OT: (Edit) Chip Kelly to the Browns? Cleveland media now reporting "expect an announcement tonight"

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OT: (Edit) Chip Kelly to the Browns? Cleveland media now reporting "expect an announcement tonight"

Yesterday evening local Cleveland radio reported that Kelly to the Browns was a virtual certainty and while he's going to talk to both the Eagles and the Bills today, by tonight there will be an announcement of his hire.  Tony Grossi of ESPN Cleveland said he would be very surprised if this doesnt happen today and that the team is "backing up the brinks truck" to make this happen.

http://espncleveland.com/common/more.php?m=49&action=blog&r=19&post_id=1...

But even if Chip doesn't end up here it seems a virtual certainty he'd coming to the NFL next year and he's going to run "his" offense in the pro's.  Lots and lots of discussion around here concerning his system and if it can work given the roster size he'll have to work with and the potential for QB injury.   And in Cleveland the roster will need to revamped (Brandon Weedon is NOT a spread QB) to function properly but it sure looks like the Brownies are about to take the plunge.

Personally I think it will work - at least at first - simply because it will be so radically different than anything the other teams practice for each week.  The Patriots have incorporated elements of his tempo and the Redskins and Panthers run variations of the spread but no team yet has gone "all in" on the uptempo spread offense.  Until now.  Spread QBs can be had pretty cheap (I'm thinking Alex Smith running the show) and other spread-type players (linemen/slot receivers) are also not terribly valued in the NFL so putting together the roster on offense shouldn't require a lot of cap space.  Leaving lots of room for spending on the defense where it will be surely needed.

Will it work?  I think so and for the first time in the last 10 years or so I'm actually excited about Cleveland Browns football.  My only question is if he comes will we have to start wearing alternate jersey's and helmets every week?

EDIT: Cleveland Plain Dealer Browns beat report Mary Kay Cabot is now reporting that the Browns and Kelly are meeting again tonight and has been told by sources inside the Browns organization to expect an announcement tonight.  For those of you unfamiliar with Grossi or Cabot they are NOTHING like the Detroit sports media and if they report something like this you can generally count on it actually happening.

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2013/01/cleveland_browns_meeti...

 

 

 

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January 5th, 2013 at 10:59 AM | They had some Oregon beat (Score:2)
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They had some Oregon beat reporter on WKNR the other day and someone (Rizzo?) asked if Kelly runs his practices like NFL practices.  The guy said he has covered NFL teams in the past and that Kellys practices are better than the NFL practices he has seen.

Excited if the Brownies get him.

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January 5th, 2013 at 11:01 AM | Cleveland almost always says they're going to get someone (Score:3 Normal)
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Remember when they were so sure they were going to get Izzo? And remember somehow that was going to convince LeBron to stay in Cleveland? Yeah, I'll believe anything out of Cleveland sports media when I see it.

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January 5th, 2013 at 11:10 AM | You must be listening to (Score:5 Normal)
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You must be listening to other Cleveland media than I do. What I hear is the unrelenting pessimism that years of unrelenting losing has created. I don't remember anybody here saying we were going to get Izzo (I think that was more from the Detroit media) and that he would somehow save Lebron (we were hoping beyond hope he'd stay)



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January 5th, 2013 at 3:36 PM | This. (Score:3 Normal)
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I grew up on Cleveland sports across the Lake and listening to WKNR (excepting the Ohio honks) for my Tribe and Browns coverage. Supporting Cleveland teams is not the work of optimists and any idiot that would provide that sort of coverage would get destroyed in Cleveland. This is the town of 'the drive', 'the shot', Red Right '88, 'the decision', Jose freaking Mesa etc. etc. Instead, of optimism I find the Cleveland media's coverage more akin to waiting for the other shoe to drop (since it inevitably always does).

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January 5th, 2013 at 4:04 PM | I still remember quite clearly Sipe throwing the INT (Score:2)
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Combine that with The Drive and The Fumble, and that's a lifetime of sports agony right there.


January 5th, 2013 at 1:17 PM | Bill Cowher (Score:1)
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Bill Cowher bought a house in Strongsville.

