Filling out the new 2012 day planner (thanks wifey) with the Mich Hoop Rock schedule and noticed Feb 5th is going to be one solid day of sports. Kicking off (literally) with Chelsea vs ManU, then Mich vs Mich State on the hardwood and a decent little nightcap with the Super Bowl.
Can anyone else recall a multi-sport-smorgasbord day of awesomeness like this?
Yes
kick off time
I always remember the Rose Bowl as a 5pm kickoff.
Go Blue!
Orange Bowl and...
Sugar Bowl were always the late games.
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Yeah. The Orange Bowl and the Ernie Sieler half time show that never seemed to end.
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Not days, but i can think of weekends
Earlier this year, UFC 126 Silva vs Belfort was on February 5, then the Super Bowl was the next day.
Arguably, UFC always ends around midnight for those on the east coast (I'm pissed that they will be starting them at 10 again instead of 9), so it was a crazy 24 hours for me.
UFC is also planning UFC 143 Diaz vs Condit on February 4 for next years Super Bowl weekend! =)
He said sports.
...in case
He said sports.
...in case you misunderstand, I'm just kidding :) I also have the privilege of having Feb 6 as my birthday, so Super Bowls are almost always on or around it. Actually it kind of sucks because people are already having parties. But maybe if/when the Lions make it someone will give me a generous birthday gift?
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Soccer and Epic?
I can't get into a game that ends 0-0 ....
I'd be more excited for a full day of March Madness ... watching Michigan smash someone ... hoping like hell Ohio State and Michigan State get their ass beat ... and then the excitement of a bunch of upsets all day long!!
A: Less than 5% of games end
A: Less than 5% of games end scoreless.
B: nobody cares about your opinion about soccer.
C: does it ever fail for someone to but themselves into a conversation about soccer (maybe only tangentially about soccer) and proclaim their disdain for the world's most popular sport?
CoE Class of 2007
Thats True
It is the worlds most popular sport, but it is quite unpopular in the US .. hence the low turnouts to the MLS games.
True again ... most games do not end 0-0 ... usually 1-1 or 2-1
I'm not trying to make you mad ... just to me a 1-1 soccer game is as exciting as a 3-3 football game ... if they get crazy and the score gets to 2-1 ... it feels like a 6-3 football game.
Don't get me worng ... there are people who love a 6-3 football game
while you're entitled to your opinion....
Your mindset about the popularity of soccer isn't current...MLS's average attendance is the 4th best of any US pro league...it's ahead of the NHL among others...
You're not making me mad or anything, I just want to make sure that people who haven't made up their mind on the issue yet have the right info...
Counting Mexicans
That is counting Mexicans at the LA games. I played soccer and am married to a Brazilian. Unless it is world cup or I am visiting the in-laws (and they would shoot me dead if I didn't watch) I would rather watch table tennis. BORING
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average attendance, meaning
average attendance, meaning average number of fans in a venue for a game? or percentage of capacity? it wouldn't be a shocker if there are more fans on average at an mls game, when for example, the bruins play in a 17,565 seat arena, while the revs play in a 68,756 seat stadium (which goes with a listed capacity of 22,385 for soccer to keep the percentage looking better).
I'd still love to see your sources.
Actually MLS is now #3
This article from sports business journal claims that MLS now has the third highest attendance, passing the NBA last year. Those numbers are boosted by Seattle, which sells out its allotment of 40,000 tickets every game and even opened their upper decks to sell ~65k for a couple games. It's also boosted by the other two Pacific NW franchises, which operate at full capacity.
You have a good point about % of capacity. The MLS is really similar to the NBA and NHL where about half of its franchises sell at or near 100% of their tickets (for MLS, Pac NW franchises, Galaxy, KC, Toronto, Philly, SLC, presumably Montreal), about a quarter have middling attendance and then the last quarter are real dogs (Dallas, San Jose, etc)
numbers
Unsurprisingly, the googles finds an obsessive who tracks MLS attendance by percentage of capacity. My previous post was off on San Jose. It basically breaks down like this in terms of percentage (and these percentages don't tell the whole story, since there are facilities with as few as 11,000 seats [San Jose] and as many as 38,500 [Seattle]. This means the team with the highest percentage (San Jose @ 115%) also has the lowest average attendance)...
