OT: Do you believe in UFOs?

Submitted by sheepdog on

Maybe the better question - do you beleive in otherworld beings? Aliens? Are we being spied on? Are some "people" reptilian? Are you reptilian?

My stance? I don't really know, but there is too much evidence for it to be a flat out "no."

Note: This is meant to be a slow July, no football, WAY OT, fun discussion.  So Neg me, Pos me, post a GIF, whatever.

Friday Friendly Discusion... GO.

Tuebor

July 17th, 2015 at 11:37 AM ^

Is there life out there?  Almost certainly there is.

 

Do we stand a chance of finding it in the incomprehensible vastness that is our universe?  Almost certainly we don't.

 

WestSider

July 17th, 2015 at 11:41 AM ^

all you have to do is a few hours of research and observe the in-person, direct testimony of hundreds of witnesses that are highly educated, well achieved, military and governmental individuals of high status. Astronauts, four star Generals, ministers of Defense, missile silo operators, heads of states, Navy personnel, Air Force personnel, Marines, Boeing, CIA, police, radar operators, NASA's own video feeds, Northrup-Grumman, past Presidents, veteran pilots, the Vatican, Raytheon, countless declassified documents,  the list is simply endless. We put people on death row with far less evidence. I believe within my children's life times, they will see disclosure finally take place.

pdxwolve

July 17th, 2015 at 11:35 AM ^

that with a chupacabra story this week and now a discussion about UFOs, that we have finally reached the end of the off season. 47 days...

white_pony_rocks

July 17th, 2015 at 11:37 AM ^

yeah, but I don't believe aliens have ever visited us, not do I think they ever will. In fact, I'm going to say no intelligent civilization in the universe has ever met with another intelligent life form. I think that a civilizations progress will stop once their planet's finite resources have been exhausted and that no civilization has gotten to the point where interstellar space travel was a possibility before their resources ran out

bronxblue

July 17th, 2015 at 11:42 AM ^

There is absolutely other intelligent life out in the universe. The chances of it having visited Earth, though, is probably quite a bit smaller.

SwitchbladeSam

July 17th, 2015 at 11:49 AM ^

If you believe in God and creation, why would he create all of these planets and only put life on one? If you don't believe in creation, how likely is it that with that many habitable planets that life only formed on one? I definitely believe there is other intellignt life out there, but I don't think it's anything we'll find during my lifetime. 

 

We are the middle children of history.  Born too late to explore the earth and born to soon to explore the universe.  Atleast we can explore the internet. 

 

http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/152573-astronomers-estimate-100-bill…

 

And yes, we are being spyed on.  Big brother is staring at you right now through your webcam. 

/puts tinfoil hat on

Moe

July 17th, 2015 at 11:52 AM ^

Yes, there is some intelligent life forms out there, but no I don't think they have visited Earth.  On the subject of myths, urban legends, etc, I really have a hard time believing in the Loch Ness Monster, Bigfoot, and other urban legends.  Today, nearly everyone has a device in their pocket to take photo and video, and we still only have pictures of these creatures from 30 years ago.  

Zarniwoop

July 17th, 2015 at 12:03 PM ^

I want to believe. Because I'm bored and that would be very exciting.

But, no, I don't think so.

I find it likely that life or pre-life coalitions of compounds are common.

I find it likely that intelligent life is incredibly rare.

Try this: http://www.activemind.com/Mysterious/topics/seti/drake_equation.html

What values do you use and what result do you get?

 

N = N* fp ne fl fi fc fL

 

   8.25 = 100 billion * .5 * .33 * .005 * .01 * 1 * 1/100,000

 

I get 8.25 communicating civilizations active in the galaxy at any one time. However, I think n-sube (the number of planets that can support life per star) should be MUCH lower, so I'd actually get less than 1.

I guess we don't exist.

That said, I personally think its extremely unlikely that this planet is unique in the galaxy (let alone the universe).

HateSparty

July 17th, 2015 at 12:04 PM ^

I have never seen this calculation. It is interesting. I have always felt that in the vastness of outer space, it has to be possible. This questions that. I also think with the other breaches of governmental security, the UFO file would have to be susceptible. Someone go find it!



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WolverineRage

July 17th, 2015 at 1:01 PM ^

I was about to post this equation but you beat me to it.  I took an Astronomy class my last semester and the professor talked about this in the last week and his comment was that this equation is sort of arbitrary because the last 4 constants are pretty much based on how the user "feels" about the topic.  That being said, I agree that based on the evidence of planets with liquid water, which is one of the big items for life based on what we know, it stands to reason that we are not alone in the universe but its unlikely that we've been visited.

Zarniwoop

July 17th, 2015 at 1:33 PM ^

Its entirely arbitrary.

Dr. Drake was very clear in stating that this equation was the means for starting a discussion and not intended for sceintific use.

I agree with you and Pinky 100 percent.

BUT, this is a fascinating conversation starter.

If life does begin, how often does it become intelligent life? Why do you think so?  Etc..

Just fascinating stuff.

MeanJoe07

July 17th, 2015 at 12:03 PM ^

I've been abducted twice.  It wasn't that bad.

 

(Walks over to the corner of a dark room.  Assumes fetal postion.  Sucks thumb. Cries softly)