January 5th, 2013 at 11:05 AM | Weird roster (Score:1)
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To take over if you are Kelly...no qb, a power RB, and really not many other great players...

Denard Robinson......They're not going to catch him!

January 5th, 2013 at 11:28 AM | Don't forget, Kelly was the (Score:4 Normal)
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Don't forget, Kelly was the OC at Oregon when Blount was playing there, so he's no stranger to making use of a power RB. Any coach worth his salt will figure out a way to use someone like Richardson.

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January 5th, 2013 at 1:27 PM | And unlike Blount, Richardson (Score:1)
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And unlike Blount, Richardson actually catches the ball, which makes him even more dangerousl. Kelly's a smarty guy, I think he could definitely tweak his offense to fit the pieces they already have and find a way to make it work. Can't be any worse than any recent Browns offense I've watched.

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January 6th, 2013 at 12:58 AM | Well, if Kelly goes to the (Score:1 Offtopic)
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Well, if Kelly goes to the NFL... There is one Denard Robinson that will be available in this draft...

January 5th, 2013 at 11:09 AM | Kelly (Score:1 Normal)
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I wouldn't him coaching my NFL team.  He beats run of the mil Pac 10 teams now with raw speed.  He may catch some NFL teams off guard for a while but the NFL is good at figuring out new stuff.

January 5th, 2013 at 11:37 AM | he just beat the pants off of (Score:2)
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he just beat the pants off of a really good k-state team.

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January 5th, 2013 at 1:17 PM | A good Kansas State team with (Score:4 Normal)
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A good Kansas State team with a pretty terrible defense...

January 5th, 2013 at 11:09 AM | I don't think Kelly's system (Score:2 Normal)
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I don't think Kelly's system will work in the NFL.  Everyone is quick.  However, I am assuming he is going to put wrinkles in his offense to adapt.  Furthermore, the Browns are a much worse fit for him than the Eagles would be if he is going to run a similar offense like he did at Oregon.  The Eagles have a much more explosive team that the Browns do.  Take the Eagles job, Chip.

January 5th, 2013 at 11:13 AM | While I agree (Score:1)
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The eagles position makes a little more sense, I think Kelly is not going to be able to bring his exact system from Oregon to the nfl, some sort of spread will work in the nfl, it is already there, in a variety of forms. Ultimately, he'll probably do what a lot of college coaches have done, struggle, especially in Cleveland.

Denard Robinson......They're not going to catch him!

January 5th, 2013 at 1:02 PM | Why would anyone want to (Score:1)
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Why would anyone want to coach the Eagles.  I get it, there are only 32 spots, so they're all fairly highly coveted.  

Philadelphia is a top 5 market in the US, but the owner is notoriously cheap.  I know he makes a splash once in a while with a high profile free agent, but for the most part he doesn't spend.  Before the 2012 season began, the Eagles had more cap space than 26 other NFL franchises.  

According to Forbes' 2012 valuations, they're also the 7th most valuable NFL franchise.  

http://www.forbes.com/nfl-valuations/

He has the incoming revenue to spend, but it seems like he's pocketing that cash.  Move on, take another one of those spots.  He's gained the leverage.  He should use it.  

January 5th, 2013 at 1:19 PM | His O may take time to (Score:3 Normal)
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His O may take time to establish...Philly fans aren't patient.  Browns fans...what's the alternative?  I like the move to Cleveland (or Buffalo) personally.

Touchdown Michigan!

January 5th, 2013 at 11:19 AM | No (Score:0 Normal)
January 5th, 2013 at 2:15 PM | Try Lovie Smith (Score:2)
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9 years in Chicago, great defense, but it gets old after a while when your offense can't do anything.

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January 5th, 2013 at 11:10 AM | Brandon Weeden not a spread (Score:5 Normal)
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Brandon Weeden not a spread QB? There are different types of spread offenses, and while he may not fit Kelly's offense, he came from a program that ran spread and rewrote record books.

