If Bell goes in addition they will have a very hard time on offense next year.
well that's just, like, your opinion, man
If Bell goes in addition they will have a very hard time on offense next year.
Yeah but I think Maxwell stays. Faster, more athletic version of Cousins. They'll be fine.
Don't forget that they recruit intergalacticly.
Don't forget, he has a stronger arm to.
Throw a football. Get your mind out of the gutter.
Two words: to =/= too
I was 50/50 on which one it was.
Now I know if I ever need a paper edited, forget microsoft words grammar check, just post it on the Mgoblog.
when someone truly doesn't know vs. when someone just mistypes.
Now we all get to MGoPointAndLaugh
Isn't Joe Boisture done with his redshirt decade soon?
to NFL starter level.
Maybe they will also declare early for the NFL draft...just like Sims is doing
If Bell leaves, and it seems like he probably will, that offense will be putrid next year. They were a ranked around 109 this year and now they're losing their top two offensive threats. Rough.
Eh, according to the Mathlete's data (which predicted the huge production drop this year) they should've OK. Have most of the receiving yards back as well as all passing yards.
But OTOH, their whole offense was centered around Bell and the threat he posed to keep defenses honest. If their ground game doesn't offer that kind of threat next year, their passing game is going to have to take a big leap forward for the offense to improve.
...next years losses in skill players may equal this years offensive line injuries. Still, I think we all agree that we won't be seeing Pac12 offensive numbers out of Sparty.
Not surprising at all. He's really good and has all the measurables. Problems with production were not a result of his natural ability as with the rest if the MSU offense.
He will have so much money to buy laptops once he's drafted.
Because the classics never go out of style.
Good. That guy was tough to cover in the open field.
What other RBs do they have? Nick Hill? The fact that Bell was only one to take meaningful snaps at RB should worry you if you're an MSU fan.
Assuming Bell goes pro, Nick Hill will be MSU's leading returning rusher, with 48 yards on 21 carries.
Nick hill is the only other RB that actually got snaps that i saw and if he is the only returner that doesn't bode well.. He is MSU's V. Smith, yet not nearly as versatile. That freshman "kings" or w/e was supposed to have incredible speed, but couldn't crack any meaningful playing time in a bad offense
Is Kings a RB? I thought he was supposed to be the new Keyshawn Martin
Kings is a WR.
He is MSU's V. Smith, yet not nearly as versatile
This is the anti-Fred Jackson quote of the year. I do also realize that the year is technically only a few days old.
I dont think Nick Hill will ever start for MSU. Most think Nick Tompkins is the guy.
for a few seconds.
well I'm sure Mork will just dip into his elite intergalactic recruiting and find a solid replacement.
According to this article Bell is meeting with NFL agents and leaving. He can't really help his draft stock much, and with Spartans losing a couple starting interior linemen and looking at another rough year, why would he stay?
NFL running backs are playing on borrowed time. Take the extra year.
Gholston filed paperwork as well, but he regressed this year so I'm not sure he'll get any kind of response he would like.
I bet Gholston will leave anyway. He strikes me as a guy looking to cash in. He made just enough plays this season to warrant getting drafted somewhere.
Plus doesn't he have a kid? Needs to support the new family.
Sparty or not dude was a beast. For Michigan sakes glad to see him upgrade.
They will be okay. They will just reload. No biggie. /s
I think it is safe to say MSU's blip of success is done. They will go back to mediocrity.
7-6 season with their "best team in years".. They're already there.
Making fun of State's record doesn't seem right considering we finished 8-5 and lost to all of our rivals.
and I would still make fun of them. They cant help it, they were born that way.
The whole "MSU isn't a rival" bit is lame. You can argue about them being the #2 or #3 rivalry game, OK, but to say it isn't a rivalry is absurd. Ask the players on the team how they felt about getting Paul Bunyan back.
And yeah, we're entitled to poke fun at them, because we won the game this year - so we have bragging rights.
We lost to the AP's #1, #2, and #3 teams, plus a fourth top-10 team. And 3 of the 4 losses were by 5 or 6 points, i.e., came down to the last minute. So, I have no problem making fun of Sparty's miserable record, given that they thought they'd contend for the Leaders er Legends er Lewan Division championship and ended up battling Minnesota for a bowl game.
Connor Cook the next Andrew Maxwell
Mad max is dope.
Happy to see him go, thought he should have stayed. Had a lot of injuries and still looked overweight to me. Could still be a solid blocker and have just as good hands if he dropped about 15 pounds to improve his speed, especially off the line, and became a much better pass catching threat. As is, he's a huge body that makes him difficult to cover, but he doesn't get much seperation. As for other MSU players, Bell should go, Gholston should stay (because he has no technique still).
As for OSU, I think the only player that should leave early and did is Hankins. Spence from Illinois also made the correct call to enter the draft. I think it's best for Lewan to probably leave now unfortunetely. Other than that the B1G was really young and I don't see anyone else from the conference that should leave early (though I thought Nix from ND should have left, as his draft stock is high right now). There are a few players that I think are good enough to be NFL players next year, but will really improve their draft stock significantly by staying a year.
Don't blame him. Can't afford laptops as a student athlete.
Burbridge is their lone bright spot is Bell leaves, the kid is a great receiver. Just got a case of the dropsies every now and then
Dion Sims accounted for 15% of the Spartans' receptions and 18% of their passing yards with 2 of the 13 passing TDs, so it might be something for which they could conceivably compensate in that regard if no one else left. "Might" being the operative word.
If Le'Veon Bell left, that's 77% of their carries from this season, as well as 92% of their rushing yards and all but one rushing TD from this season out the door. If that happens, Maxwell may very well have to become the best QB ever to live to compensate for that, forget how much the WRs would need to step up in the potential absence of RB talent.
Sims has a lot of ability though. He's surprisingly fast for his size and (unlike their WRs) has good hands. He was off to a great start this year before he injured his ankle midseason. After he got hurt, Maxwell's passing numbers dropped like a rock.
He's a guy who, if healthy, could have been a major part of their offense in 2013. I was more worried about facing him than any of their WRs.
and potentially Bell will start to show how far MSU recruiting has fallen since Hoke started. Especially offensively. Marky Mark needs to expand recruiting past the international or universal into another dimension
We will absolutely shut them down with Mattison if Bell leaves. They got 10 on us this year. I'm not sure they get 3 on us without Bell and Sims.
Did Sims even play against us this year?
Also, SIms may be gone, but Burbridge will be a year older and a year better. He will cause problems.
Burbridge is good, but we should have corners able to cover him. The thing about an athletic TE like Sims (and Funchess for that matter) is that it's hard to find a LB or S with the combination of size and speed to cover him.
Now hopefully Bell and Gholston go. Then they'll be hurting on both sides. And doesn't Dennard graduate?
Nope, Johnny Adams does.
He wasca big target for them. I hope Bell and others leave early too! I want them to suck for years to come!
what are the chances MSU misses a bowl game next year assuming bell, sims, and gholson are gone?
They have some promising young receivers and a QB coming back as a 2nd year starter. Rushing game might be awful, but passing game may be fine
They return both Aaron Burbridge and DeAnthony Arnett at WR, the #9 and #8 wide receivers in their respective classes, according to Scout, so I agree we shouldn't be disparaging their wideouts.
How much did Arnett play this year? I don't remember hearing his name at all.
3 catches, 69 yards and 1 rush for 4 yards
Have you seen Maxwell play?
but we played Alabama, ND, Ohio, South Carolina, and Nebraska all away from home when they just had to play ND and Ohio and both games were home games.
Their QB has had 4 years to improve and he hasn't. Plus Cook looked abyssmal in the Spring Game and had pretty bad stats in the TCU game.
Frankly, I think he is their guy next year.
Cook didn't look solid. He was like 4/11 passing and threw a pass about 5 feet over a receivers head who was open on a slant route. MSU won because of Bell and TCU's turnover.
Maxwell wouldn't scramble for a 1st down on the 90 yard TD drive, and Maxwell wouldn't have gotten 2 quick 1st downs in the game winning drive. Cook looked solid despite his stats (Which included a couple dropped balls)
On that 90 yard scoring drive, he had fewer passing yards than Le'Veon Bell and Bell also rushed it 8 out of 14 plays. He averaged under 5 yards per attempt, had 47 yards passing on the game, and had a completion percentage south of 50%. Just because he looked better than Maxwell doesn't mean he looked solid. He looked slightly less shitty than your shitty starting QB.
We'll see. It will be easy if all the opponent has to do is force him to pass and keep him from running.
I wish him the best, but that still doesn't negate fact that Tommy Vento is still there. That motherfucker keeps me up at night.
Oh don't worry. Next year is definitely their year for the rose bowl...
Amazingly I heard the exact same thing last year about bringing back all their lineman except 1 (who just happened to be their best lineman) and their defense. The fact that the offense looked as shitty in the final week of the season as it did in the 1st means their offense didn't progress at all. It actually might have gotten worse. Add to that the fact that they benched their starting QB in the bowl game and will probably lose their only running back to carry the ball this year along with their best receiving threat and I have no idea why you think they will be anywhere near good. They had an amazing defense this year and still managed to lose to a horrible Iowa team....next year, with a worse offense, I see a lot of the same. They will be lucky to be bowl eligible next year.
They lose their starting NT (Anthony Rashad White), their best CB (Johnny Adams), a captain/starting linebacker (Chris Norman), backup DT (Tyler Hoover), and starting interior linemen (Ethan Ruhland, Chris McDonald). They also lose Fou Fonoto, who was injured when they played Michigan. That's not to mention potential early departures like William Gholston and Le'Veon Bell.
I have to assume that a Mark Dantonio-coached team will have a solid defense, but they're losing a few good players.
There's still time for Narduzzi to leave.
That's pretty much how I see it. Much like this season, they have potential and return most of a good defense. If they blow it and have another 6 win year I think their time in the sun is over, but they have some talent coming back/in next year and a very easy schedule so I will wait one more year and see what happens before shouting it from the rooftops.
With Hoke, Brian Kelly, and Urb recruiting Sparty is not going to get anyone except legacies and players that those 3 teams pass on.
They'll be going head to head with Cincinnati for Ohio players.