Teams with greater than 90%: 7 (Philly, Portland, San Jose, Seattle, KC, Toronto, Vancouver)
Teams between 75-90: 4 (Galaxy [with 23k avg.], Colorado, SLC, NYRB)
Teams below that: 7 (Chicago, Chivas [54%!], Columbus, DC, Dallas, Houston [still avging 17,700], NE)
One of the interesting things is that only KC and San Jose, of the original franchises, draws in the top group, with 4 of the original franchises making up the bottom of the table.
http://mlsattendance.blogspot.com/2011/10/final-attendance-update.html
Thanks for sharing the data--
Thanks for sharing the data-- very interesting stuff. I'll still keep being bitter towards the MLS until they give Rochester a franchise. (They said build a soccer specific stadium, and you'll get a team; we did, they didn't follow through. Bastards.)
I know I'm a jaded puckhead, but I really do feel like going forward the NBA has more to worry about than the NHL, with the lockout increasing the odds that fans won't want to pony up hundreds of dollars to see the 3rd unit play, since the teams could be playing their 3rd game in 4 days.
Interesting Stuff
I just don't think that Metro Detroit or Michigan for that matter could support an mls franchise. Until then I don't have a team to root for and therefore no interest.
MLS vs NHL
I've really gotten into soccer since I bought fifa 06 way back in the day and every installation since. However I still can't watch MLS because it isn't the top league. I love me some USA mens national team and watch them even when they play concacaf bottom feeders. The only club soccer i can watch is premier league or euro league.
NHL on the other hand is completely different. It is a much more niche sport than soccer. It is really only popular in USA, Canada, Northern and Central Europe. I think the NHL did itself a huge disservice by expanding into southern markets.
As far as a scoring
As far as a scoring comparison is concerned it's probably more on par with hockey than football.
You do realize that......
a 14 to 7 football game might have been 2-1 had not Walter Camp (a former soccer player btw) tinkered with different values for different methods of scoring?
All right Lemmings. Bring the heat.
Okay? How does that apply to
Okay? How does that apply to watching soccer today vs football today?
EDIT: So because some guy back in the day that had something to do with soccer changed the rules of football, that makes soccer more interesting to watch today?
No....
Camp's influence in football has nothing to do with the popularity of soccer today.
However, that was just an aside to my post, the actual point of which is that 14-7 football games are not much different than 2-1 soccer games, in response to those that argue that soccer is boring because it is low scoring.
Next time.... follow along.
All right Lemmings. Bring the heat.
I see your point
However, 14-7 in football is nothing like 2-1 in soccer because of thing called field goals and point after conversions (1 or 2). In football you can win 10-7 but in soccer there is no fraction of a goal.
14-7 games in football are
14-7 games in football are completely different, as the other guy stated. The two sports can't really be compared on any level. Some people prefer football to soccer, and vice versa, for legitimate reasons. Maybe next time you could try to make a valid point without sounding like a douchebag.
No one is comparing.......
the fucking sports.
It's a simple statement..... 14 to 7 is two scores to one. I'm ignoring the PAT.... because it's worth ignoring. The PAT is made 99% of the time.
If anyone on this board attempted to argue that a 14 to 7 football game is boring just because it was low scoring, they'd get roasted. However, we can't bring up soccer without someone going out of their way to let everyone know that they hate soccer. Why do they hate it? Because it's boring........... And why is it boring? Because not enough goals are scored.........
Ignorance brings out my inner douchebaggery.
All right Lemmings. Bring the heat.
You just compared the sports....
But whatever. Aren't you forgetting field goals?
Anyway, that's beside the main point. Yes, people say they don't like soccer because it's boring, and it's boring because it's low-scoring. Perhaps that is over-simplifying it.
The difference between a low-scoring soccer game and a low-scoring football game is that soccer is almost always low-scoring. Aside from that, I'd rather watch dominating football defenses beat the tar out of the other team's offense than watch a bunch of guys pass a ball around a field for 90 minutes. (OK, there's more to it than that, but it's not interesting enough to me to break it down any further). Call it ignorance or whatever else you want, but you're not changing my opinion about it.
Your opinion is irrelevant.....
I have no desire to change the opinion of those that don't like soccer. They have that freedom. However, people who do enjoy soccer should also be free to have a discussion about it without some jackhole intervening to let everyone know that it is his opinion that soccer sucks.
All right Lemmings. Bring the heat.
I guess 25 million americans
I guess 25 million americans watching the World Cup finale makes the sport pretty unpopular.
Or perhaps the fact that the audience for the Champions League finale has increased by 1000% over the past decade would shed some light on the situation.