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January 5th, 2013 at 11:24 AM | I'm quoting weedon himself. (Score:0 Trolling)
January 5th, 2013 at 11:48 AM | Why is Weeden worried?   He's (Score:4 Normal)
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Why is Weeden worried?   He's young.  He has time to learn and mature under a new offensive system.   He's....wait....what...29?    Time to call Chris Weinke for some career advice.

 

January 5th, 2013 at 2:28 PM | Of course he can't run (Score:1)
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Of course he can't run Kelly's system now because he can't run, but don't you think Kelly would tweak it to look more like the O Weeden ran in college?

January 5th, 2013 at 11:12 AM | I just keep hoping to see (Score:2 Normal)
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I just keep hoping to see Brian Kelly to the NFL..

January 5th, 2013 at 11:14 AM | Given his career trajectory (Score:2)
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Given his career trajectory so far, I'd bet it's just a matter of time.

January 5th, 2013 at 11:22 AM | this season...sometime before (Score:1)
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this season...sometime before signing day. i'm sure there is a couple guys we could poach lol.

January 5th, 2013 at 11:13 AM | I wouldn't fear the alternate (Score:2)
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I wouldn't fear the alternate uniforms; their standard getup really can't get any worse.

January 5th, 2013 at 4:05 PM | I do think it's funny he's going from Oregon's uniforms (Score:1)
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To the Penn State of the NFL.

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January 5th, 2013 at 11:13 AM | Why would he leave Oregon? (Score:3 Normal)
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Can't say he's accomplished everything there is to accomplish at the college level. Can't help but think Kelly knows the hammer's about to drop on the Oregon program.

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January 5th, 2013 at 11:32 AM | Sanctions are a coming. (Score:2 Normal)
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Sanctions are a coming.

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January 5th, 2013 at 12:40 PM | He must be really afraid of (Score:2)
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He must be really afraid of those sanctions, because he sounds like he wants out.  Agreeing to interview with three different franchises (at the height of the recruiting season, no less) suggests that he must not be happy in Eugene.

January 5th, 2013 at 2:31 PM | The problem is, if the (Score:4 Normal)
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The problem is, if the accusations turn out to be true then oregon would have to fire him. Because it means he knowingly deceived both the university and the NCAA. I'm sure he could still get another job after that. But his stock would plummet. He leaves now, and no one will bat an eye when the violations come down. As long as he is winning with his new team. See Pete Carrol.

Those Who Stay...

January 5th, 2013 at 11:18 AM | Don't think the Eagles are after Kelly (Score:2 Insightful)
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i know some media have reported that but being in Philly, i think that's off base with what Lurie is looking for.  He wants a guy who will bring in great coordinators and with no NFL experience I dont think Kelly is going to get those established coordinators.

January 5th, 2013 at 11:21 AM | They're interviewing Kelly (Score:2)
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They're interviewing Kelly today, so obviously they're interested. The word is they think the Browns have him virtually locked up, so they're lining up alternatives.

January 5th, 2013 at 11:19 AM | Correction: Brandon Weeden IS (Score:2)
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Correction: Brandon Weeden IS a spread QB. That's how he made his money at Oklahoma State. He's not a read option QB.



As a Browns fan, I like the move because I think he will create a system that utilizes his talent to the utmost, unlike previous coaches that have forced a system on the current personnel, results be damned. I don't think our current personnel fits the Oregon system very well, but getting a guard like Warmack in the draft and a speed back would go a long way in easing the transition.

January 5th, 2013 at 11:30 AM | Made his money at Oklahoma (Score:1)
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Made his money at Oklahoma State? Something seems wrong here...

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January 5th, 2013 at 11:31 AM | Report is Kelly already (Score:2 Normal)
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Report is Kelly already reached out to McCoy and said he'd be his QB.

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January 5th, 2013 at 11:36 AM | I was really confused by this (Score:1)
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I was really confused by this comment until I realized Colt McCoy was on the Browns....thought you were talking about LeSean on the Eagles.  

January 5th, 2013 at 12:10 PM | Makes sense (Score:1)
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Weeden is a pick machine (even at OSU he made bad decisions he got away with). McCoy has good mobility and could do some zone-read if needed. Spread the field, give him options, and then have Richardson plow through a spread out D.



