and bullett proof vests.

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December 19th, 2010 at 4:48 PM | . (Score:1)
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Don't forget about the lint roller.

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December 19th, 2010 at 11:54 PM | I will always +1 anyone (Score:1)
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I will always +1 anyone who remembers the lint roller!

The world looks better through maize mirror tint. 

Still waiting on backup.

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December 19th, 2010 at 4:24 PM | This has been stated numerous (Score:1)
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This has been stated numerous times but I'll say it again.  The yearly maximum of 25 or 28 in the SEC is not the issue for over-signing.  It is the total scholarship limit of 85.  25 + 25 + 25 + 25 > 85 and that is without even considering 5th year seniors or the 3 extra allowed by the SEC. 

It seems like every year teams like Alabama need to find 10-15 players to get rid of after signing their classes.  They get part way with non-qualifiers, then they start looking at the injured and recently arrested, and then if they are still over the limit, the true cuts begin.

Planning for some of this might be considered prudent rather than being 10 scholarships under the 85 like Michigan seems to be lately, but by conference rule Big Ten teams aren't allowed to follow this practice and can only hand out open scholarships.

I see the whole thing as creating a non-level playing field for the teams that don't over-sign.  SEC teams can take a flier on as many marginal qualifiers as they want but teams like Michigan know that taking a player at risk like Demar Dorsey might mean having less than a full team of scholarship players going into a season.  When some of these players do make it, the result is advantage SEC.

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December 19th, 2010 at 10:33 AM | Ironic (Score:1)
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I thought it was strange that the show focused on LSU and didn't even mention Alabama.  Saban must be known a "satan" for a reason....

Nobody home...

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December 19th, 2010 at 10:44 AM | I thought that the comment (Score:1)
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I thought that the comment that the story "followed a show about Lesbians" was even stranger.  

 

 

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December 19th, 2010 at 10:52 AM | posted from iPhone (Score:1)
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But somehow necessary.

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December 19th, 2010 at 11:14 AM | You mean it wasn't a feature (Score:1)
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about followers of Les Miles?

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December 19th, 2010 at 1:26 PM | Les-bians (Score:1)
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December 19th, 2010 at 11:33 AM | Must be the oversignings theme (Score:1)
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and our fantasies of multiple women in our bed.

Not that there's anything wrong with that

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December 19th, 2010 at 11:36 AM | not that there's anything wrong with that... (Score:1)
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December 19th, 2010 at 11:59 AM | NSFH! (Score:1)
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NSFH!

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December 19th, 2010 at 11:54 AM | Don't ask, don't tell.NM* (Score:1)
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Gh

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December 19th, 2010 at 12:08 PM | I thought that the comment (Score:1)
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I thought that the comment that the story "followed a show about Lesbians" was even stranger.

Nah, not so creepy if you tuned in.  The first 15 minutes of the OTL episode was quite literally a story about a lesbian (Soccer coach that was fired for being a lesbian at a Christian school yadda yadda yadda).  I was just trying to get the message out that it was worth bearing through the first 15 minutes to get to a story that I'm pretty sure we all find a little more interesting. Although, if the story was about the two girls above, it would've been a different story.

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December 19th, 2010 at 5:47 PM | To be fair (Score:1)
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I think this blog is more than willing to tune into 25 minutes of lesbianism (for multiple reasons) before watching an interesting news piece

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December 19th, 2010 at 10:53 AM | That is due to the horrible (Score:1)
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That is due to the horrible luck of Saban's recruits getting hurt before their first year. Poor guy is really cursed with the injury bug.

 

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December 19th, 2010 at 10:47 AM | Secondary Violations (Score:1)
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Also with the new secondary violations/suspensions for coaches, well see how our good friends the Kiffins/Tressel “Sorry we made a boo-boo again” habitual offenders quit self-reporting themselves. Tom Izzo has already received a one game suspension from the new rule.  

Fuck it, Dude, let's go bowling.

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December 19th, 2010 at 12:16 PM | Izzo (Score:1)
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I think that man would take having an advantage recruiting a kid over coaching against Prairie View A&M any day of the week

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December 19th, 2010 at 12:09 PM | I agree with (Score:1)
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the overall message of this thread. Treating a young man, no matter how inflated his ego may be, like commodity without being at least upfront about it is morally wrong. I'm sure this carries a consequence of being a burden on the offenders conscience. Afterall karma's a b!tch right?