"Soccer continues to draw an impressively young audience. Saturday’s match earned a 1.8 among Men 18-34 on FOX, which is +29% higher than the HH rating. It’s exceptionally rare for a sports event to be that much stronger among the younger demo than it is overall."
http://theoriginalwinger.com/2011-06-02-uefa-champions-league-final-us-tv-ratings-up-91
Tenim un nom el sap tothom. Barca, Barca, BAAARCA!
Screw the world, this is America.
Just kidding, I really have nothing against soccer. I enjoy playing it, and while I almost never watch a game on TV by myself, I'll watch intently if someone puts it on and will enjoy yelling at the TV.
Yep, that's Simba made out of a pineapple.
ointment for your bum
this post isn't about soccer, it's about a great sports day, and lists 3 events. He's saying he disagrees that one of these is epic, and gives his reason. People are free to agree or disagree, but it's hardly anything to get upset about. And certainly no cause to say 'come at me bro
March Madnes
That first weekend of March Madness is always exciting.
Those who leave will be losers!!
Same Sport Days
Not to change the subject, but opine on the matter, I love days filled with the same sport. For instance I seem to lose interest in the summer sport baseball when Fall football rolls around. This is not to say I don't love me some great MLB playoff/world series games. But to my point, I love the opening weekend of March Madness and New Years day (January 2nd this year) that are jam packed with intense games all day long (same sport obviously). It's hard for me to watch a great 6 hours of football then try to get amped for a baseball game in the same night. Moar football for me!
My opinion can of course be skewed as I'm not as in to as many of the other "sports" easily accessible to and around now-a-days.
A few years back in June
A few years back in June there if I can remember correctly--
World cup soccer all day
French Open
Triple Crown finale- war emblem lost
Stanley cup finals- wings won in OT
Lennox Lewis - Holyfield
I'll take new years day/Jan
I'll take new years day/Jan 2nd bowls over anything else. March madness opening rounds are pretty incredible too.
No New Year's Day bowls this
No New Year's Day bowls this year. How is that possible?
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Nobody will schedule bowl games when there are nfl games being played, they don't want to try to beat their tv ratings
Wait, wait. I am confuse. I
Wait, wait. I am confuse. I know you said "sports", but what exactly are you suggesting is going to happen between Manu Ginobili and some chick named Chelsea on this particular day?
First thing that came to my mind...
Oct. 2nd of this year when the Lions came back from a 24 point deficit to beat the Cowboys, and later that day the Tigers beat the Yankees in NY. When the Yankees and Cowboys lose on the same day it is a pretty good day, but when the teams from Detroit are responsible for those loses, even better!
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January 1st (or 2nd this year) is always a good one...especially with the addition of the winter classic.
And the first two days of march madness.
313 yards and a cloud of dust
Not a single day... But
Not a single day...
But last year there were 4 classicos in a 2 week span. And Barca won 3 of them. That was epic.
Tenim un nom el sap tothom. Barca, Barca, BAAARCA!
Whenever Michigan plays a
Whenever Michigan plays a football game, that's pretty much a perfectly whole day for me.
THIS
Also,
The first weekend of March Madness > Everything
Soccer... is awful
just opinions
NOMNOMNOMNOM
i would rather have explosive diarreah all day on christmas than watch soccer. but thts just me
They do the talkin...I do the walkin.
-Charles Woodson
January 2nd Bowls
How are they not played on New Years this year?
NFL games on Sunday.
Rilvary weekend in CFB,
Rilvary weekend in CFB, especially when we lead it off by defeating Ohio State.
M'Dog
I'll be looking forward
to that M-MSU match. :)
I simply don't get this. Why
I simply don't get this. Why can't people say what their favorite sports day would be without bashing on soccer? It's actually quite fascinating.
For example, my favorite sports day would involve:
Michigan Basketball in the final four
Tigers opening day
I don't need to go out of my way to pine about how much I hate NASCAR. So the question is, why do people go out of their way to complain about soccer? Is there some subconcious need to put down a popular thing? Is it the false conception that the game is not physical? (American football and hockey are really the only major sports more physical) Is it some desire to ignore the fact that it is growing at a steady and sustainable rate in the States? I don't get it.
CoE Class of 2007
I like soccer quite a lot,
I like soccer quite a lot, but soccer fans (American anyway) are the most defensive fans I've seen. What do I care how much someone else hates the EPL?
When they used to play the big bowl games on the same day and the Rose Bowl was the late one. It happened every year.
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