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January 5th, 2013 at 12:47 PM | @ Swazi - correction: it was (Score:1)
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@ Swazi - correction: it was Brown's CEO Joe Banner that told McCoy that he was in the next head coach's plans.

http://espncleveland.com/common/more.php?m=49&action=blog&r=19&post_id=1...

 

January 5th, 2013 at 11:22 AM | I thought the eagles were a (Score:1)
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I thought the eagles were a better fit.This has failure written all over it.

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January 5th, 2013 at 11:27 AM | How? (Score:1)
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How are the Eagles a better fit? Can't run a read option with no O-Line. McCoy is a nice back, but Vick is all but gone from there.

January 5th, 2013 at 11:30 AM | Lesean McCoy,Desean (Score:1)
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Lesean McCoy,Desean Jackson,and a healthy Michael Vick.That sounds like speed to me.

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January 5th, 2013 at 11:34 AM | Very doubtful that Vick is (Score:1)
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Very doubtful that Vick is back and why take a risk with a 33 year old guy who you have seen the best from?  Eagles owe him $3M in bonus money and no one thinks he'll survive a cut.  Plus, his future was tied to Reid and although he had a great 2010 season, DCs have figured him out and he has pretty much been mediocre.  

January 5th, 2013 at 11:52 AM | Foles or Weeden? (Score:1)
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Foles or Weeden to run the Chip Kelly offense?

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January 5th, 2013 at 11:43 AM | Ok (Score:0)
January 5th, 2013 at 4:13 PM | Eagles and Kelly (Score:1)
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From a longtime Birds fan, I would say that Kelly would be a good fit. The Eagles have skill position players (incl Vick) as well as a good offensive line when healthy. I think QB passing is not as critical in his scheme, which would make Vick-ish QB's more likely than NIck Foles (who seems to be a Joe Flacco with less accuracy, ie not good)

Per a couple of comments above

1) Lurie is not "cheap" per se. They were mostly smart in terms of cap management and usually came close to spending their max each year (while taking minimum hits). That is just good business imo. The GM (Howie Roseman) did eff up when he docked Mike Patterson some pay due to his AVM in his brain making him unable to play even when he went AMA to get on the field. For $150k that is pretty douchy, and maybe had Lurie's approval

2) The back story with Banner (Cleveland GM) is pretty interesting, as Lurie essentially threw him under the bus for some recent bad draft decisions, exonerating Roseman and Reid to some extent. I have a strong suspicion that Banner would really like to take it to the Eagles for that comment and a number of other reasons.

With all this being said, I think that the Browns are going to pay Kelly a premium for PR as much as anything. While I would prefer to take a chance on Kelly, I think it will be Mike McCoy vs other (someone unknown) to the Eagles and Kelly to Cleveland.

January 5th, 2013 at 11:25 AM | Browns Haters (Score:1 Normal)
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I love people who say the Browns suck, and have nobody. They actually have a solid but very young roster. Richardson played most the year with broken ribs. The receivers while young are talented. The lines on both sides are solid. We need a DB and a linebacker or two.



Now as for Kelly unless he has a modified offense with less read option he won't work in the NFL. Philly is a horrible fit because their O Line is horrible.

January 5th, 2013 at 11:29 AM | Not quite accurate (Score:1)
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The guys who ended up playing on the Oline by the end of the season were horrible.  We had 0 of 5 starters finish the season and have a pro bowl left tackle coming back next year.  So as they finished the season, yes they were terrible but what else would you expect from a line of 2nd stringers??

January 5th, 2013 at 11:39 AM | If you say so (Score:1)
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I had Vick and McCoy on my fantasy team and thus watched Philly often. All I saw was Vick getting punked and McCoy having no holes to run through.



Also Browns have a Pro Bowl LT who has gone every year a good center and RT



As for Vick he is gone. Philly doesn't want to pay him. He is injury prone. So sure he would fit the system until week 4 when he is out for 6-8 weeks.

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