Some of the carry out places I frequent have tip jars, and the credit card receipt has a line to write in a tip. I always feel awkward when the guy at the register looks at my receipt and I didn't tip. But I don't see why I should be tipping - I walked my ass over to pick up my own food. Any work they did should be included in the price of my order, no?
OT - Do you tip at carry out places?
when is the last time that restaurant gave you a handout? Tips have gotten so out of hand these days it's ridiculous.
If it's a restaurant that I order take out from but could sit down and a server was the one to put it together I usually leave a dollar on my card. Thinking is they would be working on their tables if it wasn't for me.
It it's only take out/fast food the only time I tip is when I pay cash and don't feel like carrying around whatever coins I get as change.
I agree, I used to work at a restaurant and the carry out workers do their fair share of work to put the order together so I always tip them. But if I go pickup a pizza from Hungry Howies or something I usually do not.
...with anything Perry says.
Depends on the restaurant. I know at Chili's and Buffalo Wild Wings, the takeaway servers get min. wage so I don't tip. At the Outback I work at, they get paid $2.63 an hour, just like regular servers and depend on tips. Nothing big, $2-3 dollars will do.
To eat at a restaurant it should be required that you worked at one for a year so you learn that your ranch isn't that f-ing important. Yes I did steal that from Daniel Tosh.
In a non-Waiting position? Are they watching tables too? Because if not, they're hostesses, not servers. And your Outback sounds like it's doing something illegal.
The rules are different for employees who receive a significant portion of their income through tips, not just servers.
The Federal minimum wage is something like $2.13 for tipped employees. In Michigan, I think it's $2.65. However, if tips + wages don't exceed actual minimum wage, the employer has to make up the difference.
But how can a take out person not working the bar or something be considered getting a significant amount of their income from tips? We just had a whole thread of non-tipping for take out people, and if it was a thread of "do you tip the hostess?" I bet it would be even worse. Sounds like an excuse not to call it what it really is...a minimum wage job. Either through generous tips or employer make-up.
Because you work carry-out in shifts.
Servers end up doing carry-out shifts. Some places hire hosts that don't serve, ever.
It depends entirely on the restaurant. There's no real way to tell how practices work from restaurant.
Would you rather err on the safe side or not? Most of the people I worked with in food service live check to check (edit: myself included - I worked two jobs in food service + midnights at meijer during a semester at U-M as a full-time student). For them, a bad day at work = an overdraft fee, or worse.
If you're going out to eat, you can afford to tip.
If you're not going to tip, go home and cook.
Because I can afford to eat out doesn't mean I can afford to pay a guys employees for him. I pity anyone who can't make ends meet but I don't go around giving money to all of them. I would like to know when it became incumbent upon the consumers to pay the wages of the employees? We do that by paying the bills at the end of whatever it is we are doing, why should we HAVE to give a tip as well?
The only ones making out good in all this is the employers.
I say you ask Mr. Pink what he thinks about this.
Tipping automatically is for the birds. I don't tip because society says I have to.
I typically charge the cost of the carryout and often drop a dollar or two in the tip jar. It doesn't impact me very much and might help someone else.
If I spend say 5.53 and get 47 cents in change at a carry out place I'll usually just drop the change in the jar. If I'm using my card I'm probably not going to tip, but I do make it a point to remember if someone was extremely courteous so that if I ever do spend cash there I'd end up tipping. This means I will never leave a tip at Blimpie Burger.
If you're going to neg me, at least say why. I mean I understand that Blimpie Burger prides itself in its joking rude act or whatever, but when they don't let old ladies with canes lean on a counter or sit down it goes from jest to downright douchebaggery.
It's Blimpy Burger the attitude is part of the experience that makes Blimpy the greatest burger joint in the word, if you don't appreciate it don't eat there.
Didn't say I wouldn't eat there, just said I wouldn't tip there. I understand the whole, lets have attitude to stand out from the crowd stuff, but when you tell elderly disabled people they aren't allowed to lean or sit somewhere it becomes indecent. If I'm going to tip someone to abuse me, it's going to be a hooker.
Today is your two year MGoBirthday... you should know better than to complain about a neg
I've read MGoBlog for a long time, I really didn't start posting until I got unbelievably bored at work one day and decided I would start posting on the topics I read. Oh and I guess your MGoBirthday is tomorrow, so happy 2 years in advance haha.
Haha thanks brotha
I didn't neg you, but one little note - don't tip pennies. No one wants those. In your hypothetical, drop 45 cents in and keep the pennies or put them in a penny jar.
I ususally do if it's a place that I eat at a lot, otherwise no.
Negging by people without the stones to say why is endemic around here. I'd guess it's because you dared utter a comment that was critical of Blimpie, and thou shalt not criticize Blimpie.
If I neg i usually say why, unless it's pretty self explanatory (e.g. a Troll.) I realize I'll probably get negged for this. It's okay, I'll eventually get to 100,000 and get my date with Brian.
