Ken Berger reports that the clippers and celtics have reached an agreement to release Doc out of his contract and to sign with the Clippers for a 3 year, 21 million dollar deal. The celtics would recieve a 2015 1st round pick. However for now it seems as if Kevin Garnett is to remain a celtic....for now
OT: Doc Rivers to Clippers
Good draft to pick up an unprotected 1st rounder.
Last time the Clippers did thst it turned into Kyrie.
Man, didn't see this coming.
This is good news for the Clippers. Doc is a good coach. I'm not a Clipper fan, but I do hate the Lakers, so anything to help the Clips to steal a little of the limelight from the Lakers, is ok in my book.
...great deal for Clips...what did Celts get? Doesn't matter...Clips are still Lakers little brother.
The Celtics get the pick.
This move was an attempt to appease Chris Paul so that he will want to re-sign with the Clippers. The Clippers kind of had to do it if they want to remain legitimate for the next few years. I am not really sure why the Celtics did it. Do they figure they aren't a contender anymore so they can go out and get a less "elite" coach and pay him less? If that is the case, why don't they start trying to get rid of washed up Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, and a still valuable Rajon Rondo so that they can rebuild their roster. If they end up keeping those players but trading Rivers, it makes no sense at all for them as far as I can tell. A late 1st round pick in these pitiful drafts is not a good reason to trade one of the best coaches in the game.
The Celtics were very much trying to get rid of Garnett and probably Pierce.
rivers wanted out of boston from what i have read, so getting a 1st round pick isnt a bad deal for the celtics
for a guy you are eventually going to fire anyway? Not sure about that
How many guys drafted in the 1st round of last year's draft, especially the bottom 1/4 are worth of shit anyway? Late 1st round picks in the NBA are usually not very valuable these days. Hell, Cody Zeller will probably be picked in the top 13 picks and I wouldn't even want him on the Pistons roster.
Danny Ainge acquired Garnett for several bench Warmers....,
How is this trade bad? The Clips got a great coach for a late first round pick who may or may not ever be a starter.
But I think it's alright. Would have been better if they could have also traded Garnett for a younger body from the Clippers. This deal is essentially closing the door on the Paul Pierce era in Boston, which was likely already closed in the first place. In that sense, they traded a coach who was going to quit rather than just let him quit. So I think it makes perfect sense for the Celtics...
Oh, OK. I still think this is good for the Celtics. They were going to be a non-contender with a super expensive coach, who was gonna walk soon anyway. Now they can hire whoever they want while they rebuild, and they have an extra pick to do it with.
Since when do teams trade coaches in the same manner as players? Are there previous examples of this?
Pretty recently actually. I believe the Heat "traded" Stan Van Gundy to the Magic a few years ago.
Ernie Harwell was involved in a trade as well IIRC. So it's not just coaches
Not the NBA but believe Gruden went to Tampa for a couple 1st rd picks.
No one seems to remember that Doc was a mediocre coach, at best, before Garnett, Allen, and Rondo arrived in Boston. The Clips have talent but not on the same level as those Celtics teams.
You're right, I'm sure, that he was mediocre, but surely a coach can improve with experience? I'm a casual NBA fan and don't know the Celtics that well, but Bill Simmons is a nut and die-hard, and he seems to think Rivers has really developed into a quality coach.
ESPN had some additional details here - LINK
Regarding the Garnett situation, this was sort of interesting:
"One source with knowledge of the NBA's thinking told ESPN.com that the league does not intend to change its stance as expressed by Stern in multiple radio interviews Thursday, meaning that the league would view any subsequent trade agreement between the Celtics and Clippers involving Garnett to be part of the Rivers deal and thus in violation of league rules."
This also talks about the driving force behind this parting of ways as being, in part, Rivers' uncertainty that he could get himself prepared psychologically for a rebuilding period, from the sound of it. It also mentions that Danny Ainge had been trying to shop Paul Pierce and that Ainge is at least part of the push to use Rivers and Garnett to accumulate first-round talent.
Will be interesting to see how good a coach Rivers is without a strong veteran team. I've always been dubious of the guy's coaching ability without a fair number of stars around; saw too much finger-waving early on in his Boston tenure. Should be a massive upgrade over Vinny in LA, but I'm not pencilling in the Clips for a transformation.
An NBA head coach is the most dispensible coach in sports, period. They are no more than figureheads and/or scapegoats. I think that whole league is a joke anymore.
Apologies to the OP, wasn't trying to derail your thread. Just going crazy waiting for August 31st!