Now I have something to add that may be a bit silly. I can't resist though. I was in Panama City, FL (I know). For spring break one year. One of the nights at the beachside nightclub was particularly packed. On said night out of nowhere a chant of "S! E! C!" started up. Then, out of nowhere, it turned into, "F#CK OHIO STATE! F#CK OHIO STATE! Childish I know. I live in Columbus and constantly have a to hear about how "great" OS...Who? is. So I joined in the chant and loved every second of it. GO BLUE!

Sorry, had to share.

GO BLUE. The team. The team. The team.

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December 19th, 2010 at 1:18 PM | COOL STORY BRO (Score:1)
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December 19th, 2010 at 5:45 PM | Aw (Score:1)
Geaux_Blue
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I remember my first beer (that preceded making an annoying comment on a rivals blog that I felt the need to unsuccessfully mock)

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December 19th, 2010 at 1:14 PM | I think they didn't mention (Score:1)
blueinwestlansing
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I think they didn't mention Saban because he's more of a "take your scholarship away after you get hurt, and force you to transfer.

those who stay will be champions

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December 19th, 2010 at 1:28 PM | Has anyone seen the new (Score:1)
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Has anyone seen the new Sportscenter commercial with Les Miles "recruiting" people to work for ESPN and laughed at the irony?

"The trouble with quotes on the internet, is that it is often difficult to discern whether or not they are genuine" --Abraham Lincoln

@Sambojangles

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December 19th, 2010 at 1:41 PM | OTL Video (Score:1)
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Not sure if this is the whole segment, but the video is available here: http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=5935634&categoryid=3286128

daveheal.com

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December 19th, 2010 at 2:25 PM | Thanks for posting.  I was (Score:1)
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Thanks for posting.  I was getting ready to look for a replay of the segment on TV.  Now I don't have to.

I was encouraged to hear Terry Bowden's comments.  I always viewed TB (and all the Bowdens) as a bit of a shady coach, but maybe I had him mis-characterized.  Maybe his moral compass is straighter than I thought.

"Being ready is not what matters. What matters is winning after you get there."

(Lieutenant General Victor H. Krulak, USMC, April 1965.)

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December 19th, 2010 at 3:23 PM | The SEC is dirtier than a dirt sandwich (Score:1)
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And that's pretty dirty.

Christ in me arise and dispel all the darkness.

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December 19th, 2010 at 6:00 PM | Sabanetski is soooo on the payroll at ESPgrin. (Score:1)
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Sabanetski is soooo on the payroll at ESPgrin.


"Don't stop your feet on contact!"

-Brady Hoke

Newsflash, if we don't win Rose Bowl '13 we will have little choice but to lay the blame on Kate Upton.  That is all!

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December 19th, 2010 at 7:09 PM | So what happens with (Score:1)
MichiganFootball
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So what happens with oversigning is pretty bad, but it apparently used to be even worse

Below is a book review that desribes what things used to be at Texas in the days Darrell Royal.  In the days of 100 scholarships they would have 45 freshman every year and they would get heaviliy winnowed down.  Among other things, anyone who wasn't first or second string was denied medical attention.  And if you fell below the fourth team, you got kicked out from regular practice and were sent to to drills that had the goal of getting to people to either cut themsleves or inducing injuries that would get you off the team. 

http://residualprolixity.blogspot.com/2010/12/book-review-meat-on-hoof.html

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December 19th, 2010 at 7:50 PM | SEC has always been dead serious over its football (Score:1)
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The problem is that it has always let things go too far.

As far as main stream sports reporting goes - wining is the elixir that makes looking the other way easier.  This is not new.  It has been this way for a long, long time.  

EDIT:  ESPN's contract with and lover affair over the SEC puts them at a whole different level of "looking away".

Wolverine Nation Unite!

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December 20th, 2010 at 3:35 AM | After seeing stuff like this (Score:1)
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Is it wrong that I hope the SEC suffers a worse fate than did the SWC?

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