Hahaa. I got negged after I posted the Bob Probert has died thread. I posted some video off of youtube of some of his fights and someone negged that part instead of the thread so I couldn't see who did it. Its pretty comical when you negged for posting something about someone who just died.
Failure to use the reply button.
And Wendys remains superior in every way.
And I dont even like Wendys.
I am glad that there is someone else out their who hates Blimpie. Stay strong brother.
You mean you didn't get paid by your employer to cook the meal? Man, you should fined a new job, or better yet can you draft in Autocad or Revit?
The place where I work the cooks get paid pretty damn well. And when you guys (cooks) screw up food, it's the servers tips that get reduced. Even though they had nothing to do w/ you (the cooks) grilling someones steak well when they wanted it medium. Maybe the cooks should then give the servers money out of their pocket when they screw up food that leaves the window and gets sent back?
Quite possible my friend. Never said the people who ran the place I worked at were the smartest lol.
What do you consider paid well? From what I've experienced in NYC, cooks make between $10-$15 an hour, and the high end is at restaurants like Le Bernardin. Maybe my values are screwed up, but in no way is that paid well. Especially when servers at those restaurants can pull in tips from tables with an average check north of $100.
I can't speak for your experiences, but I can for mine.
I work at a ritzy place in the summer, highest end in my area (which doesn't have many..) as a server. I get 2.65 an hour. The chefs get 15.50 an hour.
There are many complications from little nitpicky stuff in orders there. When a chef misses one of those, who deals with the customer?
Odds are good you're making a pretty decent wage to be preparing what you are. We don't. Odds are unless you're waiter/tress is a complete ass/bitch, you're getting a 5-10 dollar tip from each one in the joint.
I think you're either working at the wrong place or working with some shit wait staff
If it's a regular restaurant, always. The waiters working at the bar/counter are expecting tips as part of their wages. For fast food-type places, it's more optional.
if she's cute, i'll tip
The only thing that gets me to tip on a carry out order is if the girl is cute !
Here's my logic for tipping. I understand that they get paid less than $3/hour, but no one needs to be getting paid $30+/hour for waiting tables. You tip to ensure good service, you don't tip for anything else. That includes making sure your drink never runs out, getting your food quickly, making sure your drinks are strong, etc. It doesn't include writing down your order and placing it in a bag.
I generally start with 20% and go from there. If it is a small bill, I'll add $1. If it's a large bill and the tip is already $10, I'll take off $1, because they usually have 3 other tables tipping as well. even if they don't $9 plus the minimum wage is about what a waiter should be making.
but you need to remember (and it's something most people don't know)...a server tips out..usually three other people at the end of the night. It varies place to place..but from my experience..we tipped out a busser, food runner, and bartender. Each person gets 10% of our sales. (which is b.s. the bartender should be tipped out on alcohol sales, but that's another story).
So if at the end of my night my sales are $551 I was expected to tip each of the three $6. If it's $549 I tipped each person $5.
Regardless you're taking out 15-18 dollars from what you make. Just something to remember when you're going out and tipping.
...giving me a negative for that post. Makes sense.
We seem to have some real tightwads around here.
10% of $550 is $55, a bit more than $5/$6 depending on your rounding.
good call. Definitely overlooked that mistake. Didn't mean 10%, but the point remains the same. People still need to understand that servers don't keep 100% of their tips.
so by your logic if they did amazing and most compaines have 3 table sections at 20% of 500 bucks is??? 100 bucks now that 100 bucks is spilt up between a busser, food runner, bartender, cooks so now the sever walks with 70 in 8 hours so your right they didnt make 30 bucks an hour they made way less. you guys are so dumb.
Is about $9 an hour (almost), plus the minimum wage. Which is what he said.
I mean, if it's so unfair, you could pay them more, and cut into your profits...or charge more, and see if people take their business elsewhere.
Waiters actually normally get paid below minimum wage, with the expectation that tips will cover the difference.
I was so into seeing the flaw in the poster's math analysis, I missed the flaw in the logic of the OP (in this branch).
First of all, I'm talking about tipping 20% and only taking off $1 when the tip exceeds $10, so the bill was >$50. If they only get 10 tables in a 3-table section over 8 hours, that sounds like a personal problem to me.
Second, I don't care how they have to split it out. That's part of the job and they accept it when they take on the work.
Third, almost $9/hour + $2/hour is about the max of what I feel they should be making.
Fourth, the 20% is a general purpose baseline. If the service is beyond horrible (mess up orders, forget about us, etc) I'll use 15% as the baseline. If we have a 8+ people or a special order, then I might jump to 25%.
Fifth, if their tips and hourly wage do not surpass the minimum wage ($7ish, whatever it is now), the employer is responsible for paying the difference so that the waitress makes minimum wage. So, even if they provide the worst service and no one tips them, they are making $7-8/hour until they get fired.
I'm italian....so i have to tip....